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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23444566 - 07/15/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Are you trying to draw parallels between Brexit and trade agreements like NAFTA?
Apples and oranges.
Yes, the actual agreements are completely different, but the rhetoric is very similar, the liberals are screaming about their fears of economic isolationism. Since when is questioning and potentially reversing existing trade agreements "isolationism"?
Little do they know that their falling standard of living is directly correlated to immigration and "free trade" agreements.
Little do they know?
Except liberals have been against free trade for a while now. The Brexit was more about sovereignty and fear of Muslims than any trade agreement concerns. Come on.
Not the liberals in the UK, they were fearful of protectionism and were promoting "free trade".
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: qman]
#23444678 - 07/15/16 05:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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They were promoting the mutually beneficial benefits of EU membership. Its structured much different than NAFTA. The disparity between US and Mexico standard of living, the influx of laborers from South America, etc, its all different.
I understand where youre coming from, I do. People need to understand there isnt a cure all for all social problems or all economic problems. What may work in Western Europe may not work in North America.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23444689 - 07/15/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Can't I just state that just like any member?
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23445133 - 07/15/16 08:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Im sorry, but free trade is synonymous with globalism
actually it's not. having a global presence doesnt make it globalism.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Webster10] 1
#23445144 - 07/15/16 08:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Webster10 said: Sure, Islam is a religion for subhumans. Islam directly and literally supports the killing of "infidels." And there is no denying it whatsoever.
so it's just like the other Abrahamic religions
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#23445147 - 07/15/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Im sorry, but free trade is synonymous with globalism
actually it's not. having a global presence doesnt make it globalism.
Riiiiiight.
We need to expand free trade but not expand it globally.
Free trade!!!!!!*
*restricted to trade amongst nations with comparable ethnicity, standard of living. Results may vary.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#23445155 - 07/15/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Im sorry, but free trade is synonymous with globalism
actually it's not. having a global presence doesnt make it globalism.
Riiiiiight.
We need to expand free trade but not expand it globally.
Free trade!!!!!!*
*restricted to trade amongst nations with comparable ethnicity, standard of living. Results may vary.
expanding free trade globally isnt globalism, globalism is a political philosophy
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/globalism globalism play noun glob·al·ism \ˈglō-bə-ˌli-zəm\ Popularity: Bottom 40% of words Definition of globalism
: a national policy of treating the whole world as a proper sphere for political influence — compare imperialism, internationalism
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#23445173 - 07/15/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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And the people who promote free trade arent promoting that definition just as, if not more, vigorously?
At least half the Dems know their party os corrupt, the GOP cant shovel shit into its base's mouths fast enough.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23445200 - 07/15/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Immigration is a dated concept,we no longer need mass manuel labor,ha!,with automation progressing exponentially daily its time for ppl to stay in their home countries and deal with the problems in their homeland,no more better life immigrants,if u deal with immigrants in your daily life do not give them work do not talk to them ,the proponents of immigration r career chickenhawk lawyers politicians who despise the majority of ppl in the usa
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: 5150] 1
#23445201 - 07/15/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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5150 said: Immigration is a dated concept,we no longer need mass manuel labor,ha!,with automation progressing exponentially daily its time for ppl to stay in their home countries and deal with the problems in their homeland,no more better life immigrants,if u deal with immigrants in your daily life do not give them work do not talk to them ,the proponents of immigration r career chickenhawk lawyers politicians who despise the majority of ppl in the usa
Aka: the jobless economy is coming and we need to lock the door before all these brown people figure out whats happening.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23445223 - 07/15/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't be that guy that has to make it about skin color
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23445230 - 07/15/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not just brown ,although they r the main offenders,I,m seeing a lot of chinese and eastern euro ppl as well,slovakia,romania,ukraine,the usa grants so many student visa j1 ,a lot r not students ,its a scam,some ppl have been getting student visa for over ten years,knew of a guy in yosemite that work in the kitchens for a decade,he would laugh about the usa gov.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23445231 - 07/15/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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And the people who promote free trade arent promoting that definition just as, if not more, vigorously?
are you confusing free trade agreements with international sales? once more, it isnt globalism. globalism is a political philosophy
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23445248 - 07/15/16 09:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The term "globalization" is sometimes used to refer to the much stronger modern link between the economies of different nations due to the rapid internationalization of many companies. Maybe that's where people are getting confused about: mistaking "globalism" for economic "globalization."
