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zathras
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Getting my feet back into the water! Time for another bulk grow log! Lets hope I don't fuck it up!
#23436046 - 07/12/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hello Shroomery! I’m kind of back in action after being killed off by mold this spring. But now I’m ready to grow some mushies! I figured I would wait to post a log until I had some stuff that would be fruiting in a few days, and the hopeful we will see successive grows onto into the future! Hope you can slog through this gibberish I have posted below! Bear with me, I still am very much a noooooob.
After attempting some mediocre grows this winter and into the early spring where my op was decimated by a few rainy days that just brought on that mold, it is time for me to rise from the ashes and get back to business. After wiping away my tears I decided to go full force into it! I have had some good luck with grass seed (also had a big bag left over) and with only a few contaminated and old pasty plates I decided to try to start some MS grass seed masters while working on cloning, sectioning, and hopefully isolating some strains that I would like to work with in the future.
The goal this round is to produce AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE! While also calculating loss and figuring out ways to lower my loss in the future.
I live in a nasty ass house where mold is a real killer so I’m playing the numbers and running that PC almost every other day crammed full of jars.
How I began my 3rdish journey into bulk:
 6/5 - Starting at the beginning of June (6/5) I got to work, at first messing around with grass seed in P5 ziplock containers. The goal here was to produce masters to use for G2G while the agar cultures where finding their way into the right direction. I use a fooman’s like tek for grass seed prep because I found too much cooking gives me a mush where as too little soak gets me too dry. Like goldilocks I was able to fine the middle after a few tries. That being bring water to boil, turn off heat, move to cool burning, fill with grass seed, cover and wait and hour, drain, rinse and toss that shit into your jars.

I at first was very excited about trying out these P5 ziplocks but found them harder to work with than jars and even if it is just psychological I feel like like they were sturdy enough to keep those contams out.
Out of the 12 grass seed jars I sterilized over those two weeks only 6 ended up being useful. Not sure what I did wrong but boy oh boy did they end up sucking, especially the PE which I kind of expected and will find other ways of inoculating besides MS.
That being said 2 of those jars became G2G masters for WBS jars and 3 I decided to just case and throw in a tub, with on (the very slow but steady PE almost at that 100%)
6/19- Annoyed with the zip locks I moved on to 17 qt jars maybe an 1/8 full of grass seed and inoculated with MS. I was pushing for fast colinization, so that they could be dumped and expanded into more WBS jars. Of those 17, 3 were cased and thrown in a tub with the others, around 4 were garbage bacteria city the rest were used from WBS G2G transfers.
While looking for grain and the hardware store I came across Nyjer seed and man I thought it looked like grass seed so I figured that I would give it a shot. All 7 jars were a complete failure.
But finally I moved onto what to me seems like one of the easiest grains to work with WBS! Its cheap I can get it easily locally when I get tired with it I can feed the birds!
Oh wild bird seed how I am learning to love you!
THE STATE OF MY JARS!
6/25- I get started on making WBS jars for G2G and some tiger drop type situations I also did 8 half pints of Millet to give that one a shot (all MS) out of 8, 6 are left and one has already been spawned to bulk
6/26 - 7 half pint WBS KSS G2G (filled em too full doh) and one Creeper MS jar. Creeper got that ugly mold and the other jars are going slowly but surely.
       6/28 - I decide to use some plates for transfers and a few drops on 7 WBS jars, some worked wonders some didn’t a few have already been spawned to bulk
    
6/29 - 7 WBS jars inoculated with G2G from a Texas Orange cap grass seed master from 6/19
       6/30 - 7 WBS jars inoculated with G2G from KSS grass seed master from 6/5
      
7/5 - 3 x WBS Alacabenzi G2G from 6/19 grass seed master
  
4 x WBS Texas Orange Cap G2G from 6/19 grass seed master     7/7 - 4 x WBS KSS G3G from 6/19 grass seed master
Forgot to take photos lol
3 x WBS Alacabenzi G2G from 6/19 grass seed master
  
