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Canon
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How to smoke DMT?
#23442927 - 07/15/16 04:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi!
How can one smoke DMT? What do you need for that? Can you use RC-Chemicals for that?
Greets
Edited by Canon (07/15/16 04:59 AM)
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Re: How to smoke DMT? [Re: Canon]
#23442957 - 07/15/16 05:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Use rc chemicals for what? Dmt is usually vaporized in a glass bubble (meth pipe) or something similar. It can also be smoked on weed or another herb of your liking out of a regular pipe, but this method uses much more product because the flame will destroy your shit. When smoking with direct flame you want to cherry your herb using as little direct flame contact as possible to start the cherry. Still wasteful imo
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Thank You!
But what which plants do you need for that? I read quite often that you need a MAO plant in addition.
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Re: How to smoke DMT? (moved) [Re: Canon]
#23442988 - 07/15/16 05:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from The Ethnobotanical Garden.
Reason: Best asked here
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Re: How to smoke DMT? [Re: Canon]
#23442992 - 07/15/16 05:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not to smoke dmt, no. If you were to eat it you would want to take it with an maoi
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Re: How to smoke DMT? [Re: Canon]
#23442996 - 07/15/16 06:01 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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An MAOI is needed in combination with DMT if you want it to be orally active, which is a different trip than smoking pure DMT. Ayahuasca for example is typically the viridis plant which has the DMT, boiled with the Banisteriopsis Caapi vine, which has the MAOI, which will allow the DMT in the viridis to be orally active in a few ounces of liquid after ingesting them together. This lasts for about 5 hours.
For extracting pure DMT which you smoke, which only lasts 5-10 minutes but is incredibly intense, you just need either powdered Mimosa Hostilis root bark, or Acacia Confusa root bark, which you can buy online.
Root bark, water, caustic soda, and Naptha or Ronsonol lighter fluid (yellow bottle ronsonol), and that's it.
You mix this, then you mix that, then warm up this, then shake that, then siphon off this, then you freeze that, then you pour off this, then you dry that, then you scrape up this, and voila!!!
This can all be done in 24 hours, then you close up shop. Some people get really technical, and try many different ways, and get really detailed and use a stove-top, but it doesn't need to be technical and confusing, and you can use a warm water bath in your sink to heat the mixture instead of using a stove. You really ONLY need a glass jar, a pyrex dish, a turkey baster, and the 4 ingredients listed above. Use safety goggles, because if caustic soda gets in your eye, it WILL blind you.
These simple instructions are everywhere, start digging....
Have fun and be safe!!
Edited by wakeINpeople (07/15/16 06:32 AM)
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Cybs A/B tek - i believe on DMTnexus is a simple and very efficient method of extraction using easy to obtain chemicals, and of course Mimosa hostilis or Acacia confusa bark, the latter being cheaper and easier to obtain, and I get higher yields with the AC
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Thank you very much! Much appreciated!
Are there any dangers during the extracting?
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Re: How to smoke DMT? [Re: Canon]
#23443150 - 07/15/16 07:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not really if yu follow the tek right, you're fucking with lye and a solvent such as naptha, you don't want to get it on your skin or eyes obviously, some steps produce a lot of build up pressure so if you don't release pressure your shot might blow. I've had a cap of a glass bottle pop off. Then there's legal trouble. Google 'cybs ab tek'
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Re: How to smoke DMT? [Re: Canon]
#23443183 - 07/15/16 08:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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In the shroomery, you dont smoke dmt, dmt smokes you.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: How to smoke DMT? [Re: Canon]
#23444155 - 07/15/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Cybs is popular and has a great rep. I've never tried his tek or used salt though.
This was the guy I learned from in the video below.... I saw this mans video 4 years ago, and the 2 times I've ever done an extraction years ago, I did it this way. I used the same exact ingredient ratios, except I doubled or tripled up the quantities, and used 3 bigger jars because I wanted to get rid of all the mimosa and get everything cleaned up asap. I did exactly what he did, except I used a warm water bath instead of a hotplate and stir bar, and I didn't do the extra stuff he's doing after the 13:00 mark. The yellow DMT he scrapes up at 13:00 is not what mine looked like. Mine was pure white crystals, it worked great. Got around 1% yield.
