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Some good reasons to live. * 1
    #23441653 - 07/14/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It seems like I always end up falling back in deep depression. So now I searched the web and found basicly nothing worthwhile that seems like a good reason. So what are some good reasons to live?

What is life all about? For what reasons do people wake up in the morning and go to their jobs only to basicly push death aside for a while?

This reality is based upon some kind of constant loop, like a bad acid trip.

For some odd reason life just seems like a big problem full of smaller problems that constantly need fixing, and when you do than what? You are born, go to school, get a job, move out, than what? Just get in a joyless routine? Even finding a hobby becomes just another drag after some time.

What are your options if you just go through life pushing yourself to do stuff you don't even know why you're doing them while at the same time nobody really cares for you instead just interacts with you if they need something or expect something from you?

I'm not really suicidal even, just confused with why all this is happening. Couldn't even get some answer from psychedelics either, even drugs bore me nowadays.


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: AwesomeUsername] * 2
    #23441673 - 07/14/16 06:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: California] * 6
    #23441704 - 07/14/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Get a dog



The dog will love you unconditionally just for being you



The dog will reach out to you when you are depressed



The dog will show you how to relax and that life doesn't have to be hard


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: Starstepper] * 1
    #23441710 - 07/14/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Get a dog



GIZMO. I live for Gizmo


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: MommaSmurf]
    #23441716 - 07/14/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

take up meth


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: MommaSmurf]
    #23441718 - 07/14/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

We luh MS  :happyheart:


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: Starstepper]
    #23441720 - 07/14/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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We luh MS  :happyheart:



:smilingpuppy:
I luh u guys 2


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: MommaSmurf]
    #23441733 - 07/14/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Get a dog



GIZMO. I live for Gizmo



Or it'll use you for food. In which case you learn you have to stay alive to feed it anyways.


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: AwesomeUsername] * 5
    #23441734 - 07/14/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Sometimes people will ask you why you are angry or down, why you are depressed or sad. And it's often difficult to come up with a solid answer before getting stuck in a loop. Some people delude the answer, and list off a bunch of shit that shouldn't have so much weight in their lives, but these are not at the core of their anger/boredom/depression. These are just things that are negatively catapulted by it, and that create anxiety or dissonance as a result of depression rather than as a cause.

I was pretty depressed for years until I changed my lifestyle up. The question shouldn't be, "What is a good reason to live?", but more along the lines of, "What can I do to make life worth living?". Exercise was a huge factor in my happiness, as well as moderate sobriety. Using psychedelics and alcohol sparsely, a few times a year, has made the experiences much better, more valuable. Running 4-5 times a week has helped my health tremendously and had huge effects on my mood.

I joined the Army about a year and half ago, and that too brought an unexpected kind of happiness. Not something I'd recommend for everyone by any means, but the core idea should be that a massive change in overall lifestyle can bring positive benefits. Working (and accomplishing) goals you set for yourself brings purpose, even if the goals are relatively small.

Some people have a natural depression that goes much deeper than others. I'm not one of those people, but for a long time I thought I was. Perpetually stuck in the cycles of depression and over consumption. The last (almost) two years have been some of my most positive and happy two years in life, even predating my childhood. I'd say diet and exercise did it for me. If you're already active, there is other stuff that you can change though.

Going back to the reasons. Sometimes we focus too much on inane shit when it comes to why we are depressed. "Shit just doesn't go my way", "This line is too long", "My job sucks". All things that are passive and have little to do with overall happiness. If they are contributors to depression, they can be changed (for most people). A lot of it is attitude, and more importantly - diet and physical health. Sleep, drink water, eat fruits and vegetables. You know? Your circumstances wont change because you get in better physical and mental health, your perceptive of them does. Something that could cause debilitating anxiety one year might cause joy and happiness the next year.

If anything, it's worth living to see those positive days fulfill themselves.


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: Starstepper]
    #23442071 - 07/14/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

What is life all about?
Nothing. Just do whatever makes you happy.


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: AwesomeUsername]
    #23442103 - 07/14/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If you're asking that question, you just haven't found what makes YOUR life worth living. You have to take action to change your lifestyle. I've had pretty bad manic depression on and off my whole life, both when I was addicted and totally sober. I would go from considering suicide to being ok 10 minutes later. It was a big step for me to get on medication (lexapro+wellbutrin) but it helped give me the motivation to get off my ass and start finding some fulfillment. I've been through hell and back, if you think I can help feel free to PM me.


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: AwesomeUsername] * 1
    #23442108 - 07/14/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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You are born, go to school, get a job, move out, than what? Just get in a joyless routine? Even finding a hobby becomes just another drag after some time.






