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Coincidences?
    #2343526 - 02/16/04 11:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I was looking for some other opinions on this subject.

Do you believe that coincidences are just that? Or that they have an underlying meaning?

I've thought about this alot and I've come to the conclusion that coincidences happen for a reason. Basically to push you towards where you should be. I don't want to confuse this with fate. I believe in free will but also that coincidences are like a sense of deja vu, either letting us know that we are on the track that we need to be in order to reach that next choice in life, or to force us to make a critical choice so that our path opens up more in that specific direction. Pretty much like those Adventure books that we used to read when we were younger where it asked you if you went thru the door, to go to page 25.. or if you decided to enter the cave, to go to page 96.

I also believe that the people we cross in our lives, there are reasons why we cross them. Perhaps they are to help us in the future as a link to something later in life, or to simply learn from them and better ourselves.


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Re: Coincidences? [Re: sykobish]
    #2343585 - 02/16/04 11:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I also believe that the people we cross in our lives, there are reasons why we cross them.
Like the guy who got brutally beaten last night?

Perhaps they are to help us...
The guy "needed" a broken jaw to teach him some obscure lesson?


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Re: Coincidences? [Re: Swami]
    #2343599 - 02/16/04 11:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You still don't understand karma...    :shake:


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Re: Coincidences? [Re: sykobish]
    #2343628 - 02/17/04 12:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

sykobish said:
Do you believe that coincidences are just that? Or that they have an underlying meaning?

I've thought about this alot and I've come to the conclusion that coincidences happen for a reason. Basically to push you towards where you should be. I don't want to confuse this with fate. I believe in free will but also that coincidences are like a sense of deja vu, either letting us know that we are on the track that we need to be in order to reach that next choice in life, or to force us to make a critical choice so that our path opens up more in that specific direction. Pretty much like those Adventure books that we used to read when we were younger where it asked you if you went thru the door, to go to page 25.. or if you decided to enter the cave, to go to page 96.

I also believe that the people we cross in our lives, there are reasons why we cross them. Perhaps they are to help us in the future as a link to something later in life, or to simply learn from them and better ourselves.




I believe in those things. I call the coincidences "signs". And yes, there are many reasons for why people are put in our path.

The signs are to show me the direction I should take. People are here to either help me or for me to learn from them.

Sometimes, when I am on an airplane, and I get seated next to someone, I wonder whether I'm sitting there to learn from them or if they are there to learn from me. Sometimes, it's just chit chat. Other times, we learn from each other.

I believe in God. I don't think God is going to stick his hand down from the heavens (wherever they might be) and give us what we need. And besides, it doesn't work that way anyways.

I think God teaches and helps us through people.

But if you want to look at it in another way, if you don't believe in God, I think somehow quantum physics plays into it. We are all where we are supposed to be at any given space in time, interconnecting with each other.


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Re: Coincidences? [Re: Frog]
    #2343630 - 02/17/04 12:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You still don't understand

See my topic on poor debating technique.


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Re: Coincidences? [Re: Swami]
    #2343644 - 02/17/04 12:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Um, like, do I have to go find it myself???    :oogle:

Where is it, in the dark recesses of the shroomery archives?  :eyemouth:


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Re: Coincidences? [Re: Frog]
    #2343658 - 02/17/04 12:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Here's a flashlight. Now go down the creeking stairs into the cobwebbed cellar where the bogeyman lives...


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Re: Coincidences? [Re: Frog]
    #2343670 - 02/17/04 12:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I agree. I don't believe in God as you would think. I do believe in a force. I believe in Energy. I believe in the power of thought and suggestion and positive and negative energy.

The way I see it, if it makes you happy, go with it. All the power to you. Cuz my thoughts on that, is that what it boils down to.. we believe the same thing. We just all have different names for it.

Look at Greek and Roman gods.. Everything relates.. it's all been intertwined.


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Re: Coincidences? [Re: sykobish]
    #2343684 - 02/17/04 12:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I believe in the power of thought ...

See thread on Cancer and Optimism...


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Re: Coincidences? [Re: Swami]
    #2343685 - 02/17/04 12:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

No, thanks.  I always hate when they do that in the movies, too.  Doesn't the about-to-be-killed person know, by now, that whenever it's dark, and you need a flashlight, and you have to go down some dark creaky stairs, and there's freaky music, that there's probably a bogeyman down there???

