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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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If people ~cough we all know who~ don't come in here and blame the tool and instead blame the person who used this tool I'm going to flip my shit.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy] 1
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Mad_Larkin] 2
#23441459 - 07/14/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why would you say this is a nice terror attack? Smh...
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: twighead] 1
#23441473 - 07/14/16 05:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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RIP to the dead, fuckin terrorists.
Bad people doing bad shit no matter what tool they get.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: PreparationH] 4
#23441477 - 07/14/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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If only they had guns to defend themselves.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Patlal] 12
#23441481 - 07/14/16 05:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a truck is a good guy with a truck
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Patlal] 2
#23441508 - 07/14/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Patlal said: If only they had guns to defend themselves.
You get so excited for any opportunity to say this, don't you? Looks like a gun did kill him, so, hooray for guns!
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Eminence] 2
#23441516 - 07/14/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Patlal said: If only they had guns to defend themselves.
You get so excited for any opportunity to say this, don't you? Looks like a gun did kill him, so, hooray for guns!
I jizz my pants every time. after a while you'll feel like such an idiot with your guns that you might just grow a brain
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Patlal]
#23441524 - 07/14/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Canada bans trucks to deter terrorism.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Sun King]
#23441528 - 07/14/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Only those who don't pass the pollution emission test.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#23441532 - 07/14/16 06:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Patlal] 4
#23441540 - 07/14/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That was pretty weak, Patlal.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Niffla]
#23441553 - 07/14/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Europe sounds pretty dangerous these days, the security measures were already a bit much when I visited a decade ago.
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#23441562 - 07/14/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: If people ~cough we all know who~ don't come in here and blame the tool and instead blame the person who used this tool I'm going to flip my shit.
You guys think this is such a cool argument. 
Trucks are dangerous. That's why you have to take a test, get a license and pay insurance to operate and own one. Guns are even more dangerous, yet any fucking retard can buy one. Let's regulate guns like we do trucks
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Eminence]
#23441563 - 07/14/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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No, it wasn't. Convincinngyou people to give up guns will save 200 times more people.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: koods] 4
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Shroomslip said: If people ~cough we all know who~ don't come in here and blame the tool and instead blame the person who used this tool I'm going to flip my shit.
You guys think this is such a cool argument. 
Trucks are dangerous. That's why you have to take a test, get a license and pay insurance to operate and own one. Guns are even more dangerous, yet any fucking retard can buy one. Let's regulate guns like we do trucks 
criminals can get a truck anywhere though!
they always will!
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: twighead]
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twighead said:
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Shroomslip said: If people ~cough we all know who~ don't come in here and blame the tool and instead blame the person who used this tool I'm going to flip my shit.
You guys think this is such a cool argument. 
Trucks are dangerous. That's why you have to take a test, get a license and pay insurance to operate and own one. Guns are even more dangerous, yet any fucking retard can buy one. Let's regulate guns like we do trucks 
criminals can get a truck anywhere though!
they always will!
Even though I've used that argument in the gun debates I gotta admit that made me lol
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#23441576 - 07/14/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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No, fuck that. Trucks can be used to commit mass murder, there's no place for that in civilized society. They need to be banned.
The funny thing is I know that sounds ridiculous when I say it. Cool argument? What is this? Middle school. Fine everyone must take and pass a test before using a gun that is roughly equivalent to a driver's test. That does what exactly? I guarantee the very first shooting, even done by someone who passed that test, you're gonna be saying all the same damn shit anyways. Stop pretending like your problem is that there's no testing done before you get a gun. You blame the tool and not the person. Every damn time.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: twighead]
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Trucks are dangerous. That's why you have to take a test, get a license and pay insurance to operate and own one. Guns are even more dangerous, yet any fucking retard can buy one. Let's regulate guns like we do trucks 
criminals can get a truck anywhere though!
they always will!
Well... yeah 
How many people drive with a suspended license? Stolen cars? If you're willing to kill, its not hard to find a vehicle or a gun.
I could find unregistered guns when I was an underage teenager Precisely because I was a criminal
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Sheekle]
#23441742 - 07/14/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You just want everyone to look the other way while you take their guns, so you can assimilate your dictatorship with greater facility.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: twighead]
#23441789 - 07/14/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: If people ~cough we all know who~ don't come in here and blame the tool and instead blame the person who used this tool I'm going to flip my shit.
You guys think this is such a cool argument. 
Trucks are dangerous. That's why you have to take a test, get a license and pay insurance to operate and own one. Guns are even more dangerous, yet any fucking retard can buy one. Let's regulate guns like we do trucks 
criminals can get a truck anywhere though!
they always will!
If you are serious about this line of reasoning, then you aren't a serious person. Criminals, by definition, break laws. Doesn't mean we shouldn't have laws. We have A LOT of law and regulations concerning motor vehicles because they are inherently dangerous. Those laws have worked very well.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: koods] 2
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If you are serious about this line of reasoning, then you aren't a serious person. Criminals, by definition, break laws. Doesn't mean we shouldn't have laws. We have A LOT of law and regulations concerning motor vehicles because they are inherently dangerous. Those laws have worked very well.
Like prohibition?
Even if one believes in the "moral" behind prohibition, its a lost cause.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Repertoire89]
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I don't think he is advocating prohibition, but rather tighter regulation.
Not sure, either way. R.I.P to the loss of life in France.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: TNK]
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Death toll is up to 80, which is about the amount of people killed in the theater last year in Paris.
Imagine if this was a coordinated attack with trucks, more people would have died then in the mass shooting.
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TheNatureKid said: I don't think he is advocating prohibition, but rather tighter regulation.
They don't get that. You can't ban all guns in the US. I've never said ban all guns. These guys have an all or nothing mentality. There's no nuance whatsoever. No actual discussion about mitigating risk. Apparently, BLM is racist because they don't address every fucking social problem in this county. It's all or nothing. I'm really disappointed in the intellectual decline of this site. It's nothing but strawman arguments and deflection.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: koods]
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TheNatureKid said: I don't think he is advocating prohibition, but rather tighter regulation.
They don't get that. You can't ban all guns in the US. I've never said ban all guns. These guys have an all or nothing mentality. There's no nuance whatsoever. No actual discussion about mitigating risk. Apparently, BLM is racist because they don't address every fucking social problem in this county. It's all or nothing. I'm really disappointed in the intellectual decline of this site. It's nothing but strawman arguments and deflection.
Your post here is an ironic straw-man / deflection.
Painting an argument which wasn't made, and bringing up an irrelevant topic.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: koods] 4
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Shroomslip said: If people ~cough we all know who~ don't come in here and blame the tool and instead blame the person who used this tool I'm going to flip my shit.
You guys think this is such a cool argument. 
Trucks are dangerous. That's why you have to take a test, get a license and pay insurance to operate and own one. Guns are even more dangerous, yet any fucking retard can buy one. Let's regulate guns like we do trucks 
I'd love for you to explain to me how a gun is more dangerous than a 40 ton truck. I think this asshole did a great demonstration debunking that line of thinking.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy] 3
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the truck had them
it also had explosives
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TheNatureKid said: I don't think he is advocating prohibition, but rather tighter regulation.
They don't get that. You can't ban all guns in the US. I've never said ban all guns. These guys have an all or nothing mentality. There's no nuance whatsoever. No actual discussion about mitigating risk. Apparently, BLM is racist because they don't address every fucking social problem in this county. It's all or nothing. I'm really disappointed in the intellectual decline of this site. It's nothing but strawman arguments and deflection.
we dont have an all or nothing mentality, we have the "fuck you, I have the gods damned guns and you can just suck it" mentality, so you know. suck it.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: koods]
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TheNatureKid said: I don't think he is advocating prohibition, but rather tighter regulation.
They don't get that. You can't ban all guns in the US. I've never said ban all guns. These guys have an all or nothing mentality. There's no nuance whatsoever. No actual discussion about mitigating risk. Apparently, BLM is racist because they don't address every fucking social problem in this county. It's all or nothing. I'm really disappointed in the intellectual decline of this site. It's nothing but strawman arguments and deflection.
You would know best.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: qman]
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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/07/11/merkel-admits-her-refugee-policy-helped-bring-terrorists-to-germany.html
Look at this, just a few day ago Merkel admits that her open door policy of Muslim's and African's flooding into the EU also included terrorists (ISIS).
Well no shit, what do you think was going to happen when you allow a free for all of third world migrants flooding into the EU?
The right wing takeover of the EU has just really started, this isn't going to be pretty.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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we dont have an all or nothing mentality, we have the "fuck you, I have the gods damned guns and you can just suck it" mentality, so you know. suck it.
If you can make that part of your campaign policy, I'll change my vote for shroomery dictator
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: qman]
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qman said: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/07/11/merkel-admits-her-refugee-policy-helped-bring-terrorists-to-germany.html
Look at this, just a few day ago Merkel admits that her open door policy of Muslim's and African's flooding into the EU also included terrorists (ISIS).
Well no shit, what do you think was going to happen when you allow a free for all of third world migrants flooding into the EU?
The right wing takeover of the EU has just really started, this isn't going to be pretty.
Well if this is the job the EU left did 
To be serious though, Merkel and co knew what they were doing.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Repertoire89]
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qman said: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/07/11/merkel-admits-her-refugee-policy-helped-bring-terrorists-to-germany.html
Look at this, just a few day ago Merkel admits that her open door policy of Muslim's and African's flooding into the EU also included terrorists (ISIS).
Well no shit, what do you think was going to happen when you allow a free for all of third world migrants flooding into the EU?
The right wing takeover of the EU has just really started, this isn't going to be pretty.
Well if this is the job the EU left did 
To be serious though, Merkel and co knew what they were doing.
