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Mushroom I.D
    #23437458 - 07/13/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)
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Habitat:
The cluster of mushrooms were growing in a cattle pasture in grass. Just rained for a few hours about 2 days before i picked them. central Arkansas
Gills:
Dirty cream/brown color. with the partial veils just braking. attached to stem. tons of gills/tightly packed
Stem:
the stems are a lot longer then caps. fibrous stem that is an off white/golden color. Bruises blue. no bulb at bottom. Stems are hollow. Equal thickness top and bottom of stem.About (10/15 mm) thick About 90 mm tall
Cap:
This is tough for me to explain. Golden/brown/bronze... has a dull point in middle of caps. some are darker in middle at dull point. Very smooth.Looks like it would be slimy if wet/NOT CONFIRMED! About (50 mm) wide
Spore print color:
Purple!
Bruising:
Bruises everywhere you touch this thing! Gills, cap/slightly, and stem mostly.Other information:Tried 1 SMALL mushroom/veil unbroken. Felt nausea and had diarrhea next morning. No severe stomach pains or vomiting. New to mushrooms but i think i felt a little ummm gone... cant say certain things on the internet.


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    #23437469 - 07/13/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Mushroom I.D [Re: TrentHelp]
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    #23437479 - 07/13/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Mushroom I.D [Re: TrentHelp]
    #23437559 - 07/13/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hi there,

Check this out, https://www.shroomery.org/5286/How-do-I-put-pictures-in-my-post

Makes it much easier for others to view the pictures  :super:


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Re: Mushroom I.D [Re: TrentHelp]
    #23437560 - 07/13/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Psilocybe cubensis, but i'm no TI.

IMO that nausea and diarrhea was coincidental.  meaning that it was probably something else you ate the day before the episode or it was a result of something hitching a ride on that mushroom, but not a natural constituent of the species.  or i guess you could be sensitive to something within the fruit body but i've never known anyone to have that reaction to such a small sample.  ETA: but of course the chitin in mushrooms is not digestible in the human gut so i guess it's possible that even a very small sample could cause the issues you mention 

have you eaten cubes before?


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Re: Mushroom I.D [Re: relic]
    #23437595 - 07/13/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That's understandable considering i made a pot of tea that was way to concentrated with a regular tea packet! Lmao!!! after downing that, i started too feel sick. i puked once then felt hella better. Only to feel just a little nausea through the night because of the mushrooms of course. Was just considering all that could happen to my health and wanted to be sure! thanks!

i have tried mushrooms before from people that told me they were good and felt nausea for just 30 mins then felt awesome after. So to answer your question no.


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Re: Mushroom I.D [Re: relic]
    #23437632 - 07/13/16 11:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

i get the same exact reaction to fresh, too strongly brewed tea when i drink it on an empty to partially full stomach; severe nausea that only many, many years of indulging in nausea producing activities has allowed me to mostly control.  but i still avoid strong tea in the morning or on an empty stomach because i hate having to choke back an oncoming puke.

you need to eat something more like 2g to 3.5g (dry) of your collected mushrooms to experience something special.  they are definitely active but again, i'm not a TI.

and i guess that chitin is not TOTALLY indigestible by humans. some have the ability to digest quite a bit and others have such a low quantity of chitinases in their gut that they they have near complete inability to digest it.

source:  Role of Chitinases in the Human Stomach for Digestion of Chitin


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Re: Mushroom I.D [Re: relic]
    #23437646 - 07/13/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks! If i get a picture of the patch they came out of you think that could help a little on the I.D? And i have a sensitive stomach as well... kinda sucks the fun out of eating mushrooms.. any tips on helping nausea our maybe eliminating it?  Much help man! god bless


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Re: Mushroom I.D [Re: TrentHelp]
    #23437700 - 07/13/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

you're welcome and welcome to the shroomery.

a TI should be along any time now and take a look at this thread to confirm.  however, you've already got plenty of info, good pics, and i'm sure of the ID, but out of an abundance of caution i don't recommend that anyone eat any mushroom that i haven't held in my hand and ID'd myself.  it's an etiquette and harm reduction thing, ya know? 

but yes, 'in situ' pics are always welcomed, sometimes admired, and will help in the verification.

to alleviate stomach upset you can extract the goodness into an acidic water solution.  the following is my adaptation of the recipe and technique (but not one i personally developed or discovered or whatever):

