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First time shroom user, advice needed
    #23440504 - 07/14/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hey guys,

Interested in getting some advice in relation to tripping for the first time.

I've recently found myself about 9 dried grams of Subaeruginosa's and am thinking about having my first light trip.

About 5 years ago I was diagnosed with generalised anxiety disorder, which has since developed into OCD, depression and depersonalisation. I have also had my fair share of traumas over my 30 years of living. Not "major" traumas, but traumatic experiences none the less.

I wanted to get some advice on how much to take for a first dose, considering I would be pretty nervous taking them for the first time as I have always been anti-drug up until I started researching and discovered that they are using psilocybin to treat people with mental health issues and seem to be having great results, but I am still shit scared of them worsening what I currently deal with, as it's bad enough as it is.

Any advice on the matter would be good.

I was also considering trying to microdose, I've heard that subs are one of the most potent mushrooms and a good microdose would be between .04 and .06 of a gram. Can anyone confirm this?

Cheers in advance, any advice is welcomed.


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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: Diesel14]
    #23440544 - 07/14/16 10:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If you have depersonalization I wouldn't recommend drugs at all especially psychedelics. BUT if you're going to do it anyway I'd recommend a very small dose for your first time and just gradually bump it up if it isn't enough, or try microdosing like you said. And do not take it alone, make sure you have a sober person there who knows what you're going to be doing and is preferably experienced with tripping.

Unfortunately I'm unfamiliar with the potency of that type of shroom so I can't really recommend a dosage.


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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: Diesel14]
    #23440732 - 07/14/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Do NOT take them if you are worried about taking them. I don't even know how much I'd recommend or even if you should take them but all I know is you need to leave your worries at the door. Going into any kind of mushroom trip worried will never help you.

The mushrooms will only benefit you when you have a clear intent and respectful attitude towards them. If that is in anyway impossible for you to do then don't take them.


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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: Diesel14]
    #23440751 - 07/14/16 12:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Take half of a gram with a close friend, play your favorite music, and just breath. Whenever you reach a thought in your head that you view as negative, wash it away from your mind if you are not ready to face it.

Drink lots of fluids and have a light snack beforehand because there are sometimes stomach discomforts than can lead to nausea and vomiting so you won't really want to eat for a few hours after ingesting. It is truly a different and magical experience and you are really not going to be able to put words to how extra you feel. Just keep in mind the whole time that these are not a toy and that you chose to take them. Anything that reveals itself to you (entity, thought, etc.) take with a grain of salt because if you want to blow them off and pretend it's not real, you can.


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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23440763 - 07/14/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Proceed with caution. I have generalized anxiety disorder and depression as well. I am.not diagnosed with depersonalization but in my opinion someone with the mental issues you're having could have a bad experience with mushrooms. So I would suggest a light dose. 1 gram should give you some of the initial effects and give you an idea of how a more intense trip would feel. Take it slow and get a feel for it. in my case I do feel like mushrooms have helped with my depression and anxiety, but I had to put myself through hell with a few bad trips. In the end it did help me. I know some people don't really gain anything from a bad trip and the mental issues you explained go hand in hand with a scary experience. But if you are going to go into it, go into it with respect and with an open mind and an open heart. Don't fight it, just let go and remember that it's just mushrooms making you feel that way that you're feeling, don't be nervous or those feelings will be amplified.


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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: 420hoper]
    #23440864 - 07/14/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I have tons of mental dissorder going on- sometimes with symptoms similar to schizo. It's all about having things to do during your experience. Have a movie playlist for example, trip toys, if you're just sitting around you're probably going to get anxiety like you would just sitting around without drugs (I'm assuming our OCDs are similar pardon me if I am wrong) .


Keep your mind occupied on outside stimuli vs. just sitting there in your head.  Also I've heard people write stickies around the house to remind them of things they may want to stay away from or play with. A bowl of water, can be the most fun in the world , it's all up to you, just respect the strength of the drug and don't do any re-dosing while waiting. Remember that food can make it take a lot longer to kick in!  Most importantly enjoy :mushroom2:


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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23440911 - 07/14/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If it does go south dont fight it. Embrace it. It might show you a thing or two!


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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: Rainman13]
    #23440970 - 07/14/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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If it does go south dont fight it. Embrace it. It might show you a thing or two!




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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: Jeff Vader]
    #23441318 - 07/14/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

OP, are you on any Rx meds?  Some, like SSRIs, can really suppress the effects


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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: LuzaW]
    #23441498 - 07/14/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

and could potentially kill you if you are and mix them


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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23441876 - 07/14/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hey guys, thanks for the replies.

