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riper33
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Green mold? Wet Spot on second cake? What to do?
#23437374 - 07/13/16 09:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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My first grow. I made a similar post on reddit which can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/shrooms/comments/4sn9dv/is_the_white_fluff_mold/
So these have been in the fruiting chamber for 2 nights now. They were already pretty big pins in the jar as one corner of the jar was taking longer to colonize. A bit of this white fluff began growing on the shrooms while they were already in the jar. Now I know the white fluff is just mycelium, but another user pointed out that there might be green mold on the top of the cake.
A few pics of my grow here: http://imgur.com/a/ODXXF
Please advice on how to deal with this. I searched previous posts and some say the shrooms will be fine and can be eaten. Some say the cake should be removed from my house to prevent more spores from releasing. What should I do in this situation.
The first pic in the album shows what looks like some kind of bacterial infection on my second cake. Shroomery tells me it could be wet spot bacteria. Should I just throw this out or can it be killed?
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Re: Green mold? Wet Spot on second cake? What to do? [Re: riper33]
#23437406 - 07/13/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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it looks like trich, and if so its already too late. The green on trich indicates it's sporulating. What I would do is immediately isolate it in another container and let the mushies grow a few days. Then clean your SGFC cause it's probably got spores all over inside.
You might be able to get away with a few mushrooms but after that flush is done I would toss that cake into a compost pile somewhere.
This is just my opinion though, I'm no tek.
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Re: Green mold? Wet Spot on second cake? What to do? [Re: Mushierage]
#23437416 - 07/13/16 09:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Also, the white fluff near the stalks looks like Myc. When it does that you generally need to increase your fae. (Fan it a little more often because the co2 levels may be a lil too high.)
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Re: Green mold? Wet Spot on second cake? What to do? [Re: Mushierage]
#23437465 - 07/13/16 09:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mushierage said: Also, the white fluff near the stalks looks like Myc. When it does that you generally need to increase your fae. (Fan it a little more often because the co2 levels may be a lil too high.)
For my second cake, I will just get a bigger fruiting chamber and drill more holes. I have a fan pointed away from my SGFC right now. Should I move it to face them?
Thanks for this info. Mainly, do you have any idea about the possible wet spot contamination on my other cake? It's already pinning, but I'm not sure if it would be safe to fruit.
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Re: Green mold? Wet Spot on second cake? What to do? [Re: riper33]
#23437524 - 07/13/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shouldn't be using a fan at all for a SGFC. Defeats the purpose. Wet spot looks like bacteria but can't be sure with a pic. Looks like they're both contaminated.
Fuzzy feet are pretty common and you shouldn't worry too much about it. You probably won't make it go away. Especially just by fanning more. Fanning is not FAE.
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Re: Green mold? Wet Spot on second cake? What to do? [Re: kxripps]
#23437537 - 07/13/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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kxripps said: Shouldn't be using a fan at all for a SGFC. Defeats the purpose. Wet spot looks like bacteria but can't be sure with a pic. Looks like they're both contaminated.
Fuzzy feet are pretty common and you shouldn't worry too much about it. You probably won't make it go away. Especially just by fanning more. Fanning is not FAE.
It's not a fan for the SGFC, but just one I use for myself. I keep it pointed away from the chamber and towards me.
I now know that I can harvest this flush for my fruiting cake and then toss it out. What about the one with bacteria? I has a few pins already. Can I get a harvest of that one too, or is it just bunk now?
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Re: Green mold? Wet Spot on second cake? What to do? [Re: riper33]
#23437554 - 07/13/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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riper33 said:
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kxripps said: Shouldn't be using a fan at all for a SGFC. Defeats the purpose. Wet spot looks like bacteria but can't be sure with a pic. Looks like they're both contaminated.
Fuzzy feet are pretty common and you shouldn't worry too much about it. You probably won't make it go away. Especially just by fanning more. Fanning is not FAE.
It's not a fan for the SGFC, but just one I use for myself. I keep it pointed away from the chamber and towards me.
I now know that I can harvest this flush for my fruiting cake and then toss it out. What about the one with bacteria? I has a few pins already. Can I get a harvest of that one too, or is it just bunk now?
I see. Well fans disrupt the natural current in the room. Doesn't help the sgfc. Up to you Whether you keep it in the room or not.
I would try to fruit the cake anyway but that's just me. Probably because I don't really care if I get anything out of my cakes. Definitely ditch the moldy one though
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Re: Green mold? Wet Spot on second cake? What to do? [Re: kxripps]
#23437600 - 07/13/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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kxripps said:
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riper33 said:
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kxripps said: Shouldn't be using a fan at all for a SGFC. Defeats the purpose. Wet spot looks like bacteria but can't be sure with a pic. Looks like they're both contaminated.
Fuzzy feet are pretty common and you shouldn't worry too much about it. You probably won't make it go away. Especially just by fanning more. Fanning is not FAE.
It's not a fan for the SGFC, but just one I use for myself. I keep it pointed away from the chamber and towards me.
