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OfflineNiciskarma
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    #23439598 - 07/13/16 11:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Me and my big brother have been growing 2 beautiful cannabis plants from seeds we got out of some bud but i Have a couple questions . First my brother can transplant weed plants and they don't go into shock or receive ANY stress what so ever but when I tried to transplant my male plant it died and i had to bring it back to life. Second is a mix of distilled water Epson salts and seaweed extract  a good nutritious diet for marijuana  plants? If not what should i add to it it seems to be working out just fine and they are about a foot tall and smell wonderful. Third my plants look like a mixture of sativa and indica im prettu sure sativa has the fingers far apart and indica has the leaves really close together. Forth every weed plant I've seen from friends to the Internet are really tall and not thick but every time I grow marijuana it gets really thick and buff



Please answer with legit answers and even tho im a amateur try and not laugh at my quetions, THANKS


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Re: Growing [Re: Niciskarma]
    #23439605 - 07/13/16 11:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

please don't salt your plants.


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Re: Growing [Re: krishnalove]
    #23439619 - 07/14/16 12:01 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ever heard of Epson salts? It's the shit that makes leaves dark green and vibrant


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Re: Growing [Re: Niciskarma]
    #23439662 - 07/14/16 12:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Why are you growing a male plant?


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Re: Growing [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23439672 - 07/14/16 12:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Can you post a picture of the leaves? The lights you are using sound like they keep tight internodal spacing which is really nice when growing. Are you planning on topping the female? Or doing any other training?

That sounds like good water, but dont use the epaom salt all the time. Maybe ever other watering or every third watering. What is the npk ratio of the nutrients you are using and the soil you are using as well?

How do you transplant? You need to be careful not to tear off a lot of the root system. I normally grow in a very small pot until there is a big rootball, about the size of the container, and gently loosen the sides, and bottom. You should be using something disposable or plastic or something like that as transplanting should be moving from a temporary pot to a permanent one. The plastic would make it easier to separate the bottom of the plant from the bottom of the pot. Then hold it sideways and gently rock the whole plant out and transplant.
What kind of lights are you using?


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Re: Growing [Re: Niciskarma]
    #23439715 - 07/14/16 12:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Niciskarma said:
Me and my big brother have been growing 2 beautiful cannabis plants from seeds we got out of some bud but i Have a couple questions.

First my brother can transplant weed plants and they don't go into shock or receive ANY stress what so ever but when I tried to transplant my male plant it died and i had to bring it back to life.

Second is a mix of distilled water Epson salts and seaweed extract  a good nutritious diet for marijuana  plants?
If not what should i add to it it seems to be working out just fine and they are about a foot tall and smell wonderful.

Third my plants look like a mixture of sativa and indica im prettu sure sativa has the fingers far apart and indica has the leaves really close together.

Forth every weed plant I've seen from friends to the Internet are really tall and not thick but every time I grow marijuana it gets really thick and buff



Please answer with legit answers and even tho im a amateur try and not laugh at my quetions, THANKS




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Re: Growing [Re: Spiritwithin]
    #23439823 - 07/14/16 02:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Few things... Are you going for organic or do you not care? Personally i find organic stuff is cleaner and nicer to smoke than plants fed with nutes.

If you are looking at organic this is something to look into. Mixing a super soil. It will contain everything your plants will need from start to finish. All you do is water your plants with plain water and the plants take what they need when they need it! It takes the guess work out of feeding and is really ideal and super easy to feed your plants.

If your interested in this let me know i can help you out! Its the way to go if your interested in organic (reccomended but not for everyone!)

SECONDLY!!! As mike said, you should look into training/ topping your plants! You will increase your yeild significantly if you do it right! You NEED to check this out!

http://www.growweedeasy.com/cannabis-plant-training

There is alot of great stuff there but if you are limited with time or cant be fucked reading it all just read the part about TOPPING and LST

Also are they outside or in?


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Re: Growing [Re: Rainman13]
    #23440422 - 07/14/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'd pick up some standard fox farm soil and get your pH right. Never failed me starting out the easy way, still to this day I include some fox farm in my no till soil


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Re: Growing [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23442094 - 07/14/16 09:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'll post some pics of all the stuff soon btw they were kept under a 6500k bulb for 4 week and then they were moved to the sun they are now about a foot or 2 tall and 7 weeks old btw if someone could tell me everything I need to know such as what watering cycle i should have for my plants involving seaweed fertilizer Epson salts and water, what "topping a plant" is and that's about it. Another thing is they are growing in a small forest where they are not getting much sun aswell as i live in Canada and it has been raining non stop lately but it does not get more than 30 degrees celcious here THANKS GUYS AGAIN IM A AMATEUR IN GROWING WEED


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Re: Growing [Re: Niciskarma]
    #23442096 - 07/14/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Btw at this point I got no monies and im living with my parents who aren't cool with growing that's why im growing so I can't go out and buy all this shit.


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Re: Growing [Re: Niciskarma]
    #23442207 - 07/14/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Could you explain why you're growing a male plant? It provides no flower and only pollen which will ensure that you have very seeded bud


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Re: Growing [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23442250 - 07/14/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

How many nodes are they? If they have too many you might end with a big mess if you try to top. Topping is where you cut the stem that is the tallest right above a node. The node that remains will grow bigger, and the rest of the plant that is below that point will grow a littlw faster to "catch up" the highest point of the plants has the highest concentration of auxin which is a plant hormone that basically tells the plant to grow faster or slower depending on how much auxin is present. By cutting the tallest branch (on an untopped plant this is the main stem) you will redistribute the auxins which will cause for a bushier plant with more places for bud to grow.