This kind of commercial "globalization" is just good business though, and there's nothing really new about it. Companies have been expanding and competing internationally for as long as companies have existed. It's just easier to do now with the internet and such, and as a result there's more of it.
Of course, people might bring up free trade agreements and stuff like that, but that has more to do with politics than business. From a business perspective, it just makes sense to sell to as large of a consumer base as you can, and if expanding overseas can help you do that then you do it. Same with buying materials or labor over seas. From a business perspective if it provides a superior product or costs less money (or both) then it (probably) makes sense to do. And this results in more connected economies and businesses in a way that some people call "globalization."
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: nooneman]
#23445253 - 07/15/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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nooneman said: The term "globalization" is sometimes used to refer to the much stronger modern link between the economies of different nations due to the rapid internationalization of many companies. Maybe that's where people are getting confused about: mistaking "globalism" for economic "globalization."
again that's pushed in trade agreements made by governments and it isnt good business to make different economies dependent on each other
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23445275 - 07/15/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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5150 said: Immigration is a dated concept,we no longer need mass manuel labor,ha!,with automation progressing exponentially daily its time for ppl to stay in their home countries and deal with the problems in their homeland,no more better life immigrants,if u deal with immigrants in your daily life do not give them work do not talk to them ,the proponents of immigration r career chickenhawk lawyers politicians who despise the majority of ppl in the usa
Aka: the jobless economy is coming and we need to lock the door before all these brown people figure out whats happening.
Since the US and EU already have enough of labor, why bring in immigrants? It makes zero sense.
All they are going to do is leech off of the already insolvent safety nets, those safety nets are for the native populations, not foreigners looking for a free ride.
The US didn't bring in my great grandparents to get free public housing, food stamps, health care, and education. It was to do work that was available and needed.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: 5150]
#23445280 - 07/15/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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5150 said: Immigration is a dated concept,we no longer need mass manuel labor,ha!,with automation progressing exponentially daily its time for ppl to stay in their home countries and deal with the problems in their homeland,no more better life immigrants,if u deal with immigrants in your daily life do not give them work do not talk to them ,the proponents of immigration r career chickenhawk lawyers politicians who despise the majority of ppl in the usa
90% of the population of the UAR are foreign workers, but admittedly their situation is more exceptional.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: nooneman]
#23445282 - 07/15/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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nooneman said: The term "globalization" is sometimes used to refer to the much stronger modern link between the economies of different nations due to the rapid internationalization of many companies. Maybe that's where people are getting confused about: mistaking "globalism" for economic "globalization."
This kind of commercial "globalization" is just good business though, and there's nothing really new about it. Companies have been expanding and competing internationally for as long as companies have existed. It's just easier to do now with the internet and such, and as a result there's more of it.
Of course, people might bring up free trade agreements and stuff like that, but that has more to do with politics than business. From a business perspective, it just makes sense to sell to as large of a consumer base as you can, and if expanding overseas can help you do that then you do it. Same with buying materials or labor over seas. From a business perspective if it provides a superior product or costs less money (or both) then it (probably) makes sense to do. And this results in more connected economies and businesses in a way that some people call "globalization."
"From a business perspective"
The US public doesn't give a fuck about that perspective anymore, they're coming from a wage and job perspective.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23445295 - 07/15/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: What may work in Western Europe may not work in North America.
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Re: '73 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Day celebrations in Nice 'terror attack' [Re: qman]
#23445319 - 07/15/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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All those oil rich spots ,lazy as hell,be nice when they finally run out,probably all will move to miami like most of them allready do
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