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Re: Exactly how effective IS a flowhood? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23443895 - 07/15/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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If a flow hood gives you better posture, movement, better on your back. Etc...

Then you're just a retard at building a SAB. Make the SAB big enough with arm holes big and wide enough that it's no different than working in front of a hood....

I've never done pour agar in anything but my still air box



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I sit in a chair while I work my SAB, took the back out of the equation.


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Re: Exactly how effective IS a flowhood? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23443964 - 07/15/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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If a flow hood gives you better posture, movement, better on your back. Etc...

Then you're just a retard at building a SAB. Make the SAB big enough with arm holes big and wide enough that it's no different than working in front of a hood....

I've never done pour agar in anything but my still air box




There is absolutely every difference in the world comfort wise working in front of a hood.
An SAB is great, does the job perfectly, but once you learn how to work in front of a hood and can triple your work load in the time, you will never use an SAB unless your cleaning up mold on plates, and in that case like superlemonhaze said isn't that often or even worth it to fuck with those plates. I havn't pulled out my SAB for a year, and I have it in my lab just in case, but have never needed it since building the hood.
One thing about a flowhood, you can leave SOOOOO many bullshit "teks" and modded lids and what not behind and just do everything with regular procedures which in the end makes life way easier. But not everybody has the space or funds for one, that's why we have SABs and sterile teks, it's the only alternative to a flowhood.


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Re: Exactly how effective IS a flowhood? [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23443994 - 07/15/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You're talking to a guy who uses a FH A LOT with his work. He's just saying that sabs are actually really fuckin easy if you do them right. You actually have to be more sterile in front of a hood. Sabs since the air is still, as long as nothing goes over the open media, you don't need anything else. I don't use gloves, alcohol, strange modded teks, or anything really. No time to prep either. Just spray the walls and go to town.

With a big enough sab you can do just as much work as a FH too. Back in my big days I would be doing 100 jars a week, never once did I feel the need for a FH. Until I make an edible farm, I have no need for FH or AAs. BL summed it up nicely.


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Re: Exactly how effective IS a flowhood? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23443997 - 07/15/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I can honestly say, out of the last 100 jars that I've done (all in my SAB), 2 got mold and 1 was really bacterial. I'm definitely okay with that.

But I will invest in a flow hood in the future if I get the chance.


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Re: Exactly how effective IS a flowhood? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23444006 - 07/15/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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You're talking to a guy who uses a FH A LOT with his work. He's just saying that sabs are actually really fuckin easy if you do them right. You actually have to be more sterile in front of a hood. Sabs since the air is still, as long as nothing goes over the open media, you don't need anything else. I don't use gloves, alcohol, strange modded teks, or anything really. No time to prep either. Just spray the walls and go to town.

With a big enough sab you can do just as much work as a FH too. Back in my big days I would be doing 100 jars a week, never once did I feel the need for a FH. Until I make an edible farm, I have no need for FH or AAs. BL summed it up nicely.



Very true, I didn't get one until I realized I had a 20 lb. bag of oyster spawn being delivered and couldn't imagine inoculating 40 sawdust bags in an SAB, I literally ordered everything I needed that night with overnight shipping and got my hood built before I got that delivery from Aloha. Changed my life.


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Re: Exactly how effective IS a flowhood? [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23444195 - 07/15/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm a greedy motherfucker so I want all the comfortable gizmos. The AA is the one that's gonna get the better of me though, all I can do is stare.


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Re: Exactly how effective IS a flowhood? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23444213 - 07/15/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm a greedy motherfucker so I want all the comfortable gizmos. The AA is the one that's gonna get the better of me though, all I can do is stare.




They are pretty, and fucking tanks.


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Re: Exactly how effective IS a flowhood? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23448302 - 07/16/16 11:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I have no exp with a hood.




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With a big enough sab you can do just as much work as a FH





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Re: Exactly how effective IS a flowhood? [Re: Juiceh]
    #23448792 - 07/17/16 04:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well they can when they get used to it. My 150L SAB fits more jars than I can fit in front of my FH. I don't like SABs personally, haven't used it since I built my hood but if you get used to it enough a FH can be pointless to own. It's all about getting the best success rate you can, if you can pull that off in a SAB, there's no reason to own a hood.  Most of the folks who always use SABs like Bodi, Mads, Pasty don't even feel restricted using one whereas I feel like I'm fucking handcuffed.


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Re: Exactly how effective IS a flowhood? [Re: Juiceh]
    #23448843 - 07/17/16 05:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I have no exp with a hood.




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With a big enough sab you can do just as much work as a FH







Lol! Didn't we have this exact fight like a year ago? Yeah we did.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21654428#21654428

Sure with bags FH would surely be superior which is what mushroom farms use. But with jars and agar, yeah you should easily be able to do the same amount of shit just as fast. A sab isn't restrictive, a poorly built sab is. When I work, I work like as if it isn't there lol. The arm holes are supposed to be huge. Some don't even have arm holes, they leave the entire wall of the box open. People who think FHs are so much faster and blah blah blah (which they are for bags), just sucked at sabs, and had a poorly built sab.

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If a flow hood gives you better posture, movement, better on your back. Etc...

Then you're just a retard at building a SAB. Make the SAB big enough with arm holes big and wide enough that it's no different than working in front of a hood....

I've never done pour agar in anything but my still air box





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Re: Exactly how effective IS a flowhood? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23449080 - 07/17/16 08:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That actually seems rather reaffirming, i figured a flow hood was an inevitable next step or so for mushrooms. But instead i really just need to improve my technique it seems, or rather, i have the option to.


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Re: Exactly how effective IS a flowhood? [Re: DrMushroom]
    #23451180 - 07/17/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, if you have luck using it, there's no reason why you should spend a couple hundred bucks on something which won't increase your success rate.

Not everyone feels the same about SABs though, some folks can't stand working in them once they get a feel for a hood. It's one of those things where it's based on preference and each individual's experience using whatever he was using. Some have no reason to build a hood while others can't go back to a SAB.


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