What kind of growing medium are you using? Does the strain you are growing have any special care that needs to be taken? Epsom sal is usually used to treat or prevent magnesium deficiency which you can tell if you have a mg deficient plant because the stem turns dark purple and yellow. Ive only mixed about 2 tsp epsom sal into 3 gallons or at most 1/2 cup in 6 gallons, and then added as a water amendment at 1 tsp per every 3 waterings. If you are outdoor see if there is a creek or water with fish nearby. The fish emulsion in the water is amazing for the plants.
If they dont get much sun, try either putting them in pots in the tree branches, which will get them maybe a little more sun, or make a small east to west oriented clearing. If you make a clearing you need to be extra cautious because your spot is a little more noticeable from the sky


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Re: Growing [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23442283 - 07/14/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

They have a HUGE root system so I can not put them in pots without hurting them im growing a male for seeds and it is 1km away from the females so yeah


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Re: Growing [Re: Niciskarma]
    #23442299 - 07/14/16 10:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Pollen flies multiple kilometers. It slips my mind just how far they can fly, but I know that they'll fly much much farther than 1k.


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Re: Growing [Re: Niciskarma]
    #23442316 - 07/14/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ok first off you only want to use epsom salts when your plant is having a cal/mag deficiency. I personally would have mixed some into the soil so you dont have to add any later because its already there. Other wise i would only use it in waterings once or twice for the plants whole life time. If you use it too often and too much it will build up in your soil and cause other nuitrents to be locked out! Most people say they are using 1/2 tsp - 1 tsp per gallon!

And as for watering! You only need to water when the soil is drying out! Put your finger an inch into the soil. If it does not feel dry dont water it. Atleast once a week while they are young. DONOT over water them. I cannot stress this enough! If you water too much it will prevent the roots from getting oxygen and it will suffocate your plants roots! Just keep an eye on them and the plant will almost in a way tell you if it needs watering! They seem to do best when you leave them alone and let them do there thing! Its easy to do too much and over do it! So just water them once or twice a week and LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!

Feeding! Personally i would forget about the epsom salts. I mix it into my soil but sometimes i will notice the plants go yellow (cal/mag defficency) and this is when i give them some! If your that set on using it only use every 3rd or 4th watering!

Do you know about macro nuitrents? NPK! At diffrent stages your plant wants diffrent levels of NPK. On nuitrent bottles the amounts on NPK are expressed in ratios like such: NPK 1-6-2
During veg you want a bit of everything but most importantly your plant wants lots of (but not too much) N - NITROGEN! Your seaweed stuff probably has enough of this to keep your plant happy for veg! As for dosage and how often you should use, First of all make sure your plants are already looking strong and healthy and give them a half dose and see how they react.

Maybe try this for your next few waterings!... Feed 1/4 dose - Plain water - plain water - feed 1/2 dose - plain water - plain water - feed full dose.

Dont over do it! LESS IS MORE!!!

When your plant starts to flower its going to want more P - phosphorus! Get something rich in P for flowering! bat guano is high in P! But this all really depends on what is available to you! I think blood and bone ussally has a bit of P in it but also lots of nitrogen. So maybe use this during the start of flowering then switch to something with more P and less N.

You followin me?

Now topping!



By doing this the two shoots that would have just been branches are now your new main stems. So instead of your plant having one head it now has two! You can do this lots! You can top your plant more than once too! You could keep topping your plant til it has 64 main shoots or even more! But thats a bit excessive!

I know as a new grower this will be hard to do but trust me its worth it!!!!!



In the image below, See how there is two main colas? Look below the buds and you will see it is split. This is because they topped the plant. See what im getting at? You just doubled your main cola count!



The image below is off a plant that has been mainlined! Topping in this manner results in a nice clean even manifold of colas that are all even in size. This is a little more advanced but still prety easy. That plant has a total of 16 main branches and they will all produce nice colas that get an even amount of sun!



Does this help?



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Re: Growing [Re: Rainman13]
    #23442322 - 07/14/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

And dude chop the males and buy some seeds online. Its prety safe and you can grow some killer shit! Kushes, hazes, sour D, Bodhi seeds IT DOESNT END!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Growing [Re: Niciskarma]
    #23442331 - 07/14/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You should learn how to clone instead or use gibberelic acid, it costs maybe $15, and will give you selfed seeds from a female which means not hermaphroditic but alway fem. Growing a male for seeds is not that good of an idea, cloning is super easy. You know the potency of the female and clones will be the exact same. The male could be any potency. Like when i grow males to breed, i usually grow 50 males just to pick one of them and cut down the rest. I have a video on topping up on Youtube if you like i can send you a link and you can see how easy it is to clone and basic lst topping techniques


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Re: Growing [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23442333 - 07/14/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nice reply rainman i was lazy lol and didnt have pics like that to post


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Re: Growing [Re: Rainman13]
    #23442340 - 07/14/16 10:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Some great advice in this thread. It's been 15 years since I grew any MJ. Is the SCROG technique still a thing with the chicken wire? That's how I grew way back when.


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Re: Growing [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23442369 - 07/14/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Mike4aco said:
Nice reply rainman i was lazy lol and didnt have pics like that to post



I just googled it. Like OP could have. Oh well



And yes scrog is still a thing! Gota spread them branches out BOY!!!!

Heres a pic of a scrog (screen of green) for you OP. Something for you to look into!



Here is another example



The point in this is to spread the branches out so they all get even sun so you have a large amount o decent sized heads that all get a good amount of sun. If you just let your plant grow straight up like a christmas tree you are cutting your harvest short IMO unless you have lots of plants!

Another easier method of spreading branches out is LST. Calm down i said LST not LSD! All it is, is bending your plant down so all those branches are evenly spread out so they all get even sun and no body is left out! Because we all like to share and play nice dont we!

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You pickin up what im puttin down OP?


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