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rider420
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Pot pains: Why marijuana can become toxic for some
#23437669 - 07/13/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pot pains: Why marijuana can become toxic for some
Marijuana is having a moment. The once recreational-use-only drug is now considered by many as a medicine, an anti-nauseant and pain reliever, even an epilepsy medication.
But some long-term “pot heads” are finding the drug they once loved because it took away their pain can suddenly turn on them and become toxic.
These users are developing a little-understood condition called cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome that brings on unrelenting vomiting, nausea and stomach pain. Standard medications do not relieve it, smoking more marijuana only seems to worsen it, and some doctors say they are seeing a lot more cases of it.
Full story http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/pot-pains-why-marijuana-can-become-toxic-for-some-1.2984756
This has to be the worst diagnoses ever! General Symptoms that Might Indicate Pesticide Poisoning info at http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chemicals/pesticides/health_effects.html
Are these doctors incompetent or anti cannabis? Do the doctors really believe a black market drug is pure? And we know for a fact some growers don't care and use pesticides! More refer madness!
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Re: Pot pains: Why marijuana can become toxic for some [Re: rider420]
#23437676 - 07/13/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's from the anti-marijuana big pharm lobbyists, bro!
Of course they'd say that, gosh!
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Re: Pot pains: Why marijuana can become toxic for some [Re: LobsterSauce]
#23437687 - 07/13/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Its crazy we are still seeing stupid articles like this.... I would love to meet the backwater hicks living under rocks who still believe this crap.
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Re: Pot pains: Why marijuana can become toxic for some [Re: musiclover420]
#23437838 - 07/13/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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My stomach and bowels never functioned better than when I was toking.
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Re: Pot pains: Why marijuana can become toxic for some [Re: rider420]
#23437928 - 07/13/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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When I first began smoking weed, I got really nauseous a few times. Haven't had the problem since then, though.
Edited by Le_Canard (07/13/16 02:44 PM)
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Re: Pot pains: Why marijuana can become toxic for some [Re: rider420]
#23437946 - 07/13/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I too am skeptical - it's not all that uncommon for people to have digestive issues that doctors are powerless to test for or treat.
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Re: Pot pains: Why marijuana can become toxic for some [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#23437965 - 07/13/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: I too am skeptical - it's not all that uncommon for people to have digestive issues that doctors are powerless to test for or treat.
Perhaps, but this seems to be a well-documented condition, with ample citations in the professional literature.
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Re: Pot pains: Why marijuana can become toxic for some [Re: badchad] 1
#23438028 - 07/13/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Perhaps, but this seems to be a well-documented condition, with ample citations in the professional literature.
Not really "It’s a condition that can’t be easily diagnosed, since there is no one test that can spot it. It’s only after everything else has been ruled out and a history of pot use has been established that doctors are left with CHS." in other words its what the doctors blame when they can not find the real cause.
Reefer madness plain and simple!
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Re: Pot pains: Why marijuana can become toxic for some [Re: Morel Guy]
#23438201 - 07/13/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: My stomach and bowels never functioned better than when I was toking.
I too noticed that regular toking made for a regular digestive system. In fact, personally speaking, cannabis seemed to help balance all of my bodily systems, including the circulatory system and cardiovascular system by way of a normal blood pressure, as opposed to a blood pressure that has registered a little higher because of my mechanical valve, and an increase in lung capacity, respectively.