Yes she did, she better have a good escape plan when the shit hits the fan, she's going to have blood on her hands.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: qman]
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They have to have some kind of a plan, you don't stir the pot like this and just let shit ride.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: GUNS
the truck had them
it also had explosives
thankfully guns are banned in france so no one was killed
Except the truck driver that was shot.
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we dont have an all or nothing mentality, we have the "fuck you, I have the gods damned guns and you can just suck it" mentality, so you know. suck it.
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: GUNS
the truck had them
it also had explosives
thankfully guns are banned in france so no one was killed
Except the truck driver that was shot.

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She's disgusting. If things get bad enough the blood on her hands might just be her own too. Apparently she was talking to Zuckerburg about censoring negative comments about the immigrants.
Just watch, this truck driver is going to turn out to be a Muslim. I'll be shocked if he isn't.
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Just watch, this truck driver is going to turn out to be a Muslim. I'll be shocked if he isn't.
Islam is the religion of peace, no true Muslim has ever committed an act of terror
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: hostileuniverse]
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"Apparently she was talking to Zuckerburg about censoring negative comments about the immigrants."
Yeah they had their first wave of police raids for people expressing "illegal opinions" on facebook just recently 
http://www.thelocal.de/20160713/german-police-launch-first-nationwide-hate-speech-raids
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I can't believe this happened AGAIN. What the fuck is wrong with people?
This is the strongest argument for atheism right here. You can't deny that this shit wouldn't be going on if no one believed in anything.
This guy just mowed down a bunch of completely innocent children who were watching a fireworks show on "French 4th of July." There is NO fucking excuse for this shit.
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Wow..I used to have a lot of respect for Germany. Insane. Please tell me that's a joke
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Why would it be a joke? Germany has never had free speech laws like the USA. Even wearing or owning Nazi paraphernalia is a crime punishable by jail. Giving the Nazi salute is a crime. Hate speech is a crime in Germany. How do you not know that?
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This is the strongest argument for atheism right here. You can't deny that this shit wouldn't be going on if no one believed in anything.
http://www.skeptical-science.com/atheism/hitler-stalin-mao-atheist-mass-murderers/
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: nooneman]
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This guy just mowed down a bunch of completely innocent children who were watching a fireworks show on "French 4th of July." There is NO fucking excuse for this shit.
Shit is unreal, man. Did I see correctly on the news that dude came in flooring it in a semi??
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Yup, and actually sped up as started hitting people. Drove for over a mile through a crowd in a semi.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: tHEfLY]
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Look at this, just a few day ago Merkel admits that her open door policy of Muslim's and African's flooding into the EU also included terrorists (ISIS).
Well no shit, what do you think was going to happen when you allow a free for all of third world migrants flooding into the EU?
The right wing takeover of the EU has just really started, this isn't going to be pretty.
I read he was a Tunisian French national.
France has a huge Muslim population, the bigger in Europe in fact and way before the influx of refugees.
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tHEfLY said: "Apparently she was talking to Zuckerburg about censoring negative comments about the immigrants."
Yeah they had their first wave of police raids for people expressing "illegal opinions" on facebook just recently 
http://www.thelocal.de/20160713/german-police-launch-first-nationwide-hate-speech-raids
Hate speech is illegal in Germany because of their history if you'll remember it.
Right wing propaganda is not tolerated and hate speeches towards immigrants online is of course not tolerated.
Fire bombing incidents of refugee centers aren't uncommon and they don't want this particular brad of steam rising.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: hostileuniverse]
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This is the strongest argument for atheism right here. You can't deny that this shit wouldn't be going on if no one believed in anything.
http://www.skeptical-science.com/atheism/hitler-stalin-mao-atheist-mass-murderers/
Hitler was a christian, and communism (as it existed in China and Russia in the communist era) is just another religion.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Crystal G]
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Yeah I know and that part about Germany is shitty but I find this situation worse right now because it's protecting the people who are contributing to ruining the country at this very moment. Even though it's stupid, I at least understand why they wouldn't want people encouraging anything nazi related, but talking shit about people helping to fuck up the country? I know it's all "hate speech" but damn..
I just have this feeling that German Muslims posting negative comments about native Germans wouldn't be considered hate speech.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: nooneman]
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Same day as in the movie killing zoe,let some more immigrants in europe,yah it will work out just fine,arresting ppl for speaking their minds,I would go into no fucks given mode if I lived there
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It's all going to backfire on them, there's no stopping a German population that gets pissed off, it won't end pretty.
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This is the strongest argument for atheism right here. You can't deny that this shit wouldn't be going on if no one believed in anything.
http://www.skeptical-science.com/atheism/hitler-stalin-mao-atheist-mass-murderers/
Hitler was a christian, and communism (as it existed in China and Russia in the communist era) is just another religion.
LMFAO! Yeah ok then
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Why would it be a joke? Germany has never had free speech laws like the USA. Even wearing or owning Nazi paraphernalia is a crime punishable by jail. Giving the Nazi salute is a crime. Hate speech is a crime in Germany. How do you not know that?
and that is how progressives want to see it in the US, the only speech that matters to them is the vitriolic shit they say
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Right wing propaganda is not tolerated and hate speeches towards immigrants online is of course not tolerated.
and leftwing propaganda is encouraged
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Right wing propaganda is not tolerated and hate speeches towards immigrants online is of course not tolerated.
and leftwing propaganda is encouraged
Interesting that you correlate anti-immigrant hate speech with right-wing ideology. Says a lot about the platform you stand for.
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Right wing propaganda is not tolerated and hate speeches towards immigrants online is of course not tolerated.
and leftwing propaganda is encouraged
Interesting that you correlate anti-immigrant hate speech with right-wing ideology. Says a lot about the platform you stand for.
maybe you should real lobsterfest's post
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This guy just mowed down a bunch of completely innocent children who were watching a fireworks show on "French 4th of July." There is NO fucking excuse for this shit.
Shit is unreal, man. Did I see correctly on the news that dude came in flooring it in a semi??
They are saying he started zigzagging so he could hit more people and so people who thought they dodged him would get hit as well.
That dude was nuts. I would get sick and have to pull over if I ran over a dog or cat, I could not imagine killing 80 people and still driving.
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For real. I once knocked out a dude who gave me a ride after I picked up some dope from him when he purposefully swerved into a cat in my neighborhood thinking it would somehow be funny to me. I probably would've blacked out and mangled this psycho if I somehow got a hold of him myself after doing something like this. Can't really fathom being that fucked in the head. So fucking bizarre
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Eminence]
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5150 said: Same day as in the movie killing zoe,let some more immigrants in europe,yah it will work out just fine,arresting ppl for speaking their minds,I would go into no fucks given mode if I lived there
It's all going to backfire on them, there's no stopping a German population that gets pissed off, it won't end pretty.
This just shows that you dont know anything about germany
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
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I'm not saying this was a deciding factor but it couldn't have helped.
http://www.thejournal.ie/france-politics-hairdresser-2877009-Jul2016/ French president's personal hairdresser paid almost €10,000 a month
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: LobsterSauce]
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LobsterSauce said: I'm not saying this was a deciding factor but it couldn't have helped.
http://www.thejournal.ie/france-politics-hairdresser-2877009-Jul2016/ French president's personal hairdresser paid almost €10,000 a month
Elected politicians everywhere live like royalty on the tax payer dime, personal chefs, tailors, housekeepers, gardeners, security, along with luxurious vacations, it's no wonder people go into "public" office, getting to live like a king without actually doing anything is tempting indeed
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
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People need to stop pretending Islam isn't at the crux of this problem. All day I've been hearing the term "Islamophobia" being thrown around and I'm fucking sick of it. Islam is NOT a religion of peace, pure and simple. The core message of the Quran is death to infidels, anyone who has read the texts knows this is a fact. They can cherry pick and interpret the verses in any way they please but it doesn't change shit.
I do feel for the peaceful Muslim community, but whether they claim that their religion has been hijacked is irrelevant at this point. I understand it's important to them, but what I don't understand is why they would still want to be associated with a religion that's causing so much cruelty and bloodshed.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: jsncrs]
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Their religion wasn't hijacked, it's a barbaric ideology if a rigid interpretation is followed. It's what happens when a warlord starts his own religion... Say what you will about Christianity, but at least Jesus didn't kill anyone for denying him. Muhammad was a warrior that spread Islam by the sword.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: jsncrs]
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I have never read the quran .. But why do everyone that reads it say its indeed a peaceful religion .... What I dont understand is why people who never read it ( poster above me ) think they know more than those who read it.. I find it disturbing , either way fuck muslims and religion
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http://www.thejournal.ie/france-politics-hairdresser-2877009-Jul2016/ French president's personal hairdresser paid almost €10,000 a month
Elected politicians everywhere live like royalty on the tax payer dime, personal chefs, tailors, housekeepers, gardeners, security, along with luxurious vacations, it's no wonder people go into "public" office, getting to live like a king without actually doing anything is tempting indeed
Except José Mujica
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Kinko]
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Kinko said: I have never read the quran .. But why do everyone that reads it say its indeed a peaceful religion .... What I dont understand is why people who never read it ( poster above me ) think they know more than those who read it.. I find it disturbing , either way fuck muslims and religion
I've read about half of it. It's so poorly written that I have a hard time reading it. People say the English translation sucks, but to me it reads like the ramblings of a crazy person. People can believe whatever they want, but Mohammad was a warrior that forced people to convert or risk death. The military campaigns of Mohammad are documented, you can read about them here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_expeditions_of_Muhammad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caravan_raids
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: LobsterSauce]
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LobsterSauce said: I'm not saying this was a deciding factor but it couldn't have helped.
http://www.thejournal.ie/france-politics-hairdresser-2877009-Jul2016/ French president's personal hairdresser paid almost €10,000 a month
the question to ask is, is that paid only by the president or does he have other clients
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/13/bad-hair-days-for-francois-hollande-over-10000-coiffeur-bill
Nope, he also has housing allowance and goes with him on international business in case his hair grows a mm or two.