7/9 - 4 x WBS Matias Remero G2G from 6/19 grass seed master
   
3 x WBS KSS G2G from 6/19 grass seed master
  
7/12 - 4 x WBS PE blenderless LI
   
3 x WBS KSS G2G from 6/19 grass seed master
  
WHAT I”VE SPAWNED SO FAR!
6/30 - Spawned one Qt syzygy to CVG in what will be a little dub tub (my past mold experiences are making me weary of starting projects too bit but we will get there!) Spawned one Qt PE to CVG in dub tub

syzygy
  
PE

7/7 - Spawned a qt of KSS to CVG in little dub tub 7/9 - Spawned 2 x 1 qt AA+ dubs with CVG Spawned 1 qt KSS with CVG Spawned one small guy with a completed half pint of Red Boy to CVG in a small square zip lock container (will figure this out later lol)
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Cased 6 grass seed containers with CVG and put them in a tub, 3 in qt jars and 3 in small zip lock rounds
 How the Spawned bulk looks so far!
Syzygy is about to pin! It’s covered in knots can’t wait to see where it goes! Thanks for reading this crazy post but this lunatic! I'm having fun and I can't wait to show you where all this is going!
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CosmoKramer
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Re: Getting my feet back into the water! Time for another bulk grow log! Lets hope I don't fuck it up! [Re: zathras]
#23436104 - 07/12/16 08:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Is it just me or does the syzygy and PE tubs have dark greyish / green spots covering half the tub?
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zathras
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Re: Getting my feet back into the water! Time for another bulk grow log! Lets hope I don't fuck it up! [Re: CosmoKramer]
#23436135 - 07/12/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Could be, could be the light, I'm color blind so your guess is better than mine. I'm feeing confident on the syzygy but have never really been able to read PE. If it garbage at least its a little small tub and there are more on the way.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Getting my feet back into the water! Time for another bulk grow log! Lets hope I don't fuck it up! [Re: zathras]
#23436141 - 07/12/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah those tubs look sketchy. Especially the PE. Fingers crossed.
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zathras
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Re: Getting my feet back into the water! Time for another bulk grow log! Lets hope I don't fuck it up! [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23436150 - 07/12/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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They were sketchy spawn that I'm gambling on more or less. Figured I'd try some tiger drops on some not so trustworthy looking plates. I'm not worried about it, but I wouldn't mined a few fruits . I'm just shooting in all directions here to start, while I do the serious work everyday in the background. These sketchy guys just were the first to rear their ugly heads, lets hope they get more pretty.
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dankington
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Re: Getting my feet back into the water! Time for another bulk grow log! Lets hope I don't fuck it up! [Re: zathras]
#23436157 - 07/12/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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PS. just as a side note, Alacabenzi is one of those bullshit 'strains' I don't know what it really is, but I suspect it's a variant of the golden teacher. did you get that from spores101 by any chance? Good chance you'll be growing oysters before long.
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zathras
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Re: Getting my feet back into the water! Time for another bulk grow log! Lets hope I don't fuck it up! [Re: dankington]
#23436162 - 07/12/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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nah got it in a trade from someone on a popular link aggregator site. Other syringes from the seller have been awesome, and for 8 for 35$ I'll take a dud here or there.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Getting my feet back into the water! Time for another bulk grow log! Lets hope I don't fuck it up! [Re: zathras]
#23436275 - 07/12/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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All spores101 varieties are actually B+ except for the "great white monster" which of course is AA+. All are loaded to the gills with bacteria and oysters plus god knows what else.
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zathras
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Re: Getting my feet back into the water! Time for another bulk grow log! Lets hope I don't fuck it up! [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23436903 - 07/13/16 03:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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So I have read, and have stayed away from them because of this. I think these come from an amateur just trying to get started.Don't want to break the rules by talking more about them, but all other cultures looked great!
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zathras
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Re: Getting my feet back into the water! Time for another bulk grow log! Lets hope I don't fuck it up! [Re: zathras]
#23439489 - 07/13/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Another busy day in this wonderful cultivation hobby!
I got the pressure cooker to work again, and threw in 7 qt's of WBS 5 wide mouth pints of agar and 2 pints of water to use as blenderless LI. 4 of those WBS jars were knocked up with some KSS LI, and 3 with some Syzygy LI. I did a bit of agar work also, taking 3 PE transfers from one plate and 2 from a AA+ plate.