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Re: Pot pains: Why marijuana can become toxic for some [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
#23438970 - 07/13/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You people should really believe the news media, they have our best interests at heart and are only trying to look out for us
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rider420
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Re: Pot pains: Why marijuana can become toxic for some [Re: xzylocybin]
#23440700 - 07/14/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just had to post this
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The cause of cyclic vomiting syndrome is unknown. However, some experts believe that some possible problems with bodily functions may contribute to the cause, such as the following: •gastrointestinal motility—the way food moves through the digestive system •central nervous system function—includes the brain, spinal cord, and nerves that control bodily responses •autonomic nervous system function—nerves that control internal organs such as the heart •hormone imbalances—hormones are a chemical produced in one part of the body and released into the blood to trigger or regulate particular bodily functions •in children, an abnormal inherited gene may also contribute to the condition
Specific conditions or events may trigger an episode of cyclic vomiting: •emotional stress, anxiety, or panic attacks—for example, in children, common triggers of anticipatory anxiety are school exams or events, birthday parties, holidays, family conflicts, or travel •infections, such as a sinus infection, a respiratory infection, or the flu •eating certain foods, such as chocolate or cheese, or additives such as caffeine, nitrites—commonly found in cured meats such as hot dogs—and monosodium glutamate, also called MSG •hot weather •menstrual periods •motion sickness •overeating, fasting, or eating right before bedtime •physical exhaustion or too much exercise
Source https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-topics/digestive-diseases/cyclic-vomiting-syndrome/Pages/facts.aspx
Other sources http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cyclic-vomiting-syndrome/basics/causes/CON-20028160
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The cause of cyclic vomiting syndrome is unknown. But the bouts of vomiting that characterize the syndrome can be triggered by: •Colds, allergies or sinus problems •Emotional stress or excitement, especially in children •Anxiety or panic attacks, especially in adults •Foods, such as chocolate or cheese •Overeating or eating right before going to bed •Hot weather •Physical exhaustion •Menstruation •Motion sickness
Identifying the triggers for vomiting episodes may help with managing cyclic vomiting syndrome.
Unknown unless you smoke cannabis then its the weeds fault eh. What a joke reefer madness is still alive and well!
Edited by rider420 (07/14/16 02:13 PM)
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Re: Pot pains: Why marijuana can become toxic for some [Re: rider420]
#23443442 - 07/15/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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rider420 said:
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Pot pains: Why marijuana can become toxic for some
Marijuana is having a moment. The once recreational-use-only drug is now considered by many as a medicine, an anti-nauseant and pain reliever, even an epilepsy medication.
But some long-term “pot heads” are finding the drug they once loved because it took away their pain can suddenly turn on them and become toxic.
These users are developing a little-understood condition called cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome that brings on unrelenting vomiting, nausea and stomach pain. Standard medications do not relieve it, smoking more marijuana only seems to worsen it, and some doctors say they are seeing a lot more cases of it.
Full story http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/pot-pains-why-marijuana-can-become-toxic-for-some-1.2984756
This has to be the worst diagnoses ever! General Symptoms that Might Indicate Pesticide Poisoning info at http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chemicals/pesticides/health_effects.html
Are these doctors incompetent or anti cannabis? Do the doctors really believe a black market drug is pure? And we know for a fact some growers don't care and use pesticides! More refer madness!
seriously, are you trolling right now? What a bunch of bullshit.
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Re: Pot pains: Why marijuana can become toxic for some [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23443742 - 07/15/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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hypermiesis is real, it is often called gastroparisis
cannabinoids are produced by your body to regulate your digestive system
consuming large amounts of cannabis on a daily basis will lead to a build up of cannabinoids in your system. when your body cannot get rid of the cannabinoids as fast your uptake you become prone to gastroparisis. it is similar to a dos attack where your digestive system is becomes overwhelmed by the amount of signals it is receving and as a rrsult it completly shuts down.
this is a very real thing, it has happened to a good freind of mine who was dabbing around a gram per day of cannabis oil. he is fine now and still smokes sometimes. but it is a real thing and you should not be so close minded as to think that cannabis could never be the cause of someones sickness.
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Re: Pot pains: Why marijuana can become toxic for some [Re: mustardtiger]
#23450617 - 07/17/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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A gram of dab per day? Haha, that's extreme...i would be surprised if there were zero unpleasant side-effects.
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Re: Pot pains: Why marijuana can become toxic for some [Re: dwnlw2slw]
#23450670 - 07/17/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Seriously, I have seen people extremely irritable from dabbing way too much all the time. A gram a day sounds incredibly wasteful and not good for the brain.
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