Is also sworn to secrecy under penalty of guillotine if he talks to anyone about why he might have heard.
Missed the birth of his own children for the sake of the guys haircuts.
He's the real hero here.
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The city it took place in is named Nice (pronounced neese i think) not that it was a kind terror attack lmao
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
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It's all going to backfire on them, there's no stopping a German population that gets pissed off, it won't end pretty.
This just shows that you dont know anything about germany
Really? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/05/germanys-far-right-afd-party-has-more-public-support-than-ever/
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/05/afd-germany-anti-immigration/484700/
What don't I know?
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I do feel for the peaceful Muslim community, but whether they claim that their religion has been hijacked is irrelevant at this point. I understand it's important to them, but what I don't understand is why they would still want to be associated with a religion that's causing so much cruelty and bloodshed.
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LobsterSauce said: Hate speech is illegal in Germany because of their history if you'll remember it.
Right wing propaganda is not tolerated and hate speeches towards immigrants online is of course not tolerated.
and leftwing propaganda is encouraged
By whom?
The elite love to play us off each other so they encourage the social issues of the left to be brought to the forefront. But when it comes to shit that actually matters, leftist ideas like more taxes on the rich, an end to war, regulation on industry (let alone social ownership), ending corruption amongst the government and the banks, suddenly the "liberal media" aint so liberal.
If the people in control really wanted leftist propaganda to be spread, they wouldnt have blackballed Bernie Sanders for over a year.
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LobsterSauce said: Hate speech is illegal in Germany because of their history if you'll remember it.
Right wing propaganda is not tolerated and hate speeches towards immigrants online is of course not tolerated.
and leftwing propaganda is encouraged
By whom?
The elite love to play us off each other so they encourage the social issues of the left to be brought to the forefront. But when it comes to shit that actually matters, leftist ideas like more taxes on the rich, an end to war, regulation on industry (let alone social ownership), ending corruption amongst the government and the banks, suddenly the "liberal media" aint so liberal.
If the people in control really wanted leftist propaganda to be spread, they wouldnt have blackballed Bernie Sanders for over a year.
The "elite" have used the left to push their own agendas of immigration, globalization, financial bailouts, open borders, and central governance.
Most of these liberals have NO idea they are promoting issues for the elite, totally clueless.
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Im sorry, but free trade is synonymous with globalism, a cornerstone of the right. Both political parties also allow illegal immigration to continue, both supported the bailouts, and consolidation of power.
This is the problem: you perceive the corporate owned Democratic party as the definition of "left."
We cant even get the DNC to support a single payer system, something even dipshit right winger Nigel Farage touts in the UK. Why? Because the corporatocracy has both parties by the balls. Democrats are center right and republicans are hard right.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: Im sorry, but free trade is synonymous with globalism, a cornerstone of the right. Both political parties also allow illegal immigration to continue, both supported the bailouts, and consolidation of power.
This is the problem: you perceive the corporate owned Democratic party as the definition of "left."
We cant even get the DNC to support a single payer system, something even dipshit right winger Nigel Farage touts in the UK. Why? Because the corporatocracy has both parties by the balls. Democrats are center right and republicans are hard right.
But look at the rhetoric today, all of the liberals are calling Trump's anti- "free trade" sentiment "dangerous" and will lead to a "depression". Just 25 years ago they were also anti-"free trade" themselves.
Look at the UK liberals telling the leave voters how important "free trade" and globalization is for their country, and that economic depression will result if they don't reverse their outlook.
To be fair, we have "conservatives" telling us how great immigration is for US citizens, they're all of bunch of hypocrites.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: qman]
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Are you trying to draw parallels between Brexit and trade agreements like NAFTA?
Apples and oranges.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: Are you trying to draw parallels between Brexit and trade agreements like NAFTA?
Apples and oranges.
Yes, the actual agreements are completely different, but the rhetoric is very similar, the liberals are screaming about their fears of economic isolationism. Since when is questioning and potentially reversing existing trade agreements "isolationism"?
Little do they know that their falling standard of living is directly correlated to immigration and "free trade" agreements.
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LobsterSauce said: I'm not saying this was a deciding factor but it couldn't have helped.
http://www.thejournal.ie/france-politics-hairdresser-2877009-Jul2016/ French president's personal hairdresser paid almost €10,000 a month
I once dated a girl and I got so angry at her because she kept getting haircuts and I just lost it when she shaved her head, (we eventually broke up because of it) so reading about this guy wasting so much money on haircuts makes me insane. I go six months without a haircut and even then it's only a trim to get off split ends so it will grow more. I had four haircuts in the past two years. And they were just trims. I dislike haircuts in general actually.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: ShiVersblood]
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10 G's a month?
How is that even possible
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Apples and oranges.
Yes, the actual agreements are completely different, but the rhetoric is very similar, the liberals are screaming about their fears of economic isolationism. Since when is questioning and potentially reversing existing trade agreements "isolationism"?
Little do they know that their falling standard of living is directly correlated to immigration and "free trade" agreements.
Little do they know?
Except liberals have been against free trade for a while now. The Brexit was more about sovereignty and fear of Muslims than any trade agreement concerns. Come on.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: koods]
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Shroomslip said: If people ~cough we all know who~ don't come in here and blame the tool and instead blame the person who used this tool I'm going to flip my shit.
You guys think this is such a cool argument. 
Trucks are dangerous. That's why you have to take a test, get a license and pay insurance to operate and own one. Guns are even more dangerous, yet any fucking retard can buy one. Let's regulate guns like we do trucks 
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Niffla]
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Niffla said: 10 G's a month?
How is that even possible
Believe it or not, celebrities pay around $5,000 to $10,000 for a single haircut, sounds pretty ludicrous to me.
Also, turns out the guy driving was Tunisian. No terrorist group yet has so far claimed responsibility for the attacks.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Crystal G]
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When the fuck are we gonna ban refrigerated trucks? Surely we can just all eat beef jerky and drink warm beer, if it could save ONE life, I think it would be worth it.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: hostileuniverse]
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LOL I know I can.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: California]
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Beef jerky is an abomination to food.
I don't believe in turning meat into a leather sole.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Crystal G]
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I enjoy it, and not all is leather sole tough. Have you had deer jerky or any wild game jerky?
Well what do you have with your warm beer?
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Any support of this Terrorism is Haram.
Utterly reject this.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: California]
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California said: I enjoy it, and not all is leather sole tough. Have you had deer jerky or any wild game jerky?
Well what do you have with your warm beer?
Some types of beer, like Belgian Pilsners or German beers, are enjoyed warm.
I've had filet mignon jerky, was the softest and best jerky I had, but still kind of a shame to turn a cut like filet mignon into jerky imo. This isn't the 1600s anymore, we have refrigeration, no point in making jerky or fermenting something unless it improves the quality or taste or health benefits.
I can still get behind pickles and kim chi and saurkraut and all that.
I'd probably have a charcuterie and cheese platter with my warm beer to be honest. Pork liver pate and blood sausage and prosciutto for me.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Crystal G]
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Shall we return ontopic?
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Sure, Islam is a religion for subhumans. Islam directly and literally supports the killing of "infidels." And there is no denying it whatsoever.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Asante]
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: Are you trying to draw parallels between Brexit and trade agreements like NAFTA?
Apples and oranges.
Yes, the actual agreements are completely different, but the rhetoric is very similar, the liberals are screaming about their fears of economic isolationism. Since when is questioning and potentially reversing existing trade agreements "isolationism"?
Little do they know that their falling standard of living is directly correlated to immigration and "free trade" agreements.
Little do they know?
Except liberals have been against free trade for a while now. The Brexit was more about sovereignty and fear of Muslims than any trade agreement concerns. Come on.
Not the liberals in the UK, they were fearful of protectionism and were promoting "free trade".
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They were promoting the mutually beneficial benefits of EU membership. Its structured much different than NAFTA. The disparity between US and Mexico standard of living, the influx of laborers from South America, etc, its all different.
I understand where youre coming from, I do. People need to understand there isnt a cure all for all social problems or all economic problems. What may work in Western Europe may not work in North America.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Can't I just state that just like any member?
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
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actually it's not. having a global presence doesnt make it globalism.
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Webster10 said: Sure, Islam is a religion for subhumans. Islam directly and literally supports the killing of "infidels." And there is no denying it whatsoever.
so it's just like the other Abrahamic religions
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The Ecstatic said: Im sorry, but free trade is synonymous with globalism
actually it's not. having a global presence doesnt make it globalism.
Riiiiiight.
We need to expand free trade but not expand it globally.
Free trade!!!!!!*
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The Ecstatic said: Im sorry, but free trade is synonymous with globalism
actually it's not. having a global presence doesnt make it globalism.
Riiiiiight.
We need to expand free trade but not expand it globally.
Free trade!!!!!!*
*restricted to trade amongst nations with comparable ethnicity, standard of living. Results may vary.
expanding free trade globally isnt globalism, globalism is a political philosophy
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/globalism globalism play noun glob·al·ism \ˈglō-bə-ˌli-zəm\ Popularity: Bottom 40% of words Definition of globalism
: a national policy of treating the whole world as a proper sphere for political influence — compare imperialism, internationalism
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And the people who promote free trade arent promoting that definition just as, if not more, vigorously?
At least half the Dems know their party os corrupt, the GOP cant shovel shit into its base's mouths fast enough.