I spawned 2 tubs of Texas Orange Cap one with 5 qt of spawn the other with 4. I had one jar of AA+ that had finished up too so I threw that in a weird container that I have yet to find a top to, lol. I thought this was a great idea and did it first, but upon reaching the last monotub I noticed my CVG supplies were quite low. I'm going to have to go back and case this one soon for sure. I do like emptying these jars over and over again though, it makes me see how much of a cycling practice this hobby is.
  
All the dub tub trays looked fully colonized, so I "put them in fruiting" (put a tub on top).
     
The PE dub from early triched out and is getting dumped right now, ewwwwww. The spawn was from a super sketch drop of an ugly old plate so I wasn't expecting much lol.

But hey check it out, pins are starting to form on this weirdo syzygy dub tub!
 
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zathras
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Re: Getting my feet back into the water! Time for another bulk grow log! Lets hope I don't fuck it up! [Re: zathras]
#23440950 - 07/14/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well damn, I didn't want you guys to be right about those funky looking tubs, but some trich just popped up in that syzygy tub. I did a little surgery to maybe save it, but if it still looks shitty tomorrow its going in the trash.

At least I have 4 more going, two more monos, and some weird fruiting chambers... I'm making more of these dub tubs today also and anther mono. But fuck mold is my worst enemy. I am sure it was the spawn on these two. I took a gamble and used old plates to knock em up. You live you learn eh? Lets hope the others don't turn out like this, lol. 
at least I upped my cult game with this sweet set of shelves...
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zathras
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Re: Getting my feet back into the water! Time for another bulk grow log! Lets hope I don't fuck it up! [Re: zathras]
#23446461 - 07/16/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I decided to dump that syzygy tub, smelled like coconut and was getting nasty. I don't need that in my life. But I've been keeping at it, sterilizing more and more jars of WBS as the days go on. I've been trying the blenderless LI tek with sketchy results (most likely due to my sketchy plates). I think I like the way G2G had been working for me more. Ran the PC this morning and am soaking jars for 2 more monos, 1 KSS and 1 Alacabenzi (and yeah I know its a bullshit strain lol)

The 2 Texas orange cap monos are coming along nicely. I didn't have enough sub to case one so ended up getting some weird organic potting mix and casing it a day later. It looks like it is liking it just ok.
 
I spawed 3 more mini dubs 2 x PE and 1 Redboy along with one mono of KSS on 7/15. They all seem to be colonizing nicely so I'm hopeful for the future. I cased two of the mini dubs from 7/7 and 7/9 and they are looking ok also. I'm really liking how this Texas orange cap (cased at spawning) one is looking

But I'm real sketched out by this AA+ one (I got to get better at making clean spawn )

The cased grains are looking amazing and one container already has a few nice looking pins, I think these guys will blow up in no time at all. I'm loving all the knots you can see on the sides.
  
Bonus pics of plates I left too long and took transfers (and a pin I cloned) from.
 
All and all I'm just gunna keep on keeping on, I got more grass seed so I'm going back to working with them as masters for G2G to WBS.
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zathras
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Re: Getting my feet back into the water! Time for another bulk grow log! Lets hope I don't fuck it up! [Re: zathras]
#23452720 - 07/18/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well it looks like I am either terrible at growing mushrooms and making clean spawn, or the mold gods sure do hate me. It has also been hot as hell here and that is not making anything easier...
So I lost another tub to trich, just checked it this afternoon and shit was everywhere. Ugh. So it goes.
   
