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nooneman


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How responsible are you? 1
#23438484 - 07/13/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sometimes I think to myself "I'm a really responsible drug user," but perhaps the average drug user is equally as responsible as I am. Maybe the average drug user is even more responsible than I am, and I just don't know it. So, I'm curious about people who use drugs and still lead highly responsible lives, versus people who use drugs but find it difficult to lead responsible lives.
How responsible are you in your life? How does your drug use factor in?
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Re: How responsible are you? [Re: nooneman] 2
#23439014 - 07/13/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Approximately 87.376% responsible
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Re: How responsible are you? [Re: nooneman] 1
#23439079 - 07/13/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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What is responsibility?
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I might as well reply to bump this poll
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Re: How responsible are you? [Re: Patlal] 3
#23439164 - 07/13/16 09:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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How bored are you to make this questioaire
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Re: How responsible are you? [Re: goop] 1
#23439168 - 07/13/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is actually pretty interesting maybe we'll get some bell curves
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Re: How responsible are you? [Re: goop] 3
#23439173 - 07/13/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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goop said: How bored are you to make this questioaire
How bored must you be to ask?
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Re: How responsible are you? [Re: pineninja]
#23439190 - 07/13/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Its funny, up to now my answers tie up with the majority. The only exception being that I trip more often
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Re: How responsible are you? [Re: pineninja]
#23439199 - 07/13/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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pineninja said:
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goop said: How bored are you to make this questioaire
How bored must you be to ask?
How bored are you to ask me that?
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Re: How responsible are you? [Re: goop]
#23439281 - 07/13/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Solid survey.
I feel like my responsibility, or lack thereof, can be attributed more to upbringing and personality rather than what substances I may or may not have used.
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Re: How responsible are you? [Re: goop] 2
#23439328 - 07/13/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: How responsible are you? [Re: pineninja]
#23439339 - 07/13/16 10:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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They completely changed my duties at work and I'm finding out I'm not as responsible as I thought. I'm responsible in the sense that I show up on time, don't call in, and I'm honest\hardworking. On the other hand I space out and forget stuff all the time! Then I remember when I get home, after it's too late and I already did the paperwork. This leads to me stressing about work all night on my time off.
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Re: How responsible are you? [Re: goop]
#23439357 - 07/13/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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goop said: How bored are you to make this questioaire

Not bored so much as really high and curious.
Also this thread has already showed that I am a completely average amount of responsible
Edited by nooneman (07/13/16 10:31 PM)
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Re: How responsible are you? [Re: nooneman]
#23439419 - 07/13/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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i fucked up the survey.
can i have a redo? lol
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Re: How responsible are you? [Re: goop]
#23439421 - 07/13/16 10:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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goop said: How bored are you to make this questioaire
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Re: How responsible are you? [Re: Patlal]
#23440653 - 07/14/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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What do you consider irresponsible drug use. I put somewhat responsible because the only risky thing I do with drugs is sometimes buy mdma at shows and take it without using a test kit. I try to avoid this but it happens sometimes.
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Re: How responsible are you? [Re: searching]
#23440660 - 07/14/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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i'm responsible enough to not do drugs.
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Re: How responsible are you? [Re: nooneman]
#23440685 - 07/14/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The question of "How responsible are you with drugs" I put somewhat responsible because substances I have have inherit health risks.
Even if not major or even unlikely to happen. Such as alcohol. Bad for your liver. Every one knows this, however not every one gets liver problems and some people drink 1-3 beers a day. Same with Kratom. Same with Vaping to obtain nicotine intake. Not good your your lungs because it's not normal to put vapor in the lungs (this area is currently debated) but no one usually has problems other than shortness of breath, usually caused only from certain flavors.
I thought it was only appropriate to put somewhat responsible, factoring in the fact that I use drugs in the first place.
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Other than the fact I seem to take psyche's about as often as most who took the poll, it seems like I'm one hell of an irresponsible and impulsive motherfucker. Should that be a wakeup call? Nah, fuck. I like being irresponsible.
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Jokeshopbeard said: Other than the fact I seem to take psyche's about as often as most who took the poll, it seems like I'm one hell of an irresponsible and impulsive motherfucker. Should that be a wakeup call? Nah, fuck. I like being irresponsible.
Well, doing meth automatically puts you in the "very irresponsible drug use" niche
On a separate note, right now I am in line with every leading poll option  Think that's a first in my life for a poll with half a dozen questions
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I dunno, I used to use it pretty responsibly when I first came across it. My wife and I would indulge every few months and use it to power the most insanely epic sex sessions.
I think it hit the irresponsible point when the sex sessions went from 5hrs -> 23hrs and total days awake went from 2 -> 4.5, resulting in my first ever brush with psychosis (I really wasn't sure who I was having sex with or where I was towards the end..). Yeah. I'd say that was pretty irresponsible.
Not before though. Definitely not before.
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I fuck bitches and make money, yolo, IDGAF bout responsibility yo.
I do mushrooms and drink alcohol and smoke cigs. I pay all my bills and am about to graduate. Id say im like a 5/10 responsibility wise. Like i'll pass off an opportunity to make more money to party all weekend and spend a bunch. Mostly only during the summer but still.
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Don't get the tone of my message wrong, I'm pretty indifferent to all this, but using meth on any basis outside of a long past singular experience or freak accident, is enough for me to think one is very irresponsible with their drug use.
Meth, crack, heroin. Very irresponsible Amph, coke, percocets/opiates, xanax/barbs. Moderately irresponsible. Kratom. Naive.
Feel free to disagree though really don't care what other people do
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Repertoire89 said: Don't get the tone of my message wrong
I didn't at all man. Although I do disagree with you. Anything can be used responsibly IMO:
Use, do not abuse; neither abstinence nor excess ever renders man happy. --Voltaire
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Playing with such a highly addictive substance, is gambling with your emotions though. Today you're in control, but then someone dies and you're lower than ever seemed possible...
A drink to chase the bitterness, a smoke-fuck session follows