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Immigration is a dated concept,we no longer need mass manuel labor,ha!,with automation progressing exponentially daily its time for ppl to stay in their home countries and deal with the problems in their homeland,no more better life immigrants,if u deal with immigrants in your daily life do not give them work do not talk to them ,the proponents of immigration r career chickenhawk lawyers politicians who despise the majority of ppl in the usa
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5150 said: Immigration is a dated concept,we no longer need mass manuel labor,ha!,with automation progressing exponentially daily its time for ppl to stay in their home countries and deal with the problems in their homeland,no more better life immigrants,if u deal with immigrants in your daily life do not give them work do not talk to them ,the proponents of immigration r career chickenhawk lawyers politicians who despise the majority of ppl in the usa
Aka: the jobless economy is coming and we need to lock the door before all these brown people figure out whats happening.
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Not just brown ,although they r the main offenders,I,m seeing a lot of chinese and eastern euro ppl as well,slovakia,romania,ukraine,the usa grants so many student visa j1 ,a lot r not students ,its a scam,some ppl have been getting student visa for over ten years,knew of a guy in yosemite that work in the kitchens for a decade,he would laugh about the usa gov.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
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And the people who promote free trade arent promoting that definition just as, if not more, vigorously?
are you confusing free trade agreements with international sales? once more, it isnt globalism. globalism is a political philosophy
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The term "globalization" is sometimes used to refer to the much stronger modern link between the economies of different nations due to the rapid internationalization of many companies. Maybe that's where people are getting confused about: mistaking "globalism" for economic "globalization."
This kind of commercial "globalization" is just good business though, and there's nothing really new about it. Companies have been expanding and competing internationally for as long as companies have existed. It's just easier to do now with the internet and such, and as a result there's more of it.
Of course, people might bring up free trade agreements and stuff like that, but that has more to do with politics than business. From a business perspective, it just makes sense to sell to as large of a consumer base as you can, and if expanding overseas can help you do that then you do it. Same with buying materials or labor over seas. From a business perspective if it provides a superior product or costs less money (or both) then it (probably) makes sense to do. And this results in more connected economies and businesses in a way that some people call "globalization."
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nooneman said: The term "globalization" is sometimes used to refer to the much stronger modern link between the economies of different nations due to the rapid internationalization of many companies. Maybe that's where people are getting confused about: mistaking "globalism" for economic "globalization."
again that's pushed in trade agreements made by governments and it isnt good business to make different economies dependent on each other
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5150 said: Immigration is a dated concept,we no longer need mass manuel labor,ha!,with automation progressing exponentially daily its time for ppl to stay in their home countries and deal with the problems in their homeland,no more better life immigrants,if u deal with immigrants in your daily life do not give them work do not talk to them ,the proponents of immigration r career chickenhawk lawyers politicians who despise the majority of ppl in the usa
Aka: the jobless economy is coming and we need to lock the door before all these brown people figure out whats happening.
Since the US and EU already have enough of labor, why bring in immigrants? It makes zero sense.
All they are going to do is leech off of the already insolvent safety nets, those safety nets are for the native populations, not foreigners looking for a free ride.
The US didn't bring in my great grandparents to get free public housing, food stamps, health care, and education. It was to do work that was available and needed.
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90% of the population of the UAR are foreign workers, but admittedly their situation is more exceptional.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: nooneman]
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nooneman said: The term "globalization" is sometimes used to refer to the much stronger modern link between the economies of different nations due to the rapid internationalization of many companies. Maybe that's where people are getting confused about: mistaking "globalism" for economic "globalization."
This kind of commercial "globalization" is just good business though, and there's nothing really new about it. Companies have been expanding and competing internationally for as long as companies have existed. It's just easier to do now with the internet and such, and as a result there's more of it.
Of course, people might bring up free trade agreements and stuff like that, but that has more to do with politics than business. From a business perspective, it just makes sense to sell to as large of a consumer base as you can, and if expanding overseas can help you do that then you do it. Same with buying materials or labor over seas. From a business perspective if it provides a superior product or costs less money (or both) then it (probably) makes sense to do. And this results in more connected economies and businesses in a way that some people call "globalization."
"From a business perspective"
The US public doesn't give a fuck about that perspective anymore, they're coming from a wage and job perspective.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: qman]
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All those oil rich spots ,lazy as hell,be nice when they finally run out,probably all will move to miami like most of them allready do
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Plain]
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I feel like some people are trying to use the attempted military coup of turkey as some kind of distraction from the terrorist attack in France. To try and distract and divert people's attention away from it.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: ShiVersblood]
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: ShiVersblood]
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Stealth1Vampire said: I feel like some people are trying to use the attempted military coup of turkey as some kind of distraction from the terrorist attack in France. To try and distract and divert people's attention away from it.
How so?
Coups are pretty common in Turkey and this one was squashed in a day. That leads me to believe not much foresight went into the plan.
Regardless, I think the time was chosen because Erdogan was out of country and that kinda screws up chain of command.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The happened in part because of the attack in France.
Members of the military know the extent of cooperation between erdogan and Isis. After Istanbul was attacked a bit ago, and the attack in Baghdad, and Orlando and then a truck drives through a crowd in France and I think some soldiers decided enough was enough.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: ShiVersblood]
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Stealth1Vampire said: I feel like some people are trying to use the attempted military coup of turkey as some kind of distraction from the terrorist attack in France. To try and distract and divert people's attention away from it.
Lol? A coup involving thousands of soldiers and an overthrow of a government is vastly bigger news than 1 lonely arab driving a truck into people.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: twighead]
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Stealth1Vampire said: I feel like some people are trying to use the attempted military coup of turkey as some kind of distraction from the terrorist attack in France. To try and distract and divert people's attention away from it.
Lol? A coup involving thousands of soldiers and an overthrow of a government is vastly bigger news than 1 lonely arab driving a truck into people.
Lol, very true, and like the president of France said, "may as well get used to it, it ain't going to stop prolly ever" or something like that
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: twighead]
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Stealth1Vampire said: I feel like some people are trying to use the attempted military coup of turkey as some kind of distraction from the terrorist attack in France. To try and distract and divert people's attention away from it.
Lol? A coup involving thousands of soldiers and an overthrow of a government is vastly bigger news than 1 lonely arab driving a truck into people.
to the contrary, a coup in turkey is something I dint give a fuck about, let the mooslum kill each other off, and while we're at it, send the refugees back and let them help
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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That's all fine and dandy, but the chain of events still affect most of us more in one way or another than a lone terrorist.
When I visited Turkey though, lots of the people were super badass and kind ... as well as there being a shit ton of nutty nationalists
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: twighead]
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The news said like 60 people or so died during the coup. More died during the france terrorism truck attack.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: ShiVersblood]
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over 300 dead, 1500 wounded, 2800 people going to be tried for treason, etc.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: twighead]
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twighead said: That's all fine and dandy, but the chain of events still affect most of us more in one way or another than a lone terrorist.
how does it affect me, I will still be able to get a falafel if I want one
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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twighead said: That's all fine and dandy, but the chain of events still affect most of us more in one way or another than a lone terrorist.
how does it affect me, I will still be able to get a falafel if I want one
Well for one, the price of snowmobiles, turkish delights, fancy coffee, and rugs will skyrocket!
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: twighead]
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twighead said: That's all fine and dandy, but the chain of events still affect most of us more in one way or another than a lone terrorist.
how does it affect me, I will still be able to get a falafel if I want one
Well for one, the price of snowmobiles, turkish delights, fancy coffee, and rugs will skyrocket!

with how little they produce it would seem that it's merely an increase in sales for domestic manufacturing, turkish delight can be made in the home kitchens, rugs are produced in many countries and....
turkey is not a coffee producing nation
so, who's going to miss turkey... other than The Young Turks and probably some old turks
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: ShiVersblood] 1
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Stealth1Vampire said: I feel like some people are trying to use the attempted military coup of turkey as some kind of distraction from the terrorist attack in France. To try and distract and divert people's attention away from it.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Yall remember last week when some people on here were bragging about being willing to run over BLM protestors for blocking highways?
Now those same people are appalled that someone would drive a truck through a crowd of people.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: Yall remember last week when some people on here were bragging about being willing to run over BLM protestors for blocking highways?
Now those same people are appalled that someone would drive a truck through a crowd of people.
there's a bit of a difference in running down innocent people and people that chant this
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there's a bit of a difference in running down innocent people and people that chant this
Prisoner, back when I was a mod you gave me endless and appropriate reminders that words are not sticks and stones, and freedom of speech and all that.
Now you insinuate some people deserve to get killed over words they speak? What happened?
Words are just words.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Asante]
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Nobody deserves to be killed "over words"
Comparing people gathering at a celebration to people blocking fucking highways is ridiculous, if BLM wanted to hold a rally and chant where those who don't want to participate can drive by, that's great. But blocking highways so commuters can't get home to their kids, amd ambulances can't get to hospitals is completely different
So a child has to die because BLM is angry? That's not just "words"
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You guys don't know how to riot.
Here in Europe even the fire brigade riots if they want a better retirement plan and wages.
This is how you do it.
Notice the relaxed response by the riot police.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Asante]
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there's a bit of a difference in running down innocent people and people that chant this
Prisoner, back when I was a mod you gave me endless and appropriate reminders that words are not sticks and stones, and freedom of speech and all that.
Now you insinuate some people deserve to get killed over words they speak? What happened?