I am not on any medication of any sort so that won't be a problem but thanks for the information. I used to take SSRI's a long time ago and they didn't really do anything except make me feel numb, although they did quell my anxiety and depression a bit.

I've heard of people taking shrooms and "curing" themselves of complicated mental illnesses, although I'm sure this is very hit and miss. I plan on first trying microdosing (.05g) once a week and seeing if that has any positive effects. If I don't notice anything I will step it up to a .1g microdose. If nothing again, .2g and so on. I will proceed with caution because I respect mushrooms and know they are powerful tools.

I guess I am not taking them because I want to trip, that's not my thing. The only reason I am taking them is because I am desperate for some relief from my mental issues to a point where I don't know what to do anymore. But I understand tripping is part of the experience especially at doses higher than about .5 of a gram with subs.

In relation to being worried about taking shrooms, I think everyone is worried to some extent about taking shrooms for the first time, but not all of those people end up having bad trips. My main worry is that I go completely crazy, lose control of my mind and cause harm to myself or others. But that's part of my OCD and I have those thoughts whether I take shrooms or not.


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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: Diesel14] * 1
    #23441925 - 07/14/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Being nervous before a trip isn't necessarily a bad thing, I'm fairly used to tripping on a variety of substances but I still get a little nervous right before I take them, if anything I think that's better then being cocky about it because it shows you do have some level of respect for the substance and what it can do, plus if you go in cocky about it the mushies might turn around and try to teach you a lesson for it :lol:

I would drop the fear of losing your mind while on it though, granted I can't say with 100% certainty because everyone can have a different reaction but it's an almost nonexistent chance of that happening at the doses you plan on taking plus with you being smart enough to start small and gradually up your dose you'll be able to find your sweet spot without accidentally overdoing it.


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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: Diesel14] * 1
    #23441967 - 07/14/16 08:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Take this with a grain of salt. This is definitely not true for everyone. I have a good friend who is schizophrenic. He reacts extremely well to shrooms and never has a bad trip. Right now he is my best tripping buddy. I also have general anxiety and chronic depression. Shrooms do me a lot of good. Years ago I reached a point where I can actually control my trips by focusing my thoughts. Bad trips are long in the past.

I am only posting this for the sake of general knowledge. Shroom trips can go either blissfully good or traumatically bad.

If you do decide to dose stick with a microdose for the first time. Focus your thoughts and energy on positive things and you will probably have a good trip. Dose during a happy day. Listen to lighthearted music. If you're not feeling it that day; don't do it.


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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: Canadian Jesus]
    #23442010 - 07/14/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Cheers guys.

Yeah the main thing that worries me is that it could make my condition worse or make me completely lose control and turn psychotic. I know this is probably very rare but still possible.

Keep the advice coming.


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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: Diesel14]
    #23442105 - 07/14/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Diesel14 said:
I plan on first trying microdosing (.05g) once a week and seeing if that has any positive effects. If I don't notice anything I will step it up to a .1g microdose. If nothing again, .2g and so on.




That is much too low of a dose. A microdose would be around 0.2 or 0.3 grams not have of a point lol that would just be a waste of time.


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In relation to being worried about taking shrooms, I think everyone is worried to some extent about taking shrooms for the first time, but not all of those people end up having bad trips.




Yes but you didn't at all make it sound like the typical "worries" first timers have.


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My main worry is that I go completely crazy, lose control of my mind and cause harm to myself or others. But that's part of my OCD and I have those thoughts whether I take shrooms or not.




If you are worried about harming yourself or others that's because subconsciously you are trying to compare it to other drugs and other forms of intoxication and not feeling normal but believe me it's not what you think and you have absolutely NO reference point for how it is until you actually do it.

Also what does going completely crazy look like to you? What is "crazy" to you? Do you even have any real indication or reason for worrying about this? If so where did it come from?

I remember before ever trying shrooms my friend was telling me about them and how he wanted to try them and I was like "na man you're more likely to have a bad trip than a good trip on shrooms" but not only is that not true at all but I completely made it up in my head (subconsciously thinking it would be comparable to other forms of intoxication and "tripping") but it doesn't even make the least bit of sense..
We convince ourselves of so many things about these infamous drugs that it completely distorts our true objective take and approach to them. We make up the experiences in our heads before actually having them and this sets us up for failure.

It can even be as simple as taking LSD and then in the middle of the trip thinking to yourself; "I'm on LSD right now, shit some people have gone crazy and killed themselves on LSD...And since I'm on it now that can easily happen to me!" and then they will freak out simply based on their preconceptions.

Ever heard the expression "LSD has been known to cause psychotic reactions in those who have never taken it"...

You wanna know what tripping is like? It's like traveling. That's the only thing on this earth that I can compare it too. Not drugs, not cartoons but full fledged traveling. Go into a trip like how you would go into an actual trip to another continent or country. Hell I'd say shrooms feel more like travel than actual travel.


