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Re: Any lucid dreamers out there? [Re: g00ru]
    #23451225 - 07/17/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Sleep paralysis is the stage where you are primed for an OBE. Just will yourself to float up and out of your body. If you get sleep paralysis you are lucky- you are naturally primed for OBE.


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Re: Any lucid dreamers out there? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23451259 - 07/17/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Sleep paralysis helped me learn to control my dreams to a large degree. But the origin of sleep paralysis and hypnagogic hallucination for me was insomnia I had suffered from for many years in my teenage years and early 20s.

When my insomnia stopped, so did the sleep paralysis and hypnagogic hallucinations, however I became interested in lucid dreaming as there was that void.

Sleep paralysis is a good sign that you are printed for lucid dreaming for sure, but it's not a necessary component by any means. In my experience, you can have more vivid and memorable dream experiences with more powerful conscious control with more rest than less. I have my most lucid experiences with 9 hours of sleep as opposed to less sleep these days.


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Re: Any lucid dreamers out there? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23451263 - 07/17/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That is, sleep paralysis that I awaken to as opposed to that which I bring willfully on myself.


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Re: Any lucid dreamers out there? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #23451420 - 07/17/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I used to experiment with herbs to lucid dream. I didn't read through the thread to see if any were mentioned but one particular one completely turned me off to experimenting further. I somehow had the same dream over and over again with a certain herb called dream root or something similar. While I remember this dream in great detail, I had zero control over it while knowing I was dreaming.
I'm in a world that's inside out if you will, I'm walking naked on dirt, I dig my foot into it and there is grass underneath, I walk up to a bare tree and cut it to find bark underneath, the sky is a hazy red with barren but hilly surroundings, I can see people with no skin in the distance but I never approach them and feel afraid to do so. Then I find a small pond, the pond is a portal and the only thing that looks inviting in this bare world, the only thing with inviting colors so I jump in and wake up.


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Re: Any lucid dreamers out there? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23451435 - 07/17/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Sleep paralysis is not a necessary component to lucid dreaming. It is the beginning state of an Out of Body Experience, which is a different thing than a lucid dream.


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Re: Any lucid dreamers out there? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #23451668 - 07/18/16 12:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Shit dude, sleep paralysis sounds terrifying. But I've also read you can easily turn that experience into a lucid dream or Astral projection. I don't know mych about AP. hiw exactly do you do that and what is it like?




Yea, it got so bad that I was staying awake for days on end trying to avoid sleep at any cost. But you're right, you CAN turn SP into LD/AP, and when the doctors (of which I saw MANY) could offer me no help, it was the lucid dreaming communities that helped me realize the potential of this dilemma. I owe them much.

As for the astral projection. Like I said, there are MANY techniques, you have to find one that works for you. Many border on self hypnosis (which has a low success rate for me), the following works almost every time for me. With that said, it may not be practical for every occasion, you'll see why...

Set your alarm for a time when you are in your deepest sleep (ideally that should be around 3-4am). Get to bed, don't eat a big meal, don't drink lots, don't smoke lots, i.e. don't take anything that your body will have to metabolize and therefore use energy. You want to be sleeping deeply when your alarm goes off. When you wake up from the alarm, do something mentally stimulating for about 15mins, something that makes you think. I get online the night before and jot down a few complex integration problems because it's something I have a tough time with, but I've heard crossword puzzles and Sudoku work well. Do your task, and go back to sleep. At this point it helps to try to keep your mind active so long as you are still sleepy, you don't want to fully wake up. If it's going to happen you'll know it.