Words are just words.
this post doesnt insinuate that people should be run down for what they say. I did state earlier that these protesters that decide to block streets should be because unlike the Bastille day celebration their intent is to cause harm, something it has done and the protesters should have been charged with. people want to talk about how a police response to a violent thug is murder but done want to see the negligent actions of thugs as manslaughter when it costs someone their life or maybe you support the death of children due to the desire to end the lives of cops
http://www.berkeleyside.com/2014/12/19/exclusive-man-died-after-berkeley-protests-delayed-help/ http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/video-chicago-thugs-intentionally-blocking-ambulance-outside-trump-rally-trumpsfault/ http://www.dailywire.com/news/7442/black-lives-matter-protesters-block-bridge-delay-amanda-prestigiacomo
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: hostileuniverse]
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So a child has to die because BLM is angry? That's not just "words"
so black lives matters is killing children through their negligence but no one sees a problem with that, they dont see a problem with protesting on the behalf of a convicted, violent pedophile. I guess it's safe to compare them to this guy
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Protesting involves road blocks, you saw the fire brigade of Paris do it too. Protesting involves shutting down the established order to bring your case to attention.
They shouldnt be killed for that, don't you Americans have a right to protest and be rowdy? Its human nature.
Sometimes you just gotta especially when you are trying to raise awareness from the liberation of the slaves up until now.
So then you get from THIS:
Through THIS:
When the response remains THIS:
Right to #BlackLivesMatter and cops getting gunned down.
And if the cops stay pigheaded it will move right on up to THIS:
Keep preaching violence against an oppressed people who just want to be heard and they will keep on upping the ante until they either are genocided or heard.
What do you get when thousands of people take to filling bottles with gasoline, putting a rag on top and commit kamikaze attacks on every cop car they see?
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: Yall remember last week when some people on here were bragging about being willing to run over BLM protestors for blocking highways?
Now those same people are appalled that someone would drive a truck through a crowd of people.
Yeah, because it's the same situation.
Many times they pounded the cars that want to drive to their destination, that's called intimidation and damage to property, but keep on telling us that BLM is just a peaceful group of protesters.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: qman]
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The Ecstatic said: Yall remember last week when some people on here were bragging about being willing to run over BLM protestors for blocking highways?
Now those same people are appalled that someone would drive a truck through a crowd of people.
Yeah, because it's the same situation.
Many times they pounded the cars that want to drive to their destination, that's called intimidation and damage to property, but keep on telling us that BLM is just a peaceful group of protesters. 
If you stop being so scared of young black males for a moment you'd realize that the behavior you are describing occurs after every major sports match, with no social justice intent whatsoever.
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Asante said: Protesting involves road blocks, you saw the fire brigade of Paris do it too. Protesting involves shutting down the established order to bring your case to attention.
They shouldnt be killed for that, don't you Americans have a right to protest and be rowdy? Its human nature.
if being rowdy is human nature then isnt running over BLM protesters just a form of counter protest? you surely cannot sondemn a counter protest since it's held in the same fashion as a protest, something that can cost human lives
in the US we have a system in place, you get a permit, the cops show up, they shut down roads and allow the protest to progress while protecting the protesters and the rest of the public while diverting traffic to areas where they will not come into contact with the protesters. now we've already seen how violent these thugs are so when they stage their illegal protest and the put lives at risk, shouldnt it also be their lives that are at risk?
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and sometimes you just have to :fucktheblm:
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Keep preaching violence against an oppressed people who just want to be heard and they will keep on upping the ante until they either are genocided or heard.
maybe if they were actually oppressed then I could see a problem
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What do you get when thousands of people take to filling bottles with gasoline, putting a rag on top and commit kamikaze attacks on every cop car they see?
you get a lot of armed citizens shooting people with bottles of gasoline resulting in dead, burned protesters. there's a point where good people will have enough of the bullshit from these thugs and decide it's time to make a stand against them
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Asante]
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The Ecstatic said: Yall remember last week when some people on here were bragging about being willing to run over BLM protestors for blocking highways?
Now those same people are appalled that someone would drive a truck through a crowd of people.
Yeah, because it's the same situation.
Many times they pounded the cars that want to drive to their destination, that's called intimidation and damage to property, but keep on telling us that BLM is just a peaceful group of protesters. 
If you stop being so scared of young black males for a moment you'd realize that the behavior you are describing occurs after every major sports match, with no social justice intent whatsoever.
"stop being so scared of young black males"
Everyone (especially black males) should be more "scared of young black males" than any other demographic, it's called statistic commonsense.
It's the rare exception to see violent crime after a sporting event in the US, so I don't see the similarities.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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if being rowdy is human nature then isn't running over BLM protesters just a form of counter protest? you surely cannot condemn a counter protest since it's held in the same fashion as a protest, something that can cost human lives
in the US we have a system in place, you get a permit, the cops show up, they shut down roads and allow the protest to progress while protecting the protesters and the rest of the public while diverting traffic to areas where they will not come into contact with the protesters. now we've already seen how violent these thugs are so when they stage their illegal protest and the put lives at risk, shouldn't it also be their lives that are at risk?
Couldn't have said it better. There is a process to protesting.
If you're going to riot, or disrupt people's lives, I don't see anything wrong with someone disrupting yours.
Regarding riots at sports games, maybe Europeans should stop being such savages. Hypocrisy at its finest.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: qman]
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Everyone (especially black males) should be more "scared of young black males" than any other demographic, it's called statistic commonsense.
Personally the demographics of violent offenders, trump supporters and sociopaths worry me a great deal more.
What you're echoing is the racism meme "around blacks, never relax" which is a bunch of nonsense.
Ask Patlal about his experiences with african immigrants.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Asante]
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you mean about that time you claimed he was racist and one of his tenents was racist because that tenent almost stabbed a black man and you said he only did it because the guy was black
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Everyone (especially black males) should be more "scared of young black males" than any other demographic, it's called statistic commonsense.
Personally the demographics of violent offenders, trump supporters and sociopaths worry me a great deal more.
What you're echoing is the racism meme "around blacks, never relax" which is a bunch of nonsense.
Ask Patlal about his experiences with african immigrants.
Well who is the "demographic of violent offenders"? It's most likely a male, more likely young, and even more likely black. 
"trump supporters" Or potential voters are good people that want to make America great again! They're not violent.
Most blacks are fine, I know of several in the pool halls that I play at, we are always relaxed!
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Asante]
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like with this, clearly you were joking since the violence is directed at trump supporters, sometimes resulting in the deaths of children, but the killing or raping of children is apparently what liberals around here are in favor of
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What you're echoing is the racism meme "around blacks, never relax" which is a bunch of nonsense.
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Tell that to the ones that relaxed.
You can't.
They're dead.
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Citing statistics is akin to using "racist memes" so it's just alot easier to face the accusation with indifference.
When "you're racist" is the inevitable rebuttal you might as well get it out of the way.
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And it's wrong then as well.
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Yes but somehow people don't feel as threatened by it and are not as determined that the police should stomp out the menace.
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Asante said: Yes but somehow people don't feel as threatened by it and are not as determined that the police should stomp out the menace.
Hmm, it's apples and oranges. Flipping over a few cars after some team wins the Stanley Cup really isn't the same as a dangerous political movement.
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Hmm, it's apples and oranges. Flipping over a few cars after some team wins the Stanley Cup really isn't the same as a dangerous political movement.
Equality is a dangerous political movement?
People have been making these arguments as a smokescreen for bigotry in virtually every single civil rights movement in this nation's history.
Amazing that people think you reach the epitome of equality a generation after our apartheid system. Southerners cant even get over the rebel flag and that was 230 years ago, blacks are supposed to to forego social progress because we started letting them use our water fountains in the 70s.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Seems there are a lot of black people that don't agree with BLM either, but it's only the ones that do support it whose opinions are accurate? Are you just scared of being called a racist if you don't support it or something? Black people that don't support BLM tend to be more for equality than the blood thirsty black people who support BLM that cheer when some white people die in the name of "equality."
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Eminence said: Seems there are a lot of black people that don't agree with BLM either, but it's only the ones that do support it whose opinions are accurate? Are you just scared of being called a racist if you don't support it or something? Black people that don't support BLM tend to be more for equality than the blood thirsty black people who support BLM that cheer when some white people die in the name of "equality."
Why do people have to fall for the false dichotomy every single time?
Are there violent blacka who support BLM? Yes.
Are there violent blacks who dont support BLM? Yes
Are there violent whites who do? Yes. Dont? Yes.
If you think labelling an entire group as blood thirsty because theres a youtube video of a few peoppe celebrating a policeman being murdered is going to help things, youre just as bad as those you would call blood thirsty. Youre not helping. They arent helping.
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Asante said: Yes but somehow people don't feel as threatened by it and are not as determined that the police should stomp out the menace.
Hmm, it's apples and oranges. Flipping over a few cars after some team wins the Stanley Cup really isn't the same as a dangerous political movement.
Equality is a dangerous political movement?
People have been making these arguments as a smokescreen for bigotry in virtually every single civil rights movement in this nation's history.
Amazing that people think you reach the epitome of equality a generation after our apartheid system. Southerners cant even get over the rebel flag and that was 230 years ago, blacks are supposed to to forego social progress because we started letting them use our water fountains in the 70s.
"Equality is a dangerous political movement"
In many ways it is because those movements are looking for equality of outcomes even when they have the same civil rights and liberties as everyone else, there will NEVER be equality of outcomes for all people.
Are there equal rights and protection under the law? Yes. Are there equal outcomes for arrests, incarcerations, education, and wealth? No, that no longer means "equality" isn't taking place, correlation isn't causation.
Having an aggressive and violent movement that demands equality of outcomes because racism is the only factor preventing that goal is a dangerous movement. I got news for you, this movement can't win the war it wants to wage, they just don't know it yet.
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Nobody is arguing for equality of outcome, nice red herring.
Civil rights laws exist, but there are many laws in place that still disproportionately affect african americans. And even if there wasnt, theres ample proof that blacks are treated more harshly for the same crimes and actions than whites.