This is why it's important for people to find jobs that they actually like doing, that way you get paid to do something you love, and it doesn't feel like work.  I was starting a seed business years ago, long story I am not getting into, anyway I would work from early morning, till late night, never felt like work, and I was constantly learning, I was very happy with that.

I often think we're not supposed to be the way we are nowadays, like we should be waking up, farming, hunting, and fixing our homestead, rather than getting rushed along the rat race of life.

Perhaps you should find new hobbies, ones that really catch your attention.  It's never to late to start something new, and sometimes when we start something new, it can benefit our older hobbies as well, because after we do a new hobby for a while, we want to revisit the old ones again, and will find a new passion for them.


Music is one reason to live, I love music, and in the morning when I wake up, until I go to bed, am constantly surrounded by it.  Gardening is another reason to live, to take care of something and watch it flourish is a wonderful feeling.


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Re: Some good reasons to live. *DELETED* [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #23442117 - 07/14/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: Sanguin3]
    #23442150 - 07/14/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I was depressed through most of high school even though I led a pretty good life on paper. Once I found psyches and had my first mushroom trip my outlook on life changed drastically. That night was the first time I felt truly happy in as long as I could remember, and it's when I realized that I was in control of my mood and not the other way around. It's hard to explain my change in mindset and I honestly can't even remember enough of the 'before' to understand it myself, but something changed.

After that I started focusing on my relationship with my future wife. We've been together 5 years now and although I don't always wake up happy I keep working and bettering myself and our lives for her. I can't speak for everyone of course, but in my life love is the most important and rewarding part of the human experience. If I had nothing else in this world, she would be enough.



This is a great story, but I wouldn't recommend using psychedelics if you're depressed, weed included.


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: saythatagain]
    #23442182 - 07/14/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

At this point I'm just hanging around because I want to be alive to see the Big Happening in whatever form it takes. World is getting exponentially crazier every day.


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: AwesomeUsername]
    #23442305 - 07/14/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

For me, living life is about seeking out the next best thing. For example, that next awesome acid trip, that next awesom shroom trip, the next awesome dinner date with my GF, that next awesome purchase at a store of something you always wanted.

Striving to better your life is why i keep working at my job and returning to the routine everyday.

Some of my goals are: buying a quad to go 4 wheeling, take a vacation via airplane to a new place, go to Disneyland, buy a new car, upgrade my hobbies, start new hobbies, get a diamond ring for my GF, pay off my debt, etc etc....

You gotta have some clear goals to be happy. I read a quote recently: Happiness isnt a destination, its a byproduct. In other words, happiness comes as a byproduct of achieving your goals and dreams.

If u dont have any goals or dreams, then u need to change your life so u do have some.


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #23442556 - 07/14/16 11:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Plants and music and two of my biggest joys in life, there is so much amazing nature out there in the world waiting for us to explore it.

You could spend a dozen lifetimes dedicated to travel and still just barely scratch the surface. Same with music in all its various forms.


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: musiclover420] * 5
    #23442601 - 07/15/16 12:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Want to hear some good news?

Today,

A child had tasted ice cream for the first time.

Two people fell in love

A group of friends made life long memories

Someone spent time with a long-lost relative and reliving old memories

Someone helped someone who was in need

People hugged, kissed, cried tears of joy, and kept eachother company today.

Someone had the best sex they have ever had

A song was written that will make someones day or be alot of peoples favorite song

A mother sang her child to sleep

People worked together to solve a problem

There is some good news for ya seems like you may need some

That all seems like good reason to be alive dont you think?


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: Plain] * 1
    #23442644 - 07/15/16 12:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:justastonishing:

That was beautiful. Thank you :heart:


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: Plain] * 2
    #23442649 - 07/15/16 12:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:youthemandawg:

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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: Starstepper]
    #23443278 - 07/15/16 08:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I guess because the fear of death outweighs the suffering caused by living another day.  Time really seems to be an illusion created by our brains anyway, so I figure what's another day. 

Then sometimes at the worst life can be there is a little glimmer of hope that things can get better, and that is enough to go on.

When I am really down I also think about my ancestors and all the people who have persevered before me long enough for me to get here.  I try to endure in case my suffering is a stepping stone to something better even if it is for someone else. 

Also to spite all the assholes who wouldn't want me to make it.  There's things I hate that I don't think I'll ever be able to overcome, but I still hate the idea of giving in more than I hate the things I hate, and I don't want to admit defeat.

I know I'm not alone.  I know there are others going through similar experiences, and I think me dying would only make it harder for the people who care about me.


