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Re: Gym Advice needed [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #23455085 - 07/19/16 06:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Ahab McBathsalts said:
The only supplement you need is protein powder. I like pre-workout too but it isn't necessary.



True not absolutely needed but I feel sometimes its the big elephant in the room when talking performance and lifting while in the gym. Creatine alone helped me shave off ten pounds and put definition to my overall look. I have stopped the creatine though because it gives me gas and the hcl just makes me need to pee a lot. lol.....GOt tired of it and switched to others.

Most protein powders that are available these days are loaded with these compounds bcaa/glutamine etc. For me there is no denying the effectiveness of pre workout supplements and compounds that maintain muscle mass. I work in a business that requires lifting ,pushing,pullling and walking every single day upto 8-12 miles a day . Plus hitting the gym and workouts at home.  So I'm always looking to preserve muscle mass and to catch that extra boost that not only gives extra energy but keeps the muscle from failing with extra reps. Just started building my own pre workouts since its way cheaper just to buy in bulk. I'm such a drug nerd I already have all the stuff I need to weigh and consume.


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Re: Gym Advice needed [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #23456608 - 07/19/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Unless you are at an extremely elite level, most of the supplements are just a waste of money. The supplement industry is full of photoshop, doctored and paid reviews and products made in China that don't contain what they say on the label.

If spending the money makes you feel good then keep on doing what works.


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Re: Gym Advice needed [Re: Ahab McBathsalts] * 1
    #23459676 - 07/20/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

- bcaas have more than enough studies to prove that supplementation is advantageous

- creatine, one of the most widely studied supplements, has very tangible and real results and more than enough good science and studies to back it

- protein is a no brainer.  And the average male, depending on weight of course, should be having at LEAST 160g a day.  While of course not impossible, That's pretty tough to reach that target on your average day without supplementation.

-fish oil and other omegas have proven to help joints and other tissues

...the list can go on


While of course marketing is always full of as much hot air as possible, supplements are beneficial to anyone who is putting in hard work at the gym.  The trick is, to find out what works best for you, source a quality vendor and do your research. 

For myself personally, protein and creatine are a must. 

I think my power stack multi vitamin helped a little, recovery wise, but it was neglible.  When I can afford it, I take it.  When I can't, I don't notice a huge difference.


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Re: Gym Advice needed [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23462475 - 07/21/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:
I'll hook you up later man, just finished night shift, need to sleep. In the meantime I'm sure a few others will chip in, and in order to make sure the advice works for you, tell us the following:

1. Roughly how old you are
2. Your bodyweight/bodytype (ecto/endo/meso - google)/rough bodyfat %
3. What your goals are and how much time per week you can spare for the gym

I'll tell you the most important piece of the puzzle now though; most of the work to achieve occurs out of the gym and not in it. 85% of the battle alone is diet.

Welcome along by the way.





Good call JSB. This is the best advice to start with and he is ripped so I can vouch he knows what he is talking about. Once you have your diet properly aligned your body should be burning fat for energy and naturally producing hormones that will exponentially increase your gains. This is essential. I suggest cutting grains out of your diet. JSB is like me. We eat a lot of meat. Blue steaks on the reg.

My 2 cents and just my opinion for getting bigger:

1) I strongly believe in the gym you HAVE to be doing heavy dead lifts once a week.

2) Start with just basic workouts. Then add more to it as you go. Don't do too many exercises too fast so you can heal. It's all about consistency so you don't want to be skipping workouts because you are sore. Start with heavy natural motions.

Ex: Dead lift/Rows/Pull Ups
or
Ex: Bench/Bar Dip/Cables

3) Me personally I only do sprints on the track once a week as well as hard swimming laps once a week for cardio (2 days a week). It helps my core get stronger and I'm finished faster.

4) Listen to your body. If something hurts or feels awkward and counter productive the try an alternative. I say this because I tore my Pectoralis Major Tendon out of my arm bone benching 350. I thought no pain no gain! Some times it means stop you idiot. Took 5 years to get my body back in order.


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Re: Gym Advice needed [Re: Masked] * 1
    #23463584 - 07/21/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That is good advice masked, I just fell in love with this vendor that has everything in pure form. They actually teach me just from researching their products. When I tried creatine it was in pill form. I would  like to try a pure powder creatine monohydrate before I just x it out forever because it was very effective. Almost too effective !!!lol  I like adding arginine supps too because they rock all the way around.


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