Either way, I think its irresponsible to open that door, because there are safe alternatives. Its simply unnecessary to take that risk, smoke a joint, drop some acid.
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IME stimulants (and I've done an absolute fuck ton of them in my time) are only addictive until sleep comes on. Once I wake again I can easily go a long time without thinking about them.
It's opiates and nicotine which are the most insideous IMO - with them they're pretty much the first thing on my mind when I wake if using for more than a couple of days in a row...
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Repertoire89 said: there are safe alternatives.
I don't think there are. Nothing can turn me (or other people I know who indulge) into the sexual monster I become once I'm on amphetamines.
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Well, idk 
Amphetamines don't sound too dangerous to me, meth seems to be the one people usually have issues with. All the psychotic meth-heads I've met make it difficult to consider an alternative view on the drug.
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Meth actually isn't that bad. It has a huuuge stigma, but it's just Adderall XR. It does have some affinity for serotonin, but so does 4FA (to a much larger degree even), and no one treats 4FA like they do meth.
ANY stimulant (adderall, ritalin, ethylphenidate, 4FA) can and will fuck you up if you go on high dose binges every week, or if you're using high doses every day, but meth is not significantly worse than the others in this aspect.
Stimulants are also not very addictive. Much less so than nicotine or opiates, anyway. A lot of people take them daily when they're young and choose not to continue when they become an adult. They do have withdrawal symptoms, but it's not on the level of nicotine or opiates. It's mostly exhaustion, lack of motivation, hunger, depression, and irritability that resolves in a period of days/weeks.
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Re: How responsible are you? [Re: nooneman]
#23441851 - 07/14/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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So how do people get so fucked off of it?
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nooneman


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Going on binges every week and using high doses every day. The same thing can and will happen if you do this with any stimulant (4FA, ritalin, adderall, etc.).
There are people who are staying up for 4, 5, 6 days straight every week, eating almost nothing, and using stimulants constantly. If you did that with ritalin, it would be just as bad maybe even worse.
Let's put this in context: the medical dose of amphetamine is 5-20mg. The recreational dose is 100mg. Imagine someone doing 100mg of ritalin every couple hours for 4-5 days straight, every week. That has faces of meth material written all over it.
Edited by nooneman (07/14/16 08:05 PM)
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Re: How responsible are you? [Re: nooneman]
#23441927 - 07/14/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's been my view on it though 
Its a shitty drug and people destroy their lives on it, from physical or psychological addiction, its the same difference. I listed amps/coke lower because they're weaker than meth/crack, but that was probably a mistake.
Unless I'm missing something in this picture Very few people a real alcoholic, maybe I'm judging meth too harshly by the exceptions rather than the rule
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You're forgetting the millions upon millions of people who are prescribed stimulants of all kinds, and use them responsibly. Also the people who use stimulant RCs. This has nothing to do with meth being a "bad drug." This is about people dosing drugs irresponsibly. Meth is no more dangerous than adderall, all stimulants can do these things, that's my point.
We stigmatize meth, but it's no more dangerous than any other stimulant, and the vast majority of people use stimulants responsibly.
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Re: How responsible are you? [Re: nooneman]
#23441938 - 07/14/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well that's interesting
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Didn't see the first question for some reason so that one is unanswered, but I would say I'm a calculated risk taker - I will mull over the pros and cons and think a lot about risk management, but I'm also impulsive so ultimately if I very much want to do something then it's a bit of a battle of will - I rarely act without thinking so my risky decisions and impulsive behavior are more a product of me doing the usual mental song and dance of 'should i shouldn't i' and then just being like 'lol fuck it'.
As I get older I'm not as much of a slave to my whims as I used to be, though I will still have my moments.
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