Do you honestly believe race relations shouldve been 100% when LBJ was in office? Half this nation believes Obama is a Kenyan Muslim. Is there a law against a black man being president? No. Is there half a nation who believes he shouldnt be? Yes. Can you honestly tell me nobody with that belief holds public office? Sits on the bench? Is a police officer? Witness? Juror? Come on, now.
A problem clearly exists. You can write it off just like every other generation of antagonists did as "uppity minorities wanting special treatment," and history will remember you as such.
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And its not just a justice system problem either. Its the rigged economic system against the poor, which keeps minorities especially trapped with no mobility, no opportunities. No more decent union labor jobs, no more decent public schools, the list goes on and on.
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The Ecstatic said: And its not just a justice system problem either. Its the rigged economic system against the poor, which keeps minorities especially trapped with no mobility, no opportunities. No more decent union labor jobs, no more decent public schools, the list goes on and on.
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There are plenty of those
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People don't like Obama because he's shit, you're way overblowing the amount of people who don't want him to be president because he's black. You just said it yourself, those people are way more concerned about him being a Kenyan Muslim than him being a black man. You're just enabling a bunch of idiots with that kind of mindset
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The Ecstatic said: Nobody is arguing for equality of outcome, nice red herring.
Civil rights laws exist, but there are many laws in place that still disproportionately affect african americans. And even if there wasnt, theres ample proof that blacks are treated more harshly for the same crimes and actions than whites.
Do you honestly believe race relations shouldve been 100% when LBJ was in office? Half this nation believes Obama is a Kenyan Muslim. Is there a law against a black man being president? No. Is there half a nation who believes he shouldnt be? Yes. Can you honestly tell me nobody with that belief holds public office? Sits on the bench? Is a police officer? Witness? Juror? Come on, now.
A problem clearly exists. You can write it off just like every other generation of antagonists did as "uppity minorities wanting special treatment," and history will remember you as such.
"blacks are treated more harshly for the same crimes and actions than whites"
So there's a conspiracy to punish blacks over whites? Is this the same conspiracy to punish poor over rich? Or the same conspiracy to punish young over old, or male over female?
Or are you and others ignoring everything else except for race? That would make people a racist.
"Nobody with that belief?"
What belief? That Obama is a incompetent racist moron? Now you want to control people's opinions of the world around them because you disagree with it?
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There is a discrepancy, so you cry descrimination? You know that isn't just saying there is a problem? You are calling people raciest. Maybe people don't sign up and stay at home doing nothing? It isn't that expensive, places will get you help. We don't teach kids well enough about finding careers that suit them, especially of far away.
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You think the people who believe hes a kenyan muslim has nothing to do with discriminatory beliefs about blacks (kenyans are blacks btw)?
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Eminence said: People don't like Obama because he's shit, you're way overblowing the amount of people who don't want him to be president because he's black. You just said it yourself, those people are way more concerned about him being a Kenyan Muslim than him being a black man. You're just enabling a bunch of idiots with that kind of mindset
You think the people who believe hes a kenyan muslim has nothing to do with discriminatory beliefs about blacks (kenyans are blacks btw)?
Most people dislike Obama because he's a racist fucktard, it has NOTHING to do with "Kenyan muslim".
Do you forget you put and voted Obama into Office?
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The Ecstatic said: Nobody is arguing for equality of outcome, nice red herring.
Civil rights laws exist, but there are many laws in place that still disproportionately affect african americans. And even if there wasnt, theres ample proof that blacks are treated more harshly for the same crimes and actions than whites.
Do you honestly believe race relations shouldve been 100% when LBJ was in office? Half this nation believes Obama is a Kenyan Muslim. Is there a law against a black man being president? No. Is there half a nation who believes he shouldnt be? Yes. Can you honestly tell me nobody with that belief holds public office? Sits on the bench? Is a police officer? Witness? Juror? Come on, now.
A problem clearly exists. You can write it off just like every other generation of antagonists did as "uppity minorities wanting special treatment," and history will remember you as such.
"blacks are treated more harshly for the same crimes and actions than whites"
So there's a conspiracy to punish blacks over whites? Is this the same conspiracy to punish poor over rich? Or the same conspiracy to punish young over old, or male over female?
Or are you and others ignoring everything else except for race? That would make people a racist.
"Nobody with that belief?"
What belief? That Obama is a incompetent racist moron? Now you want to control people's opinions of the world around them because you disagree with it?
It doesnt have to be a conspiracy. The Rockefeller drug laws for example, target minorities and punish them more strictly simply because the cocaine they typically sold was in rock form. Whether or not the law was made intentionally to target minorities (rather than just crack) is irrelevant to the consequences of the law and the need for its reform.
Its almost like the right's attack on voter rights laws nowadays. The GOP (typically) is using what even SCOTUS deems as legal means to purposefully disenfranchise the votes of "unfriendly" voters. We dont need to take the GOP to court and make them admit to being racist on the stand, we just need to change the fucking laws.
Just like we need civilian oversight, and automatic federal inquiries into officer-related homicides. Body cameras wouldnt be the end of the world, either. Do I need to prove all these things need to happen because of racism? Or can you just accept they all make sense and move on?
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Eminence said: People don't like Obama because he's shit, you're way overblowing the amount of people who don't want him to be president because he's black. You just said it yourself, those people are way more concerned about him being a Kenyan Muslim than him being a black man. You're just enabling a bunch of idiots with that kind of mindset
You think the people who believe hes a kenyan muslim has nothing to do with discriminatory beliefs about blacks (kenyans are blacks btw)?
Most people dislike Obama because he's a racist fucktard, it has NOTHING to do with "Kenyan muslim".
Do you forget you put and voted Obama into Office?
For someone who hates the race card i see you call more people racist than anyone else on this board.
Whatever you believe, a significant portion of the population dislikes Obama on discriminatory grounds.
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You think the people who believe hes a kenyan muslim has nothing to do with discriminatory beliefs about blacks (kenyans are blacks btw)?
I've never heard people who complain about that mention that it has anything to do with Kenyans being black, those people are always complaining that he wasn't born in America so he's unfit to be the president. You're the one making it about race here
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The Ecstatic said: Nobody is arguing for equality of outcome, nice red herring.
Civil rights laws exist, but there are many laws in place that still disproportionately affect african americans. And even if there wasnt, theres ample proof that blacks are treated more harshly for the same crimes and actions than whites.
Do you honestly believe race relations shouldve been 100% when LBJ was in office? Half this nation believes Obama is a Kenyan Muslim. Is there a law against a black man being president? No. Is there half a nation who believes he shouldnt be? Yes. Can you honestly tell me nobody with that belief holds public office? Sits on the bench? Is a police officer? Witness? Juror? Come on, now.
A problem clearly exists. You can write it off just like every other generation of antagonists did as "uppity minorities wanting special treatment," and history will remember you as such.
"blacks are treated more harshly for the same crimes and actions than whites"
So there's a conspiracy to punish blacks over whites? Is this the same conspiracy to punish poor over rich? Or the same conspiracy to punish young over old, or male over female?
Or are you and others ignoring everything else except for race? That would make people a racist.
"Nobody with that belief?"
What belief? That Obama is a incompetent racist moron? Now you want to control people's opinions of the world around them because you disagree with it?
It doesnt have to be a conspiracy. The Rockefeller drug laws for example, target minorities and punish them more strictly simply because the cocaine they typically sold was in rock form. Whether or not the law was made intentionally to target minorities (rather than just crack) is irrelevant to the consequences of the law and the need for its reform.
Its almost like the right's attack on voter rights laws nowadays. The GOP (typically) is using what even SCOTUS deems as legal means to purposefully disenfranchise the votes of "unfriendly" voters. We dont need to take the GOP to court and make them admit to being racist on the stand, we just need to change the fucking laws.
Just like we need civilian oversight, and automatic federal inquiries into officer-related homicides. Body cameras wouldnt be the end of the world, either. Do I need to prove all these things need to happen because of racism? Or can you just accept they all make sense and move on?
So why make the platform for change about racism? Do you really think it's going to accomplish anything dividing people who share the same views based on race? The movement is cutting their own throats with their racist rhetoric.
You're right with them, creating a division based on race, that's called being a race baiter.
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Eminence said: People don't like Obama because he's shit, you're way overblowing the amount of people who don't want him to be president because he's black. You just said it yourself, those people are way more concerned about him being a Kenyan Muslim than him being a black man. You're just enabling a bunch of idiots with that kind of mindset
You think the people who believe hes a kenyan muslim has nothing to do with discriminatory beliefs about blacks (kenyans are blacks btw)?
Most people dislike Obama because he's a racist fucktard, it has NOTHING to do with "Kenyan muslim".
Do you forget you put and voted Obama into Office?
For someone who hates the race card i see you call more people racist than anyone else on this board.
Whatever you believe, a significant portion of the population dislikes Obama on discriminatory grounds.
So be it, many people hate Trump based on the same "discriminatory grounds". I didn't hear Bush complaining about people disliking him because he was a old WASP male.
I dislike Obama because he's a sellout and a racist.
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You think the people who believe hes a kenyan muslim has nothing to do with discriminatory beliefs about blacks (kenyans are blacks btw)?
I've never heard people who complain about that mention that it has anything to do with Kenyans being black, those people are always complaining that he wasn't born in America so he's unfit to be the president. You're the one making it about race here
Of course he is, people don't even know about this Kenyan nonsense.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Eminence]
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Eminence said: People don't like Obama because he's shit, you're way overblowing the amount of people who don't want him to be president because he's black. You just said it yourself, those people are way more concerned about him being a Kenyan Muslim than him being a black man. You're just enabling a bunch of idiots with that kind of mindset
You think the people who believe hes a kenyan muslim has nothing to do with discriminatory beliefs about blacks (kenyans are blacks btw)?