My other Texas orange cap tub is looking amazing and I got higher hopes for it (loosing another would kill me!)
 
A KSS tub seems to be going ok
 
My cased grains are doing well
 
One of my AA+ dub tubs just started pinning which is pretty cool (I know its dry as hell but today of all days my spray bottle broke, anyone else seem to go through a lot of them?)
 
This texas orange cap dub looks good also

I hope the mold will stay away from at least a few of these grows. I think my grow area is just fucked so I'm gunna have to play the numbers and just expect loss I guess.
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Re: Getting my feet back into the water! Time for another bulk grow log! Lets hope I don't fuck it up! [Re: zathras]
#23452762 - 07/18/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I doubt it's the grow area. . .
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zathras
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Re: Getting my feet back into the water! Time for another bulk grow log! Lets hope I don't fuck it up! [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23452780 - 07/18/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You are right. Grower error and dirty spawn. I got a long way to go in terms of learning...
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Re: Getting my feet back into the water! Time for another bulk grow log! Lets hope I don't fuck it up! [Re: zathras]
#23452859 - 07/18/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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yep. If it were the environment, I'd never be able to grow a goddamned thing. Keep at it, brother man! Summer's tough, remember that. Hard on all of us cultivators.
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zathras
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Re: Getting my feet back into the water! Time for another bulk grow log! Lets hope I don't fuck it up! [Re: dankington]
#23453174 - 07/18/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for the support dank! This cultivator is gunna keep on trucking.
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zathras
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Re: Getting my feet back into the water! Time for another bulk grow log! Lets hope I don't fuck it up! [Re: zathras]
#23461908 - 07/21/16 07:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Aaaaand another one bites the dust. Mold's been bumming me out for a little minute now, god damn! I'm bad at growing mushrooms, haha
 
But I have a lot of pins in other places so all is not lost! Many of the other dub tubs are coming along.
 
 
This Alacabenzi mono spawned 7/16 is looking pretty good

So is this KSS tub also 7/16

This kss tub from 7/14 looks like its gunna show me some pins soon!
 
This Texas orange cap tub is looking amazing and like it is just about to explode
    
The cased grains are chugging along, I'm liking the Texas in the glass jar a lot.
   
As I keep producing spawn I need to focus more on making CLEAN spawn. I'm doing something wrong in the SAB or my first time with g2g just was shitty and maybe I didn't prep my WBS right. All kinds of things could be going wrong and are because this idiot ended up doing a lot of his sterile work while spun on L, haha. Time to take this shit more seriously
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Re: Getting my feet back into the water! Time for another bulk grow log! Lets hope I don't fuck it up! [Re: zathras]
#23461933 - 07/21/16 08:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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A lot of the jars you posted didn't look good. Think maybe you should pay attention to the way they look so when the tubs fail, you'll know what your looking for in your jars. Save you a lot of time.
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zathras
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Re: Getting my feet back into the water! Time for another bulk grow log! Lets hope I don't fuck it up! [Re: Bobabouy]
#23461950 - 07/21/16 08:14 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yuuuup, ended up dumping about 15 - 20 of em. Obvious bacteria. haha. I was hoping more for something like 20% loss instead of the 50%+ I'm getting but I did only start doing this a few months ago back in January. I slack with following procedures, and as a result end up where I am with lost time tubs and jars. So it goes, but I gotta tighten my game up so I don't feel so embarrassed posting on these boards.
I've been watching some other users who started around the same time as me and they all seem to be talking like experts and post at least decent looking grows. Maybe I'm just going too scatter shot and hoping the dice land in my favor. I enjoy this hobby so I am gunna just keep chipping away at how shitty I am at everything hahahaha.
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