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Ann Shulgin
    #23435341 - 07/12/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

While the dear old Ann Shulgin is certainly a lovely lady why does she hold onto her IQ so?

She doesn't understand chemistry and refers Shulgin speaking in such terms as another language. If she had an IQ of 130+ I bet she'd pick up chemistry in a month or two. :eek:


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Re: Ann Shulgin [Re: dixienormous]
    #23435350 - 07/12/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Just because someone has a high IQ, does not mean they're smart with everything.

Many autistic people have high IQ's, and do well at some things, but fail miserably at other things.


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Re: Ann Shulgin [Re: Lucis]
    #23435362 - 07/12/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Fennario said:
Just because someone has a high IQ, does not mean they're smart with everything.

Many autistic people have high IQ's, and do well at some things, but fail miserably at other things.



I've met sixteen year olds who have had a complete understanding of general chemistry. Shulgins chemicals aren't that complex; it's easy enough to understand functional groups and why the molecule fits together and how to alter it.

I'm thinking she latches onto an insecurity she has. Lets forget about the Mensa party where she met Shulgin since that's very relevant.

A point would be as that she continually brings up the IQ in the men she has dated in PIHKAL. It's almost a necessity for her to date them it seems.

She's never spoke of any projects she has done besides being a therapist. Shulgin seemed to give her some direction in life and she grabbed on and never let go.


While it may not be her strength it's not that complex. She kinda held onto that as her only thing and became professor Shulgin #2. I don't understand why she never bothered to learn it if it was her direction in life. She would literally go to interviews with Shulgin and give her opinion.


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Re: Ann Shulgin [Re: dixienormous]
    #23435373 - 07/12/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Who the hell is Ann Shulgin?


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Re: Ann Shulgin [Re: shadyy]
    #23435375 - 07/12/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

i hate liz said:
Who the hell is Ann Shulgin?



:smugjerry:


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Re: Ann Shulgin [Re: shadyy]
    #23435431 - 07/12/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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i hate liz said:
Who the hell is Ann Shulgin?



I'm guessing Alexander Shulgins daughter


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Re: Ann Shulgin [Re: dixienormous]
    #23435432 - 07/12/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It takes a lifetime of experience to be knowledgeable.  People usually pick one field and focus on that.  Takes passion.


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Re: Ann Shulgin [Re: shadyy]
    #23435438 - 07/12/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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i hate liz said:
Who the hell is Ann Shulgin?




LoL, 19K+ posts on The Shroomery, and this is what you ask?



:peace: H.


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Re: Ann Shulgin [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23435442 - 07/12/16 04:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Seriously_trippin said:
Quote:

i hate liz said:
Who the hell is Ann Shulgin?



I'm guessing Alexander Shulgins daughter




Or granddaughter ... :shrug:


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Re: Ann Shulgin [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23435443 - 07/12/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Seriously_trippin said:
Quote:

i hate liz said:
Who the hell is Ann Shulgin?



I'm guessing Alexander Shulgins daughter




Oh...

Who the hell is Alexander Shulgin??


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Re: Ann Shulgin [Re: shadyy]
    #23435504 - 07/12/16 05:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The inventor of 2c-b and a million other compounds

Ann is his widow. As has been said, high IQ far from guarantees proficiency in org chem.


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Re: Ann Shulgin [Re: Hanz]
    #23435515 - 07/12/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Hanz said:
Quote:

i hate liz said:
Who the hell is Ann Shulgin?




LoL, 19K+ posts on The Shroomery, and this is what you ask?



Someone needs to read PIHKAL. Amazing book. I just bought TIHKAL, can't wait to read it.


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Re: Ann Shulgin [Re: shadyy]
    #23435518 - 07/12/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

SO what if she didn't want to learn all the chemistry, that was Shulgin's area of expertise.

Maybe she did learn, but just doesn't want to answer crazy chemistry questions all the time.

Shulgin focused on the chemisty of psychadelics, and she focused more on the spiritual side.

That's why i think they made such a good team. it's been said we're all genius at something.

What's up with Nikoli Tesla? if he is so smart but never learned to manage a bussiness.


Edited by ellomello (07/12/16 05:20 PM)


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Re: Ann Shulgin [Re: ellomello]
    #23435538 - 07/12/16 05:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I need to read P/TIHKAL myself. I've been a huge admirer of the Shulgins ever since I first found out who they were but oddly I still have yet to read any of Sasha's books.


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oh ive cried on drugs

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Tragic.  I told the cop not to do it but he didn't listen.


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Re: Ann Shulgin [Re: hex_enduction]
    #23435557 - 07/12/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

for a moment I thought this was going to be a rip thread..


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Re: Ann Shulgin [Re: orison]
    #23435578 - 07/12/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Alexander Shulgin is a bit of a hero of mine. He used to get a bunch of friends round to trip on one of his new compounds after he'd tested it on himself, and they'd spend the day tripping on his ranch and then all have dinner and discuss the qualitative effects whilst he took notes. What a fucking legend.

Plus, he loved to fuck on all kinds of psychedelics. Plus, you seen pics of his lab? What a sweet life that would be...


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Re: Ann Shulgin [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23435690 - 07/12/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Alexander Shulgin is a bit of a hero of mine. He used to get a bunch of friends round to trip on one of his new compounds after he'd tested it on himself, and they'd spend the day tripping on his ranch and then all have dinner and discuss the qualitative effects whilst he took notes. What a fucking legend.

Plus, he loved to fuck on all kinds of psychedelics. Plus, you seen pics of his lab? What a sweet life that would be...



Ann wrote her chapters of PIHKAL on MDMA.


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Re: Ann Shulgin [Re: dixienormous]
    #23435766 - 07/12/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Because even when you get to high levels of science (even somewhat related sciences), you specialize. There are plenty of high level scientists that know little about chemistry because they simply don't find it all that interesting. I'd say this is the case for me, I know squat about chemistry, it doesn't interest me.


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Re: Ann Shulgin [Re: dixienormous]
    #23435899 - 07/12/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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If she had an IQ of 130+ I bet she'd pick up chemistry in a month or two. :eek:




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