-grind your weighed, cracker-dry mushroom dose
-boil water and take the water off the heat to cool slightly (IE: not too damn hot)
-juice two or three limes into an insulated coffee mug
-slice some fresh ginger root; i use about 3 or 4 US quarter sized slices
-add the ground mushroom dose and the ginger slices to the mug and top off with about 4-6 oz of hot water
-stir for a minute and cover the mug
-every few mins either swirl the mug or lift the lid and stir
-steep for about 20 mins with the aforementioned occasional stirring
-add honey to sweeten to your satisfaction
-for this step you have two choices:  you can either strain out the mushroom and ginger slices (an old but clean t-shirt that wasn't washed with fabric softener or a muslin bag works well) or you can do it like the cowboys made coffee on the range...take some very cold water and slowly drizzle the cold water into your mug.  the cold water sinks and carries both the mushroom pieces and ginger slices to the bottom (or the coffee grounds when making camp coffee)

then drink the resulting extraction and prepare to blast off, especially if you have an empty stomach.  IME and the experience of those i've prepared this for, it can start to hit you within as little as 10 mins (!) and it hits veerrrrryyy hard for the first 20-40 mins.  that initial rush is sometimes a bit overwhelming to the uninitiated and can cause an almost drunken inebriation-like feeling if your dose is large enough.  but after that initial period it levels off and is a very nice ride.

the effects are not as long lasting when done like this and you have to get over that initial hump in the journey, but it virtually to completely eliminates stomach upset and gastric problems associated with eating raw mushrooms.

note:  lime juice is very acidic so make sure to wash your mouth out after drinking the solution or it could damage the enamel on your teeth.

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Re: Mushroom I.D [Re: TrentHelp] * 1
    #23437723 - 07/13/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Sit tight and a Trusted Identifier will come along and ID them.

Here are some tips to deal with nausea

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1609746

Have fun!

:letyourspiritsoar:


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Re: Mushroom I.D [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23437889 - 07/13/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Psilocybe cubensis.

And I also suggest making shroom tea. It kills any bacteria and you don't have to eat the nondigestible mushroom tissue.


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Re: Mushroom I.D [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23438196 - 07/13/16 04:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

h0ldthedoor said:
Sit tight and a Trusted Identifier will come along and ID them.

Here are some tips to deal with nausea

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1609746

Have fun!

:letyourspiritsoar:




that's all well and good and good on ya for posting it for him/her. +1

but frankly, i've always accepted that it's a given and dealt with it ever since an experienced tripper told me 30+ years ago that any negative physical reaction(s) like that come with the territory and that one of two things is going to happen: 

1) the slight nausea, or knot in the stomach, or strange feeling in the lower to middle esophagus, or the gassiness will go away on its own.
2) i'll eventually just purge and rock on with the fun.

i've tried many of the things in that thread over the last couple decades and the only thing that always works for me is to make tea using the method and ingredients i outlined.  cannabis generally works for some types of nausea, but i don't like it at all during the first half of my trip.  some of those other suggestions are too hokey for me to give serious consideration, though.

essentially fasting and/or then sitting still and meditating before i dose is going to make me not experience nausea?  by what action?  if i had some guru level meditation super powers then yes, maybe i could will it away by clearing my mind.  but i'll need to level up a couple hundred times before i can consciously control a reflex like nausea with my mind.

but again, good lookin out for the OP. :thumbup:


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Re: Mushroom I.D [Re: relic]
    #23438811 - 07/13/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I could not agree more relic! My body does not agree with most of the meditation and ways to reduce nausea...  i just made the tea with honey but sadly no ginger. i just used a reg tea bag and filled it up! Lets see how tea works!!!


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Re: Mushroom I.D [Re: TrentHelp]
    #23440807 - 07/14/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

how'd it go?


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Re: Mushroom I.D [Re: relic]
    #23441075 - 07/14/16 02:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Great! I Felt little nausea and the tea tasted good actually. I filled the packet with 3 grams of dried mushroom. Did not TRIP but vision was definitely affected. After boiling the water I let it set for just a minute and poured it into a cup. I tried to follow the instructions pretty close but had no ginger and instead of straining the dried powdered mushroom i just emptied a tea packet and filled that. Worked great. I also added a little lemon juice instead of lime because that is all i had at the time. Oh, and i am not able to get a picture of the last patch... long story short, not allowed in that field anymore. Not sure if the length of the ride was due to the amount or the fact that i tried it the night before but it only lasted about 3 hours.


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Re: Mushroom I.D [Re: TrentHelp]
    #23441277 - 07/14/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

your experience  :thumbup:

not having access to the field anymore  :thumbdown:

there are more fields out there.  maybe you'll find another that produces.  was that 3g fully dry or not dry?  just curious.  and the very small dose the night before definitely could have affected the strength of your experience, but the length was probably due to the extraction (and it might not have been a full extraction).

best of luck in the future.


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Re: Mushroom I.D [Re: relic]
    #23455719 - 07/19/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The 3 grams was so dry if i squeezed it hard enough it would have turned into crumbs. I Made the tea by boiling water for just 1 min then pouring into cup after cooling for 2-3 mins. I had the mushrooms in a tea bag and dipped it for about 15-20 because the water was still warm. then squeezed the tea bag at the end.


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