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Leeq
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Making potent mushroom tincture/liquid
#23436907 - 07/13/16 03:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey guys. I want to be able to make a liquid tincture that would be doses much like LSD. Was was wondering if it's possible to get a concentrated ethanol where anywhere from 1 - 5 drops of a pippette equals 2/3g of mushroom.
Can anyone point me to extractions for this?
Have found similr extractions, but they always have it at concentrations of 5ml to 3g or so,rather than 5 drops of a pippete.
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Re: Making potent mushroom tincture/liquid [Re: Leeq]
#23436951 - 07/13/16 04:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pretty sure this isn't a cultivation topic.. Getting the concentration you're looking for is not possible with crude extractions anyway, would probably be easier to just synth the shit at that rate.
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Re: Making potent mushroom tincture/liquid [Re: Inocuole]
#23436957 - 07/13/16 04:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Pretty sure this isn't a cultivation topic.. Getting the concentration you're looking for is not possible with crude extractions anyway, would probably be easier to just synth the shit at that rate.
synth the shit?
and what about this? surely this could be done, but have the end result, the goo, re-dissolved in to ethanol?
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Re: Making potent mushroom tincture/liquid [Re: Leeq]
#23437047 - 07/13/16 06:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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O.o yeah fuck tinctures. I tried to do what you're wanting. Really didn't work. Would have to do some defatting and what not. I like my shroom hash.
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Re: Making potent mushroom tincture/liquid [Re: Mad Season]
#23437109 - 07/13/16 06:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: O.o yeah fuck tinctures. I tried to do what you're wanting. Really didn't work. Would have to do some defatting and what not. I like my shroom hash.
defatting?
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Re: Making potent mushroom tincture/liquid [Re: Leeq]
#23437292 - 07/13/16 08:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok well before attempting an extraction you should look up exactly what an extraction entails. "Synth" means to synthesize one chemical into another. Requires chemistry know-how so don't bother.
Defatting is exactly what it sounds like: Removing the fat from the solution being extracted. This would be done by using a solvent to remove the fat while leaving the desired alkaloids in solution by acidification.
Again this would all just be a waste of time and your best bet would be to just make tea or just eat the mushrooms.
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Re: Making potent mushroom tincture/liquid [Re: Leeq]
#23437550 - 07/13/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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There is a tek to distill it into sugar.
-------------------- If you want to eat->https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8553541 Bag sealers are to bulky (my hood isn't that big) https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28622922
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Re: Making potent mushroom tincture/liquid [Re: Leeq]
#23437890 - 07/13/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It is possible to make psilocybin essential oil.
The best way is to do a steam distillation. You need either a still with column and sieve or a Soxhlet extractor.
Run the hydrosol which still comes from through a separatory funnel to isolate the essential oil. They are a few drops of oil per ounce of mushrooms dry, but it is very pure.
Another possibility is to put the mushrooms in water and reduce it by half in a double boiler. This method gives you a very strong tea.
Each set of instructions, how to make lavender oil should be enough for fungal oil.
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Re: Making potent mushroom tincture/liquid [Re: JesseCruz]
#23437953 - 07/13/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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They're very water soluble. Make tea and boil it down. Ice cube it or add ethanol back in if you want
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Re: Making potent mushroom tincture/liquid [Re: JesseCruz]
#23438492 - 07/13/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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have you ever attempted or tried the psilocybin essential oil?
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Inocuole
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I think we all know full well that he hasn't. Psilocybin essential oil.
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Re: Making potent mushroom tincture/liquid [Re: Inocuole]
#23439060 - 07/13/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That feeling when you don't know you said something that reveals that you don't know what you're talking about
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Re: Making potent mushroom tincture/liquid [Re: Mad Season]
#23439119 - 07/13/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: O.o yeah fuck tinctures. I tried to do what you're wanting. Really didn't work. Would have to do some defatting and what not. I like my shroom hash.
do tell, Mad. What is this 'shroom hash' you speak of?
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Re: Making potent mushroom tincture/liquid [Re: dankington]
#23439132 - 07/13/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I may try vacuum sublimation some day...
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Re: Making potent mushroom tincture/liquid [Re: Snazz]
#23439198 - 07/13/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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dankington said:
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Mad Season said: O.o yeah fuck tinctures. I tried to do what you're wanting. Really didn't work. Would have to do some defatting and what not. I like my shroom hash.
do tell, Mad. What is this 'shroom hash' you speak of?
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Mad Season said:

I try to aim for this. Idgaf about a few spores. Just takes a 2 second towel wipe. They look presentable to me, and I haven't seen any potency differences 
When it's like this.. 

I turned this harvest into this

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Mad Season said: 70% pure iso alcohol extraction. Ground up the black shrooms and did 3 pulls from it. Let it all evaporate and it turned into basically shroom hash. I didn't do any defatting or anything. I don't mind it being all hash-like xD
.5g is about a 3g dose, and that ball on the right is a pre-measured .5g dose
Definitely not a tincture, and there's no fricken way I could have turned it into a small dose like 5 drops is 3g without defatting. In this form, it's like only well stored in the freezer. Started losing a noticeable amount of potency after about 6 months in open air.
P.S. I live in a VERY dry climate (under 10-20% rH a lot), so I'd imagine places more humid couldn't have anywhere near the same amount of potency retained in open air.
Edited by Mad Season (07/13/16 09:36 PM)
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Re: Making potent mushroom tincture/liquid [Re: Mad Season]
#23439207 - 07/13/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That looks fuckin disgusting...
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Re: Making potent mushroom tincture/liquid [Re: Mad Season]
#23439215 - 07/13/16 09:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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interesting. Thanks for that! I've definitely had specimens that could have used that route! I bet it tastes like absolute ass tho!
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Re: Making potent mushroom tincture/liquid [Re: dankington]
#23439256 - 07/13/16 09:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It tastes and smells literally exactly like shrooms lol. Yeah inoc it ain't pretty. There's a reason I don't recommend it to people. It was much more work than necessary and didn't even turn out like how I wanted lol!
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Re: Making potent mushroom tincture/liquid [Re: JesseCruz]
#23439634 - 07/14/16 12:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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JesseCruz said: It is possible to make psilocybin essential oil.
The best way is to do a steam distillation. You need either a still with column and sieve or a Soxhlet extractor.
Run the hydrosol which still comes from through a separatory funnel to isolate the essential oil. They are a few drops of oil per ounce of mushrooms dry, but it is very pure.
Another possibility is to put the mushrooms in water and reduce it by half in a double boiler. This method gives you a very strong tea.
Each set of instructions, how to make lavender oil should be enough for fungal oil.
Hows this work if the actives are water soluble. Don't the actives escape with the steam that is leaving, as well?
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Re: Making potent mushroom tincture/liquid [Re: camplo]
#23439710 - 07/14/16 12:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol actives escaping into the steam. If that worked you could have hallucinogenic saunas.
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