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Why the hell no visuals? Something I took??
    #23435471 - 07/12/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

So this morning, I had a freshly harvested cake that ended up being 3.3 dry. I lemon tekd all of it, and got no visuals at all!!! Strong body buzz and shit looked like I was about to start tripping, but I just didn't. Super depressing. Been waiting for those babies for, 45 days or so. First time grower. Anyway, I take kratom, and I was wondering if that was why no visuals? This morning I had flax seed and Chia seeds. I smoked tons of weed after I dosed and didn't see one tracer. Do you know if any of these things I ingested are to blame for this lame experience? Like the kratom with neurons blocking the shrooms or something? Thanks


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Russk]
    #23435535 - 07/12/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I forgot to mention the worse part, that for almost an hour I was steeped in anxiety and depression. I took a little meditation time, and feel much better now


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Russk]
    #23435542 - 07/12/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

AND I have No tolerance at all. It's been over two months since I last had shrooms, and it was the same experience then, too


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Russk]
    #23435565 - 07/12/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Perhaps they just weren't that potent a batch....
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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Russk]
    #23435576 - 07/12/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ssri? Or anything that'll block 5hta?


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #23435628 - 07/12/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

No meds. I'm thinking it has to be the kratom (which I'm about to quit). It affects serotonin activities, so maybe that's it. I looked it up, but didn't really find anyone


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Russk]
    #23435639 - 07/12/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Never heard of kratom having any direct activity at seritonin.  Some trips simply are not visual.  Trying to hard can bring you down.  Letting it come up takes zero effort.


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Russk]
    #23435642 - 07/12/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I just found some threads who say kratom is fine with shrooms so idk. I just can't see how 3.3 could be THAT weak


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Russk]
    #23435650 - 07/12/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Think of three beers of an unknown Abv.


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23435903 - 07/12/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't get it....


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Russk]
    #23435942 - 07/12/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

High expectations can lead to an underwhelming experience just got to take what you get...... sounds like you had a fair build up of thought.


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Russk]
    #23436081 - 07/12/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I often get next to no visuals, on both mushrooms and lsd, at various doses. It seems some folks just aren't as prone to hallucinations :tongue:


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Ezuma]
    #23436183 - 07/12/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've heard of people being like that, but I've had visuals on every trip. Is there a psilocybin potency test available? I'm going to have some one else try the next cakes harvest, and see how it goes for them. Plus next time I'm going to fast for several hours prior.


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Russk]
    #23436209 - 07/12/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ya gotta reach a peak and let go.  Can take a dose to do this.  Might not be all that potent.


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23436271 - 07/12/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Kratom shouldn't interfere and lock out visuals. I would try to innoc another cake and a 2nd/different variety at the same time.

Also I've never heard of a potency test for psilo.


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Exceed19_2000]
    #23436313 - 07/12/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Cool thanks. These were golden teachers, but there are several different varieties on the way. Next time I'm lemon teking 7 grams. If that don't get it, then something has gone wrong with me! Lol


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Russk]
    #23436393 - 07/12/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nah man. You did multispore from the sound of it. Some times some of the fruits are super weak with multispore. I wouldn't take 7g your next time you might end up taking 7g of some super potent fruits and have a bad time. I mean, unless you've done 7g a few times before and know that you can handle 7g of potent shrooms.


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: healing]
    #23437149 - 07/13/16 07:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nah never did more than 5. I'm going to chalk it up to weak fruits I guess. Yeah, MS. But I got into Agar this week and got some prints on the way, so hopefully next batch will be stronger.


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Russk]
    #23461392 - 07/21/16 01:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Or mother mushroom didn't appreciate you worrying about her visuals :wink:)))


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Titans]
    #23462149 - 07/21/16 09:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Probably didnt dry them properly, OP


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23462162 - 07/21/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ive eaten eights and had no visuals many times and just a body buzz with the giggles. They are probably a weaker batch of shrooms.


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23462205 - 07/21/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That's what I was thinking It prolly was just a weak batch. Really sorry to hear that you were waiting all that time and all you got was a body buzz. Don't give up on growing fungi tho try again and next batch will be better hopefully for your first time atleast you got something and they didn't get  totally trashed which happened to me my first time cultivating  fungi. Keep it up and you wont regret it :wink:


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Russk]
    #23462267 - 07/21/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The primary effects of mushrooms are psychological not visual.


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23462453 - 07/21/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've noticed visuals are hit and miss for me. Some trips will be very visual, while others completely psychological.

Do note, it has nothing to do with "strains" or the like. I get wide varieties of trips from the same batch of shrooms.


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: jds] * 1
    #23462454 - 07/21/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe stop looking for visuals and you will start finding what you're looking for. Visuals are less than 1% of what a trip really means, I would argue less even. Stop having expectations and your journeys will become that much more beautiful and insightful. Psychedelics aren't about seeing pretty colors and visuals, their main purpose is to awaken you to your inner world.


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23462466 - 07/21/16 11:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It could be tolerance. I've eaten up to a half O dry and didn't see a thing, got an extreme case of the gigglefits and a feeling of euphoria I couldn't possibly describe other than milky clouds running through my veins. My brother and buddy absolutely lost it halfing an 8th. I've been recording our trips over the last two years and I don't go as overboard anymore, just accept what they give and love it.


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23470947 - 07/23/16 11:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I learned about that a couple of days ago. Can not leave them damp even the tiniest bit or they loose potency. But then I took some more that I'm positive were cracker dry and still was just weak as hell. Ate like a half ounce. A qtr with lemon tek. I don't see what I could have possibly done wrong. Bad spores?


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: Russk]
    #23471055 - 07/24/16 12:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's not that your spores were bad, you just had bad luck in the specific spores that germinated, mated and colonized your substrate. Thats one of the reasons we make isolates, to avoid low potency fruits. You could do another multispore grow and hope it turns out better (your odds are pretty good), or learn some new techniques and make some isolates to ensure that it never happens again.


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Re: Why the hell no visuals? Something I took?? [Re: healing]
    #23471330 - 07/24/16 03:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Potency depends on genetics, so when your playing with MS the potency will for sure vary.

I've taken 4.5 dry shrooms, and no visuals just that body high and increase in senses.

Next time, increase your dosage... And visuals tend to always depend on your psyche sometimes i think, set and setting is also really important.


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