I always feel it coming on, typical hypnogogia, usually a somewhat uncomfortable buzzing or humming feeling all throughout my body, but the buzzing can be downright orgasmic too, depends on the night. Next thing I know, I'm being sucked out of my body into the right corner of my ceiling (for some damned reason...). At this point it is something of an effort to actually stay in the room, when I let go (at first I was TERRIFIED to do so), I end up getting sucked out of the house (usually through a window but not always) and rocketing upwards. Fast. DMT flash fast. Watching as the ground dissapears and eventually the sky gets darker and darker blue, finally fading to black. If I can stop myself from going to far up, I can wander around the planet quite readily. Most of the time this is not the case and I just keep getting sucked up until the blackness fades into impossible to describe experiences. Somewhat DMT like I suppose. Merging with all, knowing all. That kind of thing.

I'm not one to believe some of the more outlandish theories you'll find on the net regarding this topic, but I've had some TRULY bizarre experiences that I can't rightly explain. I've seen friends pulling up to my house in cars they don't usually drive while outside my body only to have them wake me up a few minutes later and being able to describe the car. Things like that. I'm not ready to sign off on the "soul leaving the body" thing, but some really coincidental things have taken place while I'm in this state. It's worth pursuing.

Some techniques: http://themindunleashed.org/2013/06/10-effective-techniques-to-experiencing.html
Good tips: http://humansarefree.com/2013/12/11-steps-to-astral-travel.html Number 5 is a biggy, daytime naps almost always do it for me.

Lastly, by all means it is wise to be skeptical of putting any chemical into your body, be it natural or synthetic. There are quite a few of these chemicals that are naturally occurring and found in everyday foods. With that said, natural doesn't always equal safe, nature produces the most toxic substances known to man. Do your homework. If you can get there "on the natch" (as Terence would say), well, better yet.


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Re: Any lucid dreamers out there? [Re: Indigo-Child]
    #23451673 - 07/18/16 01:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

For anyone interested in sleep paralysis/OBEs/downright funky nocturnal journeys, here's a documentary on the subject:

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/212363/the_nightmare_2015_full_documentary/


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Re: Any lucid dreamers out there? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23451688 - 07/18/16 01:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Moonshoe said:
Sleep paralysis is the stage where you are primed for an OBE. Just will yourself to float up and out of your body. If you get sleep paralysis you are lucky- you are naturally primed for OBE.




Is this really true? Wow. That would definitely explain the feeling I get of being out of my body during certain episodes of sleep paralysis. I'm not sure if they're actual episodes anymore, or just strange nightmares. My room has always felt very heavy and dense to me. Thermal even. I get super hot even in the winter.

The other night I had an experience where I had "awoken" and heard a particularly unnerving song on the radio (I play internet radio to lull me to sleep sometimes), and to escape, I got out of bed, "felt" my way downstairs into the bathroom (I always feel blind in my episodes), and turned on the light. My reflection showed me with my hair covering my face. It was wet, and I tried to remove it, to breathe, but all for naught. Then came the hypnagogic jerk. I woke up as the song ended, very shaken and frightened, as is usual when this happens.

I will definitely be watching that documentary. Thanks for sharing. :smile:


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Re: Any lucid dreamers out there? [Re: Viol]
    #23451919 - 07/18/16 06:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I have had a few lucid dreams in the past. It hasnt happened in years for me. Probably because ive been smoking alot.

I used to have this weird spinning sensation when i was a kid. I would be asleep then i would wake up. Looking back now, i think half the time i was dreaming. What would happen is i would wake up and i couldnt move but the bed would feel like it was in space and it was spinning. I would spin upside down and side to side and it would feel like it would go on for hours. Even some nights i would start to spin when i was even trying to go to sleep Like when i was definatly awake. The spinning would feel like it would go on for hours every niht. I dreaded this feeling so much it made me feel nauseous. I wonder what caused this?

Apart from that i cant remember having much lucid shit... up until i started reading up on it. I tryed for months and months. I started working on visualizing things with my eyes closed. I worked and worked at it and eveuantly i was able to litlerary produce images in m head with my eyes closed. I could only do single images at a time mostly, faces, symbols etc.

then one night something happened. I went to bed as usual, lay down, closed my eyes and i just started to visualize things. I decided i would try remember my room and everything around me. So i visualised my self looking at my computer desk to my left, my tv at the end of my bed, looking out the window at the street. I then opened the door and started going through every room in the house.

