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enco
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Misting and psilocybin question
#23433953 - 07/12/16 03:01 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have a two part question. Why should one not mist directly onto the substrate, and is psilocybin really more concentrated in the caps or is this just a common misconception, and it's distributed evenly throughout the mushroom?
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Re: Misting and psilocybin question [Re: enco]
#23433962 - 07/12/16 03:11 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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One should mist directly onto the substrate... how else will it absorb the water?
There is like 5% more psilocybin/psilocin in the caps, and the caps make up like 10-20% of the mushroom so... it's negligible.
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Re: Misting and psilocybin question [Re: Inocuole]
#23433974 - 07/12/16 03:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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 If the caps are stronger its negligible.
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enco
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Re: Misting and psilocybin question [Re: enco]
#23433982 - 07/12/16 03:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I read the instructions that come with the grow box kit and a book on mushroom cultivation, they both stated that one should not mist directly onto the substrate....??
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Re: Misting and psilocybin question [Re: enco]
#23433985 - 07/12/16 03:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Many advise misting upwards so that the mist settles gently on the substrate. Misting directly is avoided so that water does not puddle on the cropping surface, or disrupt the sensitive mycelial mat where pins may be forming. The idea is to create a cloud of mist above the cropping surface and let it settle gently. I use a custom made misting wand that has a row of fine misting nozzles and is attached to a garden hose. The hose is a little cumbersome, but the efficiency of using several nozzles at one time is worth it. You can also use a garden sprayer that you pump up to pressurize. Regular spray bottle will wear out your hand/wrist pretty quickly if you have a lot of trays to mist, but if you have a small grow then the spray bottle should work well provided it has a good mist nozzle.
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bodhisatta 
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Grow kits have deliberately bad information in them so you get burned twice
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Inocuole
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Re: Misting and psilocybin question [Re: enco]
#23433991 - 07/12/16 03:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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enco said: I read the instructions that come with the grow box kit and a book on mushroom cultivation, they both stated that one should not mist directly onto the substrate....??
Oh man guess I better stop misting my substrates directly...

If they look like that while doing something completely wrong then surely I can get them like 10x better if water never touches them, right?
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Re: Misting and psilocybin question [Re: Inocuole]
#23433996 - 07/12/16 03:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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They like misting, like rain
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Re: Misting and psilocybin question [Re: bodhisatta]
#23434481 - 07/12/16 09:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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grow kits don't want you to mist because their Fae is so awful misting doesn't evaporate and it ruins crops. Only in a proper chamber, or when grown by someone who knows how to keep them happy (like those above me) the Fae is good enough to mist directly all you want.
TL;dr make a proper chamber to fruit your kit in. Look