For the hot water bath, I simply put a big pot in the sink, put the jars in the pot (it's easier if the jar tops are slightly taller than the pot so you don't have to fish the jars out of the water ever time you shake and vent), and then I filled the pot with hot water, then when the pot is full and spilling over, I lowered the faucet pressure down to a slow steady stream into the pot, so the pot stays full and slowly spills over while still being replaced with hot water. In about an hour, the solution in the jars will be pretty warm, then you can start the process of lightly (so you don't create emulsion bubbles) rolling/shaking/venting, then put jar back in the pot of water while the naphtha separates. Do this 3-4 times, then siphon out the naphtha and freeze. I had a gas stove and didn't want flames anywhere near my setup, that's why I used the warm bath. I've never used naphtha, only crystal clear Ronsonol lighter fluid in the yellow bottles. Whatever you use, make sure it's clear, and pour a little on a plate and let it evaporate to make sure it leaves nothing behind on the plate.
Another couple interesting tips I figured out through trial and error....
Roll and shake lightly, but if your naphtha is fully separating extremely quickly after shaking...like in 1-2 minutes, then your shaking too light and it's not mixing fully or pulling out the dmt. The naphtha should take anywhere from 15-60 minutes to fully separate. Some people say 1-2 days to let separate, but this was not the case for me ever.
And also, after freezing and slowly pouring off the naphtha and letting your pyrex dry, the crystals will sometimes but not always, be sitting on top of a thin layer of clear sticky goo you can feel with your finger. The goo is actually yellow but looks clear when spread out. A lot of people will scrape everything up with a lot of pressure not knowing there is goo there, and end up with a ball of yellow goo and crystals. I don't know why this sometimes happens, but I found the best way in this case is to LIGHTLY rest a SINGLE-EDGED razor blade in your fingers while it's angled nearly parallel with the pyrex, flat edge up, beveled edge down, while you slide it sideways on top of the goo while putting almost no down-pressure on the razor with your thumb. The only part of the razor that should be touching the plate while you slide is the BEND in the beveled edge, so that the edge of the razor is just slightly above the goo, but low enough to get the crystals off. You will lose a very slight bit of crystals which will stick to the goo this way, but it's better than a goo ball.
Those 2 extractions I did years ago provided me and some friends with awesome adventures with other beings, and I haven't felt the desire to smoke it since, but I'm looking forward to the next time I do....
Edited by wakeINpeople (07/15/16 03:28 PM)
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I think the salt is in an amended version mostly geared towards ACRB, which is what I use and it's to defat the product. I guess ACRB can have a fatty/oily,not so clean end result if you don't defat.
I always deft before basifying and come up with a clean end result.
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Yeah, my first time I used powdered purple mimosa, which worked great and dried clean. The second time I used finely shredded acacia which was very hard and woody before I powdered it in a vitamix, not fibrous and softer like root bark should be, and the yield wasn't near what I got with mimosa, and it produced that goo. I was convinced that the acacia I got was either trunk bark, or a mix of trunk and root bark.
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If I ever do this again in the future, I'm going to order whole pieces of root bark, so I can see the spiral curls and know that it's legit. Then I'll just bash it up like they do to the caapi vines for ayahuasca, then chop it up, then powder it myself. Peace of mind.
There are too many scammers out there. That's one of the reasons why I never did anymore extractions after those 2. The mimosa guy got raided and closed up shop soon after I got my order, then the whole mimosa crackdown happened, then after being convinced I got scammed with acacia trunk bark, I didn't feel like going through it again. Plus, we had plenty of awesome trips with what I did get from those extractions, so the immediate urge to keep doing more just wasn't there.
Within the next 2 years I plan on giving it another shot though....
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AC normally produces a quite a bit of a bigger yield usually than MH, and if you defat it you can come out with white crystals - first xtract if youre careful
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Damn, I'll remember that. I never tried a defat on the acacia because the previous mimosa worked so clean and well, I assumed the acacia would also. I also didn't know that the salt was to defat acacia. Interesting. I haven't looked into any of this in the last few years after giving up after that bad acacia extraction. When I powdered that hard woody acacia I got, the shit looked straight brown with a slight hint of redness. It wasn't a nice red like I see in some pictures.
Do you get finely powdered red acacia usually, or do you powder it yourself?
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