I eventually worked my way out to our back yard. I would imagine myself walking everywhere, remembering everything about the world outside my bedroom and just visualizing it. Before i knew what was happening i must have slipped into a lucid dream because i stopped visualizing everything and i was doing things. I went all sorts of places and did all sorts of things but i cant really remember what as this was like 5 years ago and i never wrote any of it down.

Writing things down is really the key. You need to train your brain to visualize then summarize. In my experience anyway!

Ive had a handful of lucid dreams since then but they all seemed to be random at any time of the night. Il just all of a sudden be somewhere in a dream then think to myself "hey.... how did i get here... This doesnt make any sense...  HANG ABOuT!!! IM DREAMING!!!" then il go fly or whatever... Its so great!!!

Ive also had sleep paralyses one night. I think it started happening an hour or so after i went to sleep. I woke up and i couldn't move and i would feel like i was shaking or trembling. I tried my very hardest but it just wouldn't work. If i really worked at it i was able to move but then i would just doze back off very quickly

This happened a couple more times then it happened big time (hard to explain) it felt like there was this force pulling me down or something real weird. Then i was having all these weird hallucinations of music and other weird things. Then i floated up out of my bed, floated through walls and went down the hall. I seen someone and talked to them or something and everything happened so quickly.

This has never happened to me again.... I want it to happen again! Super intrigued!!! Espically that it only happened that one night. That one night it must have happened maybe 4 times. So crazy

Actually recalling all these experinces makes me want to have a break of weed for a bit and work on this sort of stuff. I love it when it happens its like a random trip in the middle of the night! Just my cup of tea lol


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Re: Any lucid dreamers out there? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #23451927 - 07/18/16 06:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I had the weirdest dream last night, man.

I was in the back of a car, I think arrested, in front of some house. Then Johnny Manziel (the now former embattled football player) walked out holding his girlfriend hostage, and the cops or SWAT team or whatever just started unloading on him. With like machine guns and AK's and shit. And he wouldn't die. He would just keep coming. He even taunted a cop who was shooting him by walking up to him and giving him a high five.

But then that cop handed him a grenade and ran. The grenade exploded his ass and then I woke up.

felt weird man


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Re: Any lucid dreamers out there? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23453288 - 07/18/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Moonshoe said:
Sleep paralysis is the stage where you are primed for an OBE. Just will yourself to float up and out of your body. If you get sleep paralysis you are lucky- you are naturally primed for OBE.






:werd:



Having gone through SP hundreds of times, I've lost count long ago...I'm kinda glad and feel lucky that I experience it as often as I do because it's great to use as a "spring board" into LD and astral projection/OOBE . And the entire experience of SP is some major food for thought for me, interesting stuff even when it's terrifying :strokebeard: .


The first couple years that I started to get SP from time to time, they were some of the most terrifying, dreadful, and "mind fucking" experiences of my life (I didn't read about SP until long after I started to go through it)...over the years, after use of various psychedelics and meditation, I started to learn and get a grasp on how to not give into and get caught up in the fear that's commonly associated with SP....and I was able to either wake my self up out of the paralysis, or slip into some of the most vivid lucid dreams I've had, or spring into some bizarre astral projection/out of body type experiences. I was having astral projection/OOBE before I had even heard/known about the word "astral projection".


I've experiences all sorts of weird shit during "sleep paralysis"...the entire gamut. From just feeling kinda stuck, to the classic SP experience of feelings of fear and seeing something in the room, to feeling like I'm being attacked by something, feeling almost possessed as if something was trying to crawl into and speak through me. Some that felt almost like an alien abduction, encounters with animals...all sorts of strange stuff goes down :lol: .







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