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23443315 - 07/15/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Good music, good people, good times. The reason I haven't offed myself yet is because I just want to help all my brothers and sisters come up and make their lives as good as they can be and help them realize there's more to this life than pain. And of course to make music that will outlive my physical body and exist in perfection forever.

This has been a great thread so far. Brought some tears to my eyes at times. Even if no one's answers provide OP any solace, I'm glad he made the thread anyway.


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Connoisseur said:
oh ive cried on drugs

sunshine said:
Tragic.  I told the cop not to do it but he didn't listen.


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #23443319 - 07/15/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've always liked Nietzsche. To live is to suffer. We need to know how suffering feels so when you reach happiness you can really be mindful and enjoy those moments. There is meaning in suffering.


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: Starstepper] * 1
    #23443332 - 07/15/16 09:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:werd:

Your dog is damn cute by the way :awesomenod: Dogs really do help a lot with my depression as stupid as that probably sounds to people who don't have dogs in their life. They're just lil balls or pure positivity that just wanna spread love and happiness and unconditionally love you.


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Connoisseur said:
oh ive cried on drugs

sunshine said:
Tragic.  I told the cop not to do it but he didn't listen.


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    #23443344 - 07/15/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I am too much of an asshole to own a dog on my own though.  The thing would get neglected because I am selfish and depressed.  I love my family's and friend's dogs, but I think most people are too selfish for a dog and they shouldn't be used like a band-aid to fix our existential woes.

I probably shouldn't even have an ant farm at this point in my life.


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23443353 - 07/15/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Haha, that's definitely not what I was implying. They're not band aids, they're companions that are there for you no matter what the circumstances. I agree though that a lot of people really barely even see them as living beings and just treat them as accessories whenever it's convenient for them

That being said, I don't think I'm good enough with money to keep a dog of my own alive either. Love living with a roommate who has an adorable pup though :smile:


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oh ive cried on drugs

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Tragic.  I told the cop not to do it but he didn't listen.


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: Starstepper]
    #23443381 - 07/15/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Good old depression. Quite the bitch isn't she? Always around the corner ready to sneak up on you at any moment and then you just can't shake it off.

The problem is in your head. Luckily for you OP, the brain has the uncanny ability to fix itself. But it takes and effort. That's where you're lucky again! You're depressed, you have nothing else to do right?

You have to focus, think hard, lift yourself up and think THIS ENDS NOW! and really fucking mean it. By that I mean, you stand the fuck up and you immediately do a chore you've put off and fucking do it. No giving up. Get it over with. Then you'll have a small feeling of satisfaction and the one of the biggest negative eliminated from your life. From there, you'll start feeling down again, you won't give a fuck about that small accomplishment, what's the point of it all right? That's generally where you feel all the energy drained out of you. But again, you hype yourself up. Jump up and down if you have too. Then go and do another fucking thing you hate. Complete it. You'll have that small feeling of satisfaction again and suddenly two shitty things out of your life.

From there your lifestyle and surrounding will have increased for the better. Use that to hype yourself again and again. Ignore the depression. No matter how fucking heavy it is. Even if you're in tears, DO SOMETHING. Distract yourself from it. Pretend it's not even there even if you feel it consuming you. Suddenly you'll get some energy back. Some momentum.

Generally depression sets itself in for like 20 minutes before you realize that all you're thinking about are negative things. The minute you realize that it's happening, snap yourself out of it. Talk to yourself if you have too. I got you motherfucker now get the hell out of my head!

Eventually you'll realize that you'll be depressed less frequently and that the depressing moment are not as bad as they were. Then you'll win!

Or take pills, whatever...


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: hex_enduction]
    #23443399 - 07/15/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Gizmo was my first dog. I never thought  I would be so connected emotionally. No matter how bad your day is you can walk in the door and the dog is so happy to see you that it just flips the script to cheer you up. Sometimes I think about what it would be like if one of the dogs got hit by a car or something and it makes me cry. The loyalty and unconditional love they give is an amazing experience. I have had bad benders in the past where I was drinking too much whiskey and having  a pity party. Gizmo would come over and lick the tears off my face and comfort me. I refer to him as a healing pug.


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Re: Some good reasons to live. [Re: Starstepper] * 1
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Starstepper said:
Gizmo was my first dog. I never thought  I would be so connected emotionally. No matter how bad your day is you can walk in the door and the dog is so happy to see you that it just flips the script to cheer you up. Sometimes I think about what it would be like if one of the dogs got hit by a car or something and it makes me cry. The loyalty and unconditional love they give is an amazing experience. I have had bad benders in the past where I was drinking too much whiskey and having  a pity party. Gizmo would come over and lick the tears off my face and comfort me. I refer to him as a healing pug.



That's beautiful

I feel similar for my doge  :bunnyhug:


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