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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: koods]
#23434883 - 07/12/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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clock_of_omens said: That's totally irrelevant to the point I was making. Racial bias in policing =\= racist conspiracy to wipe out blacks contrary to what BLM would have us believe. The point in quoting black on black murder stats is to show that if any race is out to exterminate blacks, it is blacks themselves.
Yeah it's so fucking stupid. Do these white cop vs black dude shootings even even account for 1 damn percent of murders in the black community? Half a percent? Yet we got an entire nationwide movement for it while the other other 90% or whatever the fuck it is black on black murders gets ignored

Police involved homicides account for about 8% of all homicides in the US. It is not insignificant.
Actual police shootings that were deemed unjustified homicides in the court of law? Or just police killings in general?
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Niffla] 3
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Koods isn't the kind to differentiate the two. He thinks all criminals should be given lollipops by the cops.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Shroomslip]
#23434905 - 07/12/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oh yeah that's right. Forgot who I was talking to for a second
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#23434931 - 07/12/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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clock_of_omens said: That's totally irrelevant to the point I was making. Racial bias in policing =\= racist conspiracy to wipe out blacks contrary to what BLM would have us believe. The point in quoting black on black murder stats is to show that if any race is out to exterminate blacks, it is blacks themselves.
Yeah it's so fucking stupid. Do these white cop vs black dude shootings even even account for 1 damn percent of murders in the black community? Half a percent? Yet we got an entire nationwide movement for it while the other other 90% or whatever the fuck it is black on black murders gets ignored

Police involved homicides account for about 8% of all homicides in the US. It is not insignificant.
Homocide is an "unlawful" shooting
That is the definition of murder (It doesn't have to be a shooting, obv)
HOMICIDE [hom-uh-sahyd, hoh-muh-] noun 1. the killing of one human being by another.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: koods]
#23434941 - 07/12/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Lol are you kidding? I'm pretty sure qman thinks black people are out to kill white people.
http://www.amren.com/news/2015/07/new-doj-statistics-on-race-and-violent-crime/
"A black is 27 times more likely to attack a white...than the other way around"
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: koods]
#23434947 - 07/12/16 01:26 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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HOMICIDE [hom-uh-sahyd, hoh-muh-] noun 1. the killing of one human being by another.
I'm going to go ahead and speculate that the vast majority of that 8% were violent criminals that left them no choice.
In the meanwhile my guess is you'd speculate the complete opposite and that the vast majority of that 8 percent were upstanding citizens that were targeted by rogue cops out to quench their uncontrollable thirst for blood.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: koods] 1
#23434954 - 07/12/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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In 2010, there were approximate 13,500 homicides in the US. Of that 278 non law enforcement related were considered justifiable.
That's 2%.
Why is it that 98% of police killings are considered justifiable, while only 2% of civilians killings are considered justifiable. It seems like we are giving the police far too much benefit of the doubt.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: koods]
#23434957 - 07/12/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Lol are you kidding? I'm pretty sure qman thinks black people are out to kill white people.
So you're "pretty sure" qman thinks black people are out to kill white people. Very interesting. Maybe when there is a BLM style group of white people claiming that there is a racist conspiracy to kill them off, you'll have a point. Until then you're just spouting nonsense.
Qman himslef posted an article describing the racial bias in policing, so even he has acknowledged there is a problem.
There's also gender, age, economic, appearance, and location bias in policing.
"so even he has acknowledged there is a problem"
Is using statistical commonsense that's ingrained into our DNA a problem? I don't think so, this is what humans do to make the most rational decisions they can in a timely manner.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Niffla]
#23434960 - 07/12/16 01:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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HOMICIDE [hom-uh-sahyd, hoh-muh-] noun 1. the killing of one human being by another.
I'm going to go ahead and speculate that the vast majority of that 8% were violent criminals that left them no choice.
In the meanwhile my guess is you'd speculate the complete opposite and that the vast majority of that 8 percent were upstanding citizens that were targeted by rogue cops out to quench their uncontrollable thirst for blood.
So, if you aren't an upstanding citizen, you are fair game? Remember this is a website based around illegal activity,
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: koods]
#23434962 - 07/12/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Police involved homicides account for about 8% of all homicides in the US. It is not insignificant.
He never said the word insignificant. What he said is that it is ridiculous that there is an entire movement claiming racist conspiracy while at the same time ignoring the thing that actually causes the vast majority of black deaths, which is true.
Also, where does that number come from? What does "police involved homicide" mean? A cop being killed is a police involved homicide.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: koods]
#23434972 - 07/12/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Police involved homicides account for about 8% of all homicides in the US. It is not insignificant.
Why lie? Did you think no-one would check?
In 2013 there were 12,253 murders in the US. 8% of that would be 980.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
There were (by this site) 338 killed by police. That's 2.75%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States,_2013
By this site... 461. That's 3.76%
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/11/13/3591466/heres-what-we-know-about-who-police-killed-in-2013/
in 2014 there were 14,249 murders. 8% of that would be 1140.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/murder
In 2014 there 626 killed by police. That's 4.39%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States,_2013
Lies are not your friend koods. Well... maybe they are your friend but most others prefer the truth.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: qman] 1
#23435060 - 07/12/16 02:10 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Lol are you kidding? I'm pretty sure qman thinks black people are out to kill white people.
http://www.amren.com/news/2015/07/new-doj-statistics-on-race-and-violent-crime/
"A black is 27 times more likely to attack a white...than the other way around"
God you suck at math.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: koods] 1
#23435071 - 07/12/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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It would be better to be one who sucks at math than to be one who sucks at the truth... such as yourself.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#23435080 - 07/12/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Actually though as the stat he posted wasn't his but was copied from the site he linked to...
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Using figures for the 2013 racial mix of the population–62.2 percent white, 17.1 percent Hispanic, 13.2 percent black–we can calculate the average likelihood of a person of each race attacking the other. A black is 27 times more likely to attack a white and 8 times more likely to attack a Hispanic than the other way around. A Hispanic is eight times more likely to attack a white than vice versa.
...the suckage is yours for not having read it.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: koods]
#23435083 - 07/12/16 02:18 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://www.amren.com/news/2015/07/new-doj-statistics-on-race-and-violent-crime/
"violent interracial crime involving blacks and Hispanics occurs in most exactly the same proportional as black/white crime: Blacks are the attackers 82.5 percent of the time"
At least blacks don't racially discriminate in attacking whites and Hispanics.
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: koods] 1
#23435088 - 07/12/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Lol are you kidding? I'm pretty sure qman thinks black people are out to kill white people.
http://www.amren.com/news/2015/07/new-doj-statistics-on-race-and-violent-crime/
"A black is 27 times more likely to attack a white...than the other way around"
God you suck at math.
Don't like the statistics, blame math.
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#23435250 - 07/12/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lol
A little off topic but still
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Eminence]
#23435258 - 07/12/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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So the 8% of killings in US was BS, and then we change the talking point, is that correct?
Just want to make sure we are all on the Same page
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#23435357 - 07/12/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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You guys know what cops seem to kill more men than women i think the system is sexist now im gonna start a movement all men matter
Whos with me?
I wonder if i can get funding too $$$
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Plain]
#23435430 - 07/12/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ben Shapiro owning some dumbass with a similar point at 8:42:
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