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GYMNOPILUS vs GALERINA
    #23437417 - 07/13/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I was confident enought about the genus gymnopilus that i will be hunting for in the next few days UNTIL i found out about galerinas.
I made some research and i couldnt find any consistent info about the difference between gymnopilus and some galerina species (poisonous some even deadly).
So this got me really worried the only way i think to differenciate them is by the taste (bitter for gyms and idk for galerina can someone tell me?) And also gyms have scaly caps and gals dont.
BUT i really wont be relying on so little information for the risk of killing myself.
Spore print is said to be same color.
Size is very unreliable (you can find small gyms)
Some said they found gyms with soft caps.
I really dont want to end up dead or start tripping and thinking that im going to die because i will be doubting my id of the mushroom i ate 30min ago when in this state of mind.
So what can i do (macroscopically) to differenciate gyms from a deadly galerina.
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Re: GYMNOPILUS vs GALERINA [Re: flyingBanana420] * 1
    #23437489 - 07/13/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah...that's why I don't mess with small gyms. The only one i would consider trying are the big laughing gyms...even then, I would look for bluing.


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Re: GYMNOPILUS vs GALERINA [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23437636 - 07/13/16 11:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Galerina have a light brown spore print. Gymnopilus can be rusty, but distinctly orange. Dig them out of the wood a little (take pictures first) to see if there are any green aborts or signs of bruising at the base. Just make sure to keep your collections separate and with notes... post pics on the Shroomery before you eat anything! Gyms are gems!


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Re: GYMNOPILUS vs GALERINA [Re: swampyAppleseed]
    #23437794 - 07/13/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I will surely post pics but i will eat them fresh i dont have a lot of time so i will need fast ID if i ever found any and from all the posts i saw they were all hesitant and saying that its a risk or idk.
But is the sporeprint a really good difference or it can be very variating for those mushrooms (expl: gyms having a brownish sporeprint or not very orange or galerinas having a kind of orange spores) or it wont happen?
And also are gyms generally rare to find? (Any kind of active gym)


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Re: GYMNOPILUS vs GALERINA [Re: flyingBanana420]
    #23438208 - 07/13/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Anyone help ?


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Re: GYMNOPILUS vs GALERINA [Re: flyingBanana420]
    #23441014 - 07/14/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

all the Gymnopilus i've seen have been wayyyy beefier than the Galerinas i've seen even if they're similar in height/length.  the pileus and stipes are thicker & have different textures & ornamentation and the caps develop differently.  gyms are just straight up meatier at all stages of development.  Galerinas are often fragile little things.

and gyms often grow in clusters whereas i haven't seen a cluster of Galerina in person.  i've seen many on the same log, yeah, but not a true cluster.

get out there and collect some mushrooms.  i think you'll see that they just aren't very similar macroscopically speaking.


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Re: GYMNOPILUS vs GALERINA [Re: relic]
    #23441147 - 07/14/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ok thanks i think that i can diferenciate them better now but the path to the forest today was full of mud and water no way of getting there i will wait a couple of days to be able to go there.


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Re: GYMNOPILUS vs GALERINA [Re: swampyAppleseed]
    #23441195 - 07/14/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Galerina have a light brown spore print. Gymnopilus can be rusty, but distinctly orange. Dig them out of the wood a little (take pictures first) to see if there are any green aborts or signs of bruising at the base. Just make sure to keep your collections separate and with notes... post pics on the Shroomery before you eat anything! Gyms are gems!






I think Galerina and Gymnopilus have the same color spore prints.


Galerina won't be bitter like Gymnopilus are, and have smoother caps.


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Re: GYMNOPILUS vs GALERINA [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #23441291 - 07/14/16 04:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Some say that they ate gyms that werent bitter and they were active so do galerinas have a distinct taste/smell to diferenciate? Say if i ate them and they werent bitter how can i know if it is galerina.


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Re: GYMNOPILUS vs GALERINA [Re: flyingBanana420]
    #23441432 - 07/14/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Galerinas have no distinct taste/smell, just slightly mushroomy.

Most Gymnopilus species are bitter bit not all.

The maximum cap size on Galerina is 4 cm, so stick to species which are larger than that - or have red squamules on the top of the cap.


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Re: GYMNOPILUS vs GALERINA [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #23535937 - 08/12/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I think Galerina get big also


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Re: GYMNOPILUS vs GALERINA [Re: Cameron1996]
    #23536422 - 08/12/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I think Galerina get big also




Not as big as many Gymnopilus - the description of Galerina marginata on Mushroomexpert starts off with:  Cap: 1.5-5 cm (rarely up to 8 cm)


Also, Galerina always has a smooth cap and Gymnopilus often has a squamulose / fibrous cap.


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Re: GYMNOPILUS vs GALERINA [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #23542139 - 08/14/16 08:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Here's a picture of some galerina I found on the internet


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Re: GYMNOPILUS vs GALERINA [Re: Cameron1996]
    #23543582 - 08/15/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Pic 5 is not Galerina.


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Re: GYMNOPILUS vs GALERINA [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #23582153 - 08/26/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thats not what the website said


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    #23582439 - 08/27/16 03:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: GYMNOPILUS vs GALERINA [Re: stevo]
    #23582885 - 08/27/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I found these spread out in a field while walking my dog. Could someone please help me identify them?


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Re: GYMNOPILUS vs GALERINA [Re: Trippybastard]
    #23582898 - 08/27/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I found these spread out in a field while walking my dog. Could someone please help me identify them?






Agrocybe gets my vote, not active.


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Re: GYMNOPILUS vs GALERINA [Re: flyingBanana420]
    #23583123 - 08/27/16 10:54 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Some say that they ate gyms that werent bitter and they were active so do galerinas have a distinct taste/smell to diferenciate? Say if i ate them and they werent bitter how can i know if it is Galerina.



They were probably dry because most are bitter, but then again I haven't tasted all types of Gyms only a few. Like Alan said look at the caps surface. Gyms are usually rough & have different shape caps while the Galarina has a smoothe cap & they are usually all round. With all that said just save the ones you think are good candidate for Gyms, take pics, and post on here to get a pos. I.D. Good Luck out there hunting. Once you start picking them you will know them forever I'm sure. Peace & Love


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