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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23442119 - 07/14/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I recommend trying between 3-100 grams of shrooms you will barely feel this (: enjoy


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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: Diesel14]
    #23442675 - 07/15/16 01:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Some good advice here.

I remember my first time.

Dosing with shrooms is tricky cause of variation in potency.

I will say doing too little is disappointing but doing too much in the wrong setting can be just as bad.

If your mindset is clear and focused (nervous is OK) and your setting calm and gentle, u should be fine.

Shrooms are very safe, unless u have a underlying mental disorder, then u might have a mental break, but its very rare for that to happen.

Also, pick out some music pre trip. Try a variety of slow tempo stuff as well as some upbeat stuff too. Mix it up, and dont forget some quiet alone time to enjoy shrooms CEV effect


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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23442751 - 07/15/16 01:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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AuroraBorealis88 said:
Quote:

Diesel14 said:
I plan on first trying microdosing (.05g) once a week and seeing if that has any positive effects. If I don't notice anything I will step it up to a .1g microdose. If nothing again, .2g and so on.




That is much too low of a dose. A microdose would be around 0.2 or 0.3 grams not have of a point lol that would just be a waste of time.


Quote:

In relation to being worried about taking shrooms, I think everyone is worried to some extent about taking shrooms for the first time, but not all of those people end up having bad trips.




Yes but you didn't at all make it sound like the typical "worries" first timers have.


Quote:

My main worry is that I go completely crazy, lose control of my mind and cause harm to myself or others. But that's part of my OCD and I have those thoughts whether I take shrooms or not.




If you are worried about harming yourself or others that's because subconsciously you are trying to compare it to other drugs and other forms of intoxication and not feeling normal but believe me it's not what you think and you have absolutely NO reference point for how it is until you actually do it.

Also what does going completely crazy look like to you? What is "crazy" to you? Do you even have any real indication or reason for worrying about this? If so where did it come from?

I remember before ever trying shrooms my friend was telling me about them and how he wanted to try them and I was like "na man you're more likely to have a bad trip than a good trip on shrooms" but not only is that not true at all but I completely made it up in my head (subconsciously thinking it would be comparable to other forms of intoxication and "tripping") but it doesn't even make the least bit of sense..
We convince ourselves of so many things about these infamous drugs that it completely distorts our true objective take and approach to them. We make up the experiences in our heads before actually having them and this sets us up for failure.

It can even be as simple as taking LSD and then in the middle of the trip thinking to yourself; "I'm on LSD right now, shit some people have gone crazy and killed themselves on LSD...And since I'm on it now that can easily happen to me!" and then they will freak out simply based on their preconceptions.

Ever heard the expression "LSD has been known to cause psychotic reactions in those who have never taken it"...

You wanna know what tripping is like? It's like traveling. That's the only thing on this earth that I can compare it too. Not drugs, not cartoons but full fledged traveling. Go into a trip like how you would go into an actual trip to another continent or country. Hell I'd say shrooms feel more like travel than actual travel.



This. Youl be right OP


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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23442776 - 07/15/16 02:07 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Cheers for the replies guys.

@Aurora, going crazy for me is losing control of my thoughts and physical body. Because of my OCD I have thoughts like this on a regular basis, I guess it's the fear of the thoughts that keeps it going. But I guess I fear acting on those thoughts under the influence of mushrooms.

I know what you're saying about the way we convince ourselves of things before we have even experienced them.

@LogicaL, unfortunately I do have a mental disorder and it's not underlying, it's very present. Which is why I'm worried about he shrooms worsening my condition. I guess I've read a lot about shrooms being used in research for the treatment of OCD, Depression and Anxiety, and I'm curious to see whether they can have a positive effect on me but I'm also worried about the opposite happening.


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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: Niciskarma]
    #23442955 - 07/15/16 05:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I recommend trying between 3-100 grams of shrooms you will barely feel this (: enjoy




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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23442966 - 07/15/16 05:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First time shroom user, advice needed [Re: Diesel14]
    #23444038 - 07/15/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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going crazy for me is losing control of my thoughts and physical body. Because of my OCD I have thoughts like this on a regular basis, I guess it's the fear of the thoughts that keeps it going. But I guess I fear acting on those thoughts under the influence of mushrooms.




Understandable. I think the biggest reason anyone would react in such a way was either if they were in an absolutely dreadful mindset prior or they thought it would be something completely different from what it actually is.

You should expect the unexpected when it comes to tripping but it's good to read up on the effects as much as you can:
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Psilocin
(subjective effects sections)

Happy shrooming :mushroom2:


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