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Man denied security clearance at work for being Scientologist * 1
    #23437518 - 07/13/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

A Berlin court ruled that it was okay to deny a man security clearance due to concerns about him being a Scientologist.

The man was working for a company that produces helicopter parts, often for the German military.

He had to take a security clearance test by the German Economic Affairs Ministry and did not pass because of his membership with the Church of Scientology.

The mechanic argued that he was simply a member and that Scientology as his religion should be a private matter.

But the court on Tuesday ruled that denying him security clearance for classified materials was justifiable, in particular because Scientologists are required to go through auditing - a sort of confessional counseling in which their thoughts and experiences are kept on record.

The court explained that this practice rightly leaves doubt about Scientologists’ trustworthiness with classified materials and their loyalty to the constitution.

The court further said that this decision did not violate the man's right to freedom of religion.
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The German government does not recognize Scientology as a religion, unlike in the United States, and tends to view the organization with a high level of scepticism.

Courts have ruled in the past that the group is engaged in activities that are subversive to freedom and democracy and should be subject to closer surveillance.
http://www.thelocal.de/20160713/man-denied-security-clearance-at-work-for-being-a-scientologist

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Re: Man denied security clearance at work for being Scientologist [Re: LobsterSauce] * 1
    #23437536 - 07/13/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Good.

It's time we put a stop to this religious bullshit.


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Re: Man denied security clearance at work for being Scientologist [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #23437690 - 07/13/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Scientology isn't a religion in germany.


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Re: Man denied security clearance at work for being Scientologist [Re: Patlal]
    #23437728 - 07/13/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

On one hand, religious freedom. On the other, Scientology.


What a pickle.


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Re: Man denied security clearance at work for being Scientologist [Re: Bozko]
    #23437738 - 07/13/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

What if Hitler had pulled the religion card?

Clearly it wouldn't have mattered just like it shouldn't with this corrupt brain washing cult :lol:

At least Germans have the gonads to stand up to them and reject their religious facade.


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Re: Man denied security clearance at work for being Scientologist [Re: Sun King]
    #23437811 - 07/13/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

That post is perfect with your signature. :lolsy:

But yeah, Scientology seems crazy subversive to me.  Plus I mean, Tom Cruise these days.  Fucking yikes!


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Re: Man denied security clearance at work for being Scientologist [Re: Bozko] * 1
    #23438002 - 07/13/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Germany does not consider Scientology a religion they consider them a cult, and rightfully so. No one is stopping him from practicing whatever religion he wants, he's denied security clearances based on some very real concerns - plenty of other people make choices that would impede their ability to get clearance too. Freedom of speech, of religion, of whatever, does not free you of the consequences.


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Bozko said:
On one hand, religious freedom. On the other, Scientology.


What a pickle.





Hey this is off topic but I'm really digging the tardigrade gif in your sig.


They're probably my favorite animal next to cuttlefish.

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Re: Man denied security clearance at work for being Scientologist [Re: pirate-blues] * 2
    #23438023 - 07/13/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Germany is no doubt aware that Scientologists infiltrated the US govt big time back in the 70's. I wouldn't trust any of them either.

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Re: Man denied security clearance at work for being Scientologist [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #23438088 - 07/13/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Germans are so smart.


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Re: Man denied security clearance at work for being Scientologist [Re: pirate-blues]
    #23438993 - 07/13/16 08:36 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Hey this is off topic but I'm really digging the tardigrade gif in your sig.


They're probably my favorite animal next to cuttlefish.




We have similar tastes in creatures my friend. I have an obsession with Cephalopods :rockon:


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ShadeOfDeepPurple said: I guess you don't get shamanism yet by the very fact that you describe a psychedelic as Mexican.

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Re: Man denied security clearance at work for being Scientologist [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #23439096 - 07/13/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Germans are so smart.




Racist

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