I now know that I can harvest this flush for my fruiting cake and then toss it out. What about the one with bacteria? I has a few pins already. Can I get a harvest of that one too, or is it just bunk now?
I see. Well fans disrupt the natural current in the room. Doesn't help the sgfc. Up to you Whether you keep it in the room or not.
I would try to fruit the cake anyway but that's just me. Probably because I don't really care if I get anything out of my cakes. Definitely ditch the moldy one though
This is my first grow, so I don't care what comes out of my cakes either. Just the fact that 2 of 3 of my jars reached complete colonization is satisfaction enough. I knew I was lax in sterility measures and so I'm not really surprised they got contaminated.
Getting to eat my own mushrooms means success for this attempt. Once I harvest the first flush and dispose both these cakes, I will do a proper grow with 5-6 jars and give special attention to sterility.
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Re: Green mold? Wet Spot on second cake? What to do? [Re: riper33]
#23437613 - 07/13/16 11:01 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Good stuff man. Keep positive, keep at it and keep reading.
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Re: Green mold? Wet Spot on second cake? What to do? [Re: riper33]
#23437629 - 07/13/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mushierage said: Also, the white fluff near the stalks looks like Myc. When it does that you generally need to increase your fae. (Fan it a little more often because the co2 levels may be a lil too high.)
For my second cake, I will just get a bigger fruiting chamber and drill more holes. I have a fan pointed away from my SGFC right now. Should I move it to face them?
Thanks for this info. Mainly, do you have any idea about the possible wet spot contamination on my other cake? It's already pinning, but I'm not sure if it would be safe to fruit.
My opinion is this: I would go ahead and fruit to see what it does. You're already going to have to clean your SGFC or use another one and Lysol the fuck out of the area it's in. If it's too bad, toss it.
Also, I should clarify what I meant in my post. Fanning is not a replacement for FAE and you really should only use a fan in the room if your cakes are too wet, or you need a "fast evaporate" off the cakes. Otherwise I agree with kx, don't use a fan as it'll disrupt natural room air currents. The term "Fanning" is meant to remove excess co2 and is done in conjunction with misting the cakes to replace moisture after the cakes evaporate moisture, or need a bit of rehydration for a larger and more robust fruit.
For actual FAE, if you follow RRs tips on drilling 1/4 inch holes every 2 inches in all sides of your SGFC and elevate it at least a couple feet off the ground, your FAE should get better.
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Re: Green mold? Wet Spot on second cake? What to do? [Re: Mushierage]
#23437678 - 07/13/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mushierage said:
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riper33 said:
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Mushierage said: Also, the white fluff near the stalks looks like Myc. When it does that you generally need to increase your fae. (Fan it a little more often because the co2 levels may be a lil too high.)
For my second cake, I will just get a bigger fruiting chamber and drill more holes. I have a fan pointed away from my SGFC right now. Should I move it to face them?
Thanks for this info. Mainly, do you have any idea about the possible wet spot contamination on my other cake? It's already pinning, but I'm not sure if it would be safe to fruit.
My opinion is this: I would go ahead and fruit to see what it does. You're already going to have to clean your SGFC or use another one and Lysol the fuck out of the area it's in. If it's too bad, toss it.
Also, I should clarify what I meant in my post. Fanning is not a replacement for FAE and you really should only use a fan in the room if your cakes are too wet, or you need a "fast evaporate" off the cakes. Otherwise I agree with kx, don't use a fan as it'll disrupt natural room air currents. The term "Fanning" is meant to remove excess co2 and is done in conjunction with misting the cakes to replace moisture after the cakes evaporate moisture, or need a bit of rehydration for a larger and more robust fruit.
For actual FAE, if you follow RRs tips on drilling 1/4 inch holes every 2 inches in all sides of your SGFC and elevate it at least a couple feet off the ground, your FAE should get better.
I am getting a new storage box for my other cake, and I'll drill exactly as you've recommended. I have very few holes in this one so that's clearly a problem. Btw, will it be fine for this flush (I won't be using this box again anyway as it's too small) or should I drill more holes in this one too?
I have a fan in my room because it does get somewhat hot inside and I used it even when I didn't have the shrooms fruiting in my room. I leave it on even when I am not in my room, but from now on, I'll use it only when I need it.
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Re: Green mold? Wet Spot on second cake? What to do? [Re: riper33]
#23437710 - 07/13/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, it should be fine. The fuzzy feet aren't going to hurt you or anything. Neither will the green mold. The potential bacterial contamination is a different story though, so watch it closely. If it's too bad, toss it out and don't eat the fruits if they look rotten. It can make you sick.
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Re: Green mold? Wet Spot on second cake? What to do? [Re: riper33]
#23437731 - 07/13/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nice. I also read on some other post here that Bacillus ("wet spot") is not inherently harmful. The person suggested that as long as the shrooms look healthy, bacteria is under control and not a concern.
I will ask here with more pictures to check if they are in fact growing healthy.
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