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just_curious
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Huge cubensis B+ pins.
#23441708 - 07/14/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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So after my first flush, I picked all the aborts, dunked, and tried my hand at getting a second flush. I started seeing pins come up, but they were stalled and extremely dark, so of course I came here explaining my frustration with being unable to get a second flush. I was certain they were all aborts. But here they came, growing VERY slow, but are huge! My matures on my first flush didn't get as big as some of these pins and in my opinion, don't appear like they're going to open up any time soon. My first flush was exactly what you would expect to see, decent sized stems in diameter, even Pinset, light dark (almost golden caps), but didn't yield too much (about 4.5 oz). And then there are these fatties growing slow and dark brown. Here's some pics.

These stems are way thicker in diameter than my thumb. This is a 66qt mono if that puts anything in perspective for size. If this keep at it, I wonder if the weight from this flush will be equal to, or greater than the first.
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they look like they might be a little too wet, and need more FAE, but awesome job! also, looks like the caps should start opening up pretty soon.
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just_curious
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Re: Huge cubensis B+ pins. [Re: mupetmower]
#23441740 - 07/14/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I had just sprayed them, that's why they look wet. They dry up very quickly where I live. I wish my first flushes pins were this size lol. Especially with the amount I picked!
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ok thats fine, but see how the stems are like all brown striped and kinda shriveled looking? every time i see that, it seems like it is usually from poor FAE and too much misting.
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Re: Huge cubensis B+ pins. [Re: mupetmower]
#23443158 - 07/15/16 07:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Those are smidge oversaturated but still will be fine eating. Nice stuff and dial stuff in a touch more so you don't need to mist so much.
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just_curious
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Re: Huge cubensis B+ pins. [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23443856 - 07/15/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You should see them now! As soon as my phone is done charging, I will post a pic. Turned out very well. I appreciate the advice and words of encouragement.
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just_curious
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Why are my second flushes mushrooms so much bigger and healthier than my first flush. I dunked after the first flush. Perhaps I'm making my sub on the dry side when I prepare it?...but I dunk my grains too. Hmmm. Any thoughts
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Pastywhyte
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Fewer pinsites for the second flush mean more resources get directed per fruit. If you really dial things in, get your field capacity down, and supply extra water at critical moments, you can get larger fruits in the first flush than you see in the rest.
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Re: Huge cubensis B+ pins. [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23444317 - 07/15/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Okay. I'll keep working on the dialing in. I guess I just assume that it's good when I see condensation around the walls of the tub, a decent ring around my bottom holes, and loose poly to the point where it's almost falling out.
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Honestly it's gonna be a bit different for everyone depending on their own environment. Frank's method is a great starting point but I encourage people to tweak stuff to find what is really ideal.
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Re: Huge cubensis B+ pins. [Re: Pastywhyte] 1
#23444973 - 07/15/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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What's some things you look for pasty? This is my 2nd mono, and I've done one mini mono. Although not a total failure, I've only yielded 8 oz. The first mono contamed so I only got one flush, and then this one is getting 2. I'll take your advice any day. I'm sure things will start going a lot more smooth once I spawn these cloned grains. The clone was taken from a big healthy cluster.
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Pastywhyte
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Big healthy cluster is a good start. Try to see how to make the most from it. 8 oz from a first flush is pretty good for most clones but, you might see more mileage with a casing and more FAE. You need to try a few things if you want to keep improving.
When I was growing a lot I also ran loads of different clones to find better and better ones. I would do the clones in minis and when I found one that looked good I would then run it in bigger monos. Keep looking.
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Re: Huge cubensis B+ pins. [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23445203 - 07/15/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok cool. Yeah, I thought about doing a casing layer, but all the advise I received said you don't have to case cubensis and has no proof of added benefit. I keep my monos raised off the ground about 2 feet on a night stand, about a foot and a half off the wall, and with the ceiling fan on low just to circulate the air in the room. I have also been running just straight CVG. Do you think a 50/50 mixture of CVG and manure would be an added benefit. I've thought about running coffee grounds too, but there is a lot of talk about coffee having a high potential for contams. I also consider a 1/3,1/3,1/3 mixture of CVG, hpoo, and straw. Prep that mixture real good and then add in my grains. Any opinions, or can too many variations in sub be detrimental?
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