They never learn, either.  :lol:


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Re: Coincidences? [Re: Swami]
    #2343698 - 02/17/04 12:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
I also believe that the people we cross in our lives, there are reasons why we cross them.
Like the guy who got brutally beaten last night?

Perhaps they are to help us...
The guy "needed" a broken jaw to teach him some obscure lesson?




As Frog said, I think karma could have played a very big role in that. Or perhaps that person just made a not so well thought out decision. I won't say that it was a right or wrong one.. It's always action, and consequence.


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Re: Coincidences? [Re: Swami]
    #2343708 - 02/17/04 12:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I already have a very good idea as to what it would say. :smile::thumbup:  And I agree.  Stress kills.


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Re: Coincidences? [Re: sykobish] * 1
    #2343761 - 02/17/04 12:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

As Frog said, I think karma could have played a very big role in that.
No insult, but please explain how adopting an ancient Hindu superstition with no supporting evidence comes about from "thinking"?

Were all the 911 victims just reaping karma, or is the pedantic explanation more likely? Whenever I hurt someone I am doing them a favor by "balancing" their karma?


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Re: Coincidences? [Re: Swami]
    #2343786 - 02/17/04 12:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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As Frog said, I think karma could have played a very big role in that.
No insult, but please explain how adopting an ancient Hindu superstition with no supporting evidence comes about from "thinking"?

Were all the 911 victims just reaping karma, or is the pedantic explanation more likely? Whenever I hurt someone I am doing them a favor by "balancing" their karma?




I have lost my Edgar Cayce book, so I'm going to give an explanation for why I see it the way I see it, based on my memory.

Sometimes, if we didn't learn a lesson in a past life, we have to come back and live life in a certain way so as to learn the lesson we didn't learn.

As an example, if someone abused women in a past life, he may have to come back as a woman, and endure rape, to get an understanding of why you shouldn't abuse women.

I don't see karma as a superstition. But if you think it's a superstition, that's fine. I guess that means it isn't necessary to find my Edgar Cayce book.


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    #2343809 - 02/17/04 12:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

su?per?sti?tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (spr-stshn)
n.
An irrational belief that an object, action, or circumstance not logically related to a course of events influences its outcome.

A belief, practice, or rite irrationally maintained by ignorance of the laws of nature or by faith in magic or chance.
A fearful or abject state of mind resulting from such ignorance or irrationality.


There is NO logical relationship else we would be able to study it.


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Re: Coincidences? [Re: Swami]
    #2343818 - 02/17/04 12:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

First off, everything happens for a reason. I'm not saying those individuals deserved to die. I don't know if I want to touch too much on the subject of 911 because I don't want to word something the wrong way and have people misinterpret it. So I think it would be wise to stay away from that.

Choices are made and consequences, positive or negative, follow.


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Re: Coincidences? [Re: Swami]
    #2343820 - 02/17/04 12:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

-shrugs-

Okay.


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Re: Coincidences? [Re: Swami]
    #2343829 - 02/17/04 12:49 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Not all things in life can be explained or studied.


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Re: Coincidences? [Re: sykobish] * 1
    #2343832 - 02/17/04 12:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

First off, everything happens for a reason.

And how do you support that? Everything has a cause, but can you substantiate any reason behind a happenstance?


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Re: Coincidences? [Re: Swami]
    #2343886 - 02/17/04 01:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Honestly. No, I can't give much support on that. I believe it to be true because that's what I feel. I can't give a scientific explaination as to why things happen the way they do. Why do babies die? Why does love fade? I have no idea, other than a feeling inside me that believes that these things happen in order to learn and grow. Life isn't always about happiness. There needs to be balance between positivity and negativity otherwise, if we were constantly happy, there would be no way for us to know. There would be no comparison.

When I think of 'Everything happens for a reason' I think of good and bad things occurring in our lives that not only build our character and make us who we are, but it always opens doors into the future.

For example, you are happily in love with someone for 10 years of your life. Then it's over. It hurts, it sucks.. You wonder why. But you learn from that experience. It adds to who you are. Then say 5 years down the road, you meet someone else who you end up with till your dying days.

My thoughts are scattered tonight. So I apologize if my ramblings are hard to follow.


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