I've never heard people who complain about that mention that it has anything to do with Kenyans being black, those people are always complaining that he wasn't born in America so he's unfit to be the president. You're the one making it about race here
Im only asking for people to acknowledge that race is still an issue for a significant number of Americans. Nothing more.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
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@qman, like ive said: the arguments you use are old ones. Why are they old? Because they can be applied to any sociopolitical movement in history.
"Theyre hurting their own cause." "Theyre the ones who are racist/sexist/bigoted." "Theyre violent rabble rousers with no clear objective."
These cherrypicked incidences and the arguments used therein are classics for a reason, it goes all the way to COINTELPRO. You dont need facts, dont need opposing arguments, you just need a few bad apples to he highlighted so you can label them all as such and discredit their arguments without making any of their own.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
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"Theyre hurting their own cause." "Theyre the ones who are racist/sexist/bigoted." "Theyre violent rabble rousers with no clear objective."
These cherrypicked incidences and the arguments used therein are classics for a reason, it goes all the way to COINTELPRO. You dont need facts, dont need opposing arguments, you just need a few bad apples to he highlighted so you can label them all as such and discredit their arguments without making any of their own.
That's based on the theory that every sociopolitical movement has legitimate grievances and doesn't have other motives than they advertise.
BLM was founded upon a lies and misinformation, and as a result it create a false narrative, did Obama ever apologize for jumping on the media bandwagon and falsely prejudging the Martin and Brown cases? NOPE.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: qman]
#23453247 - 07/18/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nice attack: France's history of 'civilising' North Africa has catalysed radicalisation
Soon after the Brussels terror attack, New Statesman spoke to some Muslims and the Imam of a temporary mosque in Toulouse to understand how they were coping. The replies reflected an atmosphere of fear and discrimination that prevails in France against the Muslims. A number of people are critical of the the role immigration has played in bringing Islam to France, while others like the mayor of a French town are taking a bit more of a an extreme stand: Urging a ban on Muslims and the demolition their makeshift homes. Authorities investigate the truck after it plowed through Bastille Day revelers in Nice, France. APAuthorities investigate the truck after it plowed through Bastille Day revelers in Nice, France. AP According to a report by the Brookings Institute, most Muslims in France came from North Africa, particularly Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia. Colonial history Many parts of North Africa were French colonies. France’s domestic and foreign policy towards the country sowed the seeds of division between the Muslims and the non-Muslims, which is still plaguing the society. It echoes “The horror! The horror!” of Joseph Conrad’s The Heart of Darkness. The phrase refers to the imperial policy and the exploitation that happened in the colonies by the colonisers. The colonised people are seen as ‘savages’ and ‘beasts’. The French rule over North Africa mirrors the situation in any other country which was colonised and robbed of its resources. According to a piece in The Federalist, the French colonial rule in North Africa was seen as a “civilising mission” to help the natives. The French brought their wealth and secular society to North Africa as a “civilised” alternative to the Muslim way of life. Most of France’s wealth today has been seized from the colonised people of Polynesia and Senegal, according to Boston Globe. In 1830, France conquered Algeria and soon after World War I, it took control of Syria and Lebanon and some French settled in North Africa, a Time article said. However, after World War II, North Africans came to France to work in new factories, settling in the poor areas. The Algerian war for independence in 1962 was bloody and brutal. The North African immigrants have however, not forgotten their roots and are aware of the history of their country. Some of them harbour much resentment against the French. It's worth pointing out that the people who attacked the office of Charlie Hebdo were of Algerian descent. However, The New Yorker quoted Ben Ahmed, of Algerian and Tunisian descent, soon after the Charlie Hebdo attack as saying “My French heart bleeds, my Muslim soul weeps. Nothing, absolutely nothing, can justify these barbaric acts.” Ahmed works as a liason between residents and the local government in Bondy – a suburb in an area called Department 93. Muslim ghettos This area is full of Arab and African-origin residents. The French look at it as a hub of crime, poverty, social isolation and unemployment. Suburbs dominated by Muslims are often viewed with contempt and suspicion in France. Ahmed wrote an open letter to President François Hollande titled 'All Partly Responsible, but Not Guilty'. He wrote about the problems of joblessness and discrimination. These Muslim ghettos are isolated from the city. The Washington Times refers to a study by a think-tank Institute Montaigne that described the Muslim ghettos as “wasteland of the deindustrialisation” or “radical rejection of France”. On 13 July, Mayor of French town Calais, Natacha Bouchart said that the refugee camp in the town would be demolished very soon, The Independent reported. There are around 4,500 refugees in the area, mostly from North Africa. France is seen by its critics as a country that continues to meddle economically and militarily to defend its interests in Africa. And its policy of segregation against the Muslims years after its “civilising” mission in North Africa has quite possibly alienated the Muslim youth and sown the seeds of jihad in them. http://www.firstpost.com/world/nice-attack-frances-history-of-civilising-north-africa-has-catalysed-radicalisation-2895034.html
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: qman]
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"Theyre hurting their own cause." "Theyre the ones who are racist/sexist/bigoted." "Theyre violent rabble rousers with no clear objective."
These cherrypicked incidences and the arguments used therein are classics for a reason, it goes all the way to COINTELPRO. You dont need facts, dont need opposing arguments, you just need a few bad apples to he highlighted so you can label them all as such and discredit their arguments without making any of their own.
That's based on the theory that every sociopolitical movement has legitimate grievances and doesn't have other motives than they advertise.
BLM was founded upon a lies and misinformation, and as a result it create a false narrative, did Obama ever apologize for jumping on the media bandwagon and falsely prejudging the Martin and Brown cases? NOPE.
How is that a theory?
Every sociopolitical movement IS grounded on legitimate grievances. Hell, even the Third Reich was. The Bolshevik Revolution. And on and on. Opportunists will hijack these movements at will and use them to their own ends, which is exactly my point: its a lot easier for you to say none of them know what the fuck theyre talking about, lest youre forced to seriously entertain those grievances.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: @qman, like ive said: the arguments you use are old ones. Why are they old? Because they can be applied to any sociopolitical movement in history.
"Theyre hurting their own cause." "Theyre the ones who are racist/sexist/bigoted." "Theyre violent rabble rousers with no clear objective."
These cherrypicked incidences and the arguments used therein are classics for a reason, it goes all the way to COINTELPRO. You dont need facts, dont need opposing arguments, you just need a few bad apples to he highlighted so you can label them all as such and discredit their arguments without making any of their own.
That's based on the theory that every sociopolitical movement has legitimate grievances and doesn't have other motives than they advertise.
BLM was founded upon a lies and misinformation, and as a result it create a false narrative, did Obama ever apologize for jumping on the media bandwagon and falsely prejudging the Martin and Brown cases? NOPE.
How is that a theory?
Every sociopolitical movement IS grounded on legitimate grievances. Hell, even the Third Reich was. The Bolshevik Revolution. And on and on. Opportunists will hijack these movements at will and use them to their own ends, which is exactly my point: its a lot easier for you to say none of them know what the fuck theyre talking about, lest youre forced to seriously entertain those grievances.
When I find obvious inconsistencies and hypocrisy in those potential "grievances", I point them out.
Why can't the movement be based on pointing out the injustices in the criminal justice system that affect ALL US citizens? Why does it have to be a white cop vs black suspect narrative that the media promotes?
Why should I entertain sensationalism created by the media? That's not the foundation of a serious political movement with serious grievances, it's the foundation of a movement hijacked by a bunch of racist thugs.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: qman]
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Yeah why do black people have to focus on issues involving themselves?
Theyd have so much more credibility were they equally concerned about whites.
This is exactly the kind of backwards bs im talking about. Youre supposed to shed light on a specific grievance, but it cant be too specific otherwise its invalid...right.
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What thread is this?
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It's the 'some people have no better arguments to make so they call others racist' thread.
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Racist!
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Plain]
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23453663 - 07/18/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Yeah why do black people have to focus on issues involving themselves?
Theyd have so much more credibility were they equally concerned about whites.
This is exactly the kind of backwards bs im talking about. Youre supposed to shed light on a specific grievance, but it cant be too specific otherwise its invalid...right.
"backwards bs im talking about."
You mean suggesting that all lives matter is bs?
Suggesting the whites, Hispanics, and Asians are also victims of police abuse is BS as well?
"too specific otherwise its invalid"
In cases like police abuse the answer is yes. Have you not noticed the BLM is a failure that's eventually going to labeled a terrorist organization?
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23453667 - 07/18/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im only asking for people to acknowledge that race is still an issue for a significant number of Americans. Nothing more.
You're asking for people to acknowledge an untruth, anti-black racism is all but dead in America.
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Ironic coming from someone who wants to elbow in more affirmative action, more safety vests, more priority.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Repertoire89]
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I'm not a PC-ist or a BLM supporter by any means but if you think anti-black racism is all but dead I implore you to go to the south... or idaho 
It's nearly a way of life
Anti-white is just as strong in the south too though 
We should just cut ties, that region pulls the entire country down in a good few ways.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: qman]
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What im saying is that your argument makes no sense because you cant help contradicting yourself.
Is the JDL without merit because they dont protect Muslims?
Is the ACLU without merit because they dont do work in Russia?
What youre doing is taking the specific grievance you demanded, and saying "heh, if you really cared about (issue), youd care how it affects everyone."
Im sure youre on your way now to boycott the Holocaust Museum as it focuses to specifically on Jewish suffering and not the other (albeit less affected) groups demonized by the Third Reich. Right?
Your argument is dogshit. Youll interpret BLM to be, say, advocate however you will, i could really give a fuck. There are probably 50 million mouth breathers who take up the tag lines just as easily. Dime a dozen.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Repertoire89]
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Im only asking for people to acknowledge that race is still an issue for a significant number of Americans. Nothing more.
You're asking for people to acknowledge an untruth, anti-black racism is all but dead in America.
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The Ecstatic said: Back to your safe spaces
Ironic coming from someone who wants to elbow in more affirmative action, more safety vests, more priority.

People like you are why BLM exists.
Because there are legitimate morons in this country who think racism is a myth.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Are you one of those people that believe that in America, only white people can be racist? Because idk if you noticed but a lot of these people in BLM are happy about specifically white cops being targeted. What makes a white cop racist anyway if he ends up shooting a black guy? Is he automatically racist because of their skin color? How many cops call black people niggers before they shoot them? Compare that to how many have their weapon reached for or have one pointed at them first before they shoot a black guy. Is it racist to notice patterns among certain groups of people? If I say that black people have been shown to commit a disproportionate amount of crime compared to white people or Asian people does that make me a racist or someone who acknowledges statistics?
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It's nearly a way of life
Anti-white is just as strong in the south too though 
We should just cut ties, that region pulls the entire country down in a good few ways.
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People like you are why BLM exists.
Because there are legitimate morons in this country who think racism is a myth.
I've spent the majority of my life in the south, living in various states and cities.
Unlike most of the people in the pub I'm not an anti-social either, I get around and I've hardly seen any racism in this country.
You people think anti-black racism is still going strong in America, because you're soft and don't know what real discrimination is.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Eminence]
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Twig ive lived in the south my entire life, racism is alive and well.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Is the JDL without merit because they dont protect Muslims?
Is the ACLU without merit because they dont do work in Russia?
What youre doing is taking the specific grievance you demanded, and saying "heh, if you really cared about (issue), youd care how it affects everyone."
Im sure youre on your way now to boycott the Holocaust Museum as it focuses to specifically on Jewish suffering and not the other (albeit less affected) groups demonized by the Third Reich. Right?
Your argument is dogshit. Youll interpret BLM to be, say, advocate however you will, i could really give a fuck. There are probably 50 million mouth breathers who take up the tag lines just as easily. Dime a dozen.
There is no evidence that blacks are dis proportionally affected by police misconduct when resisting arrest and criminal activity is taken into consideration, that's why it's stupid to make a movement about police misconduct specific to just black people.
Because at the end of the day this movement is NOT ultimately concerned about the safety of black people, it's about getting more political power.
Movements like BLM are going to put people like Trump into power, be careful what you wish for, a backlash is not only real, it's inevitable.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: qman]
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: qman]
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Not to the vast majority of cops, judges, juries, district attorney's, Congressmen, Senators, and US citizens.
Having more blacks arrested, convicted, incarcerated, and kill by cops doesn't mean it's not justified.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: qman]
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Actually, when they are aquitted in a court of law, it does
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Actually, when they are aquitted in a court of law, it does
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Laws, juries and constitutional rights apply to every American. Even OJ.
Well... maybe not to Hillary.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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The Ecstatic said: Like OJ?
Laws, juries and constitutional rights apply to every American. Even OJ.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#23455482 - 07/19/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Like OJ?
Laws, juries and constitutional rights apply to every American. Even OJ.
Well... maybe not to Hillary.
So it follows that the justice system must not be perfect.
And yet we bitch and moan when the most affected groups want reform.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23455488 - 07/19/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
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The Ecstatic said: Like OJ?
Laws, juries and constitutional rights apply to every American. Even OJ.
Well... maybe not to Hillary.
So it follows that the justice system must not be perfect.
no, hillary shows there's a lot of corruption in the obama administration
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And yet we bitch and moan when the most affected groups want reform.
who is the most affected group and what are they affected by?
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#23455500 - 07/19/16 09:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
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The Ecstatic said: Like OJ?
Laws, juries and constitutional rights apply to every American. Even OJ.
Well... maybe not to Hillary.
So it follows that the justice system must not be perfect.
And yet we bitch and moan when the most affected groups want reform.
The bitching and moaning comes when some groups want to be treated like special snowflakes.
If you do the crime or resist arrest... you've made your own bed and have no place bitching that there are more of your special snowflakes getting arrested or shot.
They'd be better off bitching when there actually is a problem. Start by not immediately assuming the arrests and shootings are based on race.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#23455519 - 07/19/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
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The Ecstatic said: Like OJ?
Laws, juries and constitutional rights apply to every American. Even OJ.
Well... maybe not to Hillary.
So it follows that the justice system must not be perfect.
And yet we bitch and moan when the most affected groups want reform.
Does BLM want reform? Or are they just a racist terrorist movement?
They want the Michael Brown's of the world to be able to physically attack a store owner, punch a cop and then try to kill him, and then get a little slap on the wrist. What kind of fucked up reform is that nonsense?
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: qman] 1
#23455523 - 07/19/16 09:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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And yet we bitch and moan when the most affected groups want reform.
Does BLM want reform?
I want to know who the most affected group is and what they're affected by
but then I'm not the BLM and what I want doesnt count
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Prisoner#1]
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There are lots of affected groups. Basically anyone who's ever been wronged by the justice system.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#23455626 - 07/19/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said:
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The Ecstatic said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
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The Ecstatic said: Like OJ?
Laws, juries and constitutional rights apply to every American. Even OJ.
Well... maybe not to Hillary.
So it follows that the justice system must not be perfect.
And yet we bitch and moan when the most affected groups want reform.
The bitching and moaning comes when some groups want to be treated like special snowflakes.
If you do the crime or resist arrest... you've made your own bed and have no place bitching that there are more of your special snowflakes getting arrested or shot.
They'd be better off bitching when there actually is a problem. Start by not immediately assuming the arrests and shootings are based on race.
There are millions of people who would give Hillary the same defense: there isnt actually a problem. She followed the law, etc.
Either way by pointing out her debacle, youve admitted there are flaws. Who do you think the justice system is more likely ro bend for: impending potus 1%er or poor minority? We both know the answer.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23457847 - 07/19/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: There are lots of affected groups. Basically anyone who's ever been wronged by the justice system.
horse shit... what groups are most affected, name them
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23457863 - 07/19/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: There are millions of people who would give Hillary the same defense: there isnt actually a problem. She followed the law, etc.
no, she didnt follow the law, she claimed she was too stupid to know any better and she's too well connected and corrupt, if she's too stupid to figure out her email then how is she mart enough to run a country. oh right, because her former boss is still her buddy and he controls the show
and back to relevance of the thread
http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/19/mother-and-three-daughters-stabbed-in-french-resort-for-being-scantily-dressed-6016072/
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23458592 - 07/20/16 06:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: There are millions of people who would give Hillary the same defense: there isnt actually a problem. She followed the law, etc.
no, she didnt follow the law, she claimed she was too stupid to know any better and she's too well connected and corrupt, if she's too stupid to figure out her email then how is she mart enough to run a country. oh right, because her former boss is still her buddy and he controls the show
and back to relevance of the thread
http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/19/mother-and-three-daughters-stabbed-in-french-resort-for-being-scantily-dressed-6016072/
Either Hillary got off because shes innocent or because there are flaws with our justice system.
Pick one.
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The Ecstatic said: There are lots of affected groups. Basically anyone who's ever been wronged by the justice system.
horse shit... what groups are most affected, name them
Thatd be a matter of opinion to most.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23458662 - 07/20/16 07:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Either Hillary got off because shes innocent or because there are flaws with our justice system.
Pick one.
false dichotomy
the FBI and hillary clinton are corrupt, James Comey is in her pocket because her good friend Barack likes to micromanage what goes on in the justice department and her powerful, former president husband also met with members of the justice department secretly just a few days prior to the hearing
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CLINTON: "I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material." News conference, March 2015.
THE FACTS: Actually, the FBI identified at least 113 emails that passed through Clinton's server and contained materials that were classified at the time they were sent, including some that were Top Secret and referred to a highly classified special access program, Comey said.
Most of those emails — 110 of them — were included among 30,000 emails that Clinton returned to the State Department around the time her use of a private email server was discovered. The three others were recovered from a forensic analysis of Clinton's server. "Any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton's position or in the position of those with whom she was corresponding about the matters should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation," Comey said. Clinton and her aides "were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information," he said.
CLINTON: "I never received nor sent any material that was marked classified." NBC interview, July 2016.
THE FACTS: Clinton has separately clung to her rationale that there were no classification markings on her emails that would have warned her and others not to transmit the sensitive material. But the private system did, in fact, handle emails that bore markings indicating they contained classified information, Comey said.
He said the marked emails were "a very small number." But that's not the only standard for judging how officials handle sensitive material, he added. "Even if information is not marked classified in an email, participants who know, or should know, that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it."
CLINTON: "I responded right away and provided all my emails that could possibly be work related" to the State Department. News conference, March 2015.
THE FACTS: Not so, the FBI found.
Comey said that when his forensic team examined Clinton's server it found there were "several thousand work-related emails that were not in the group of 30,000" that had been returned by Clinton to the State Department.
CLINTON: "I thought it would be easier to carry just one device for my work and for personal emails instead of two." News conference, March 2015.
THE FACTS: This reasoning for using private email both for public business and private correspondence didn't hold up in the investigation. Clinton "used numerous mobile devices to view and send email" using her personal account, Comey said. He also said Clinton had used different servers.
http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-email-fact-check-2016-7
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The Ecstatic said: There are lots of affected groups. Basically anyone who's ever been wronged by the justice system.
horse shit... what groups are most affected, name them
Thatd be a matter of opinion to most.
your claims, now back it up. who are the most affected groups and how are they affected
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The Ecstatic said: So it follows that the justice system must not be perfect.
And yet we bitch and moan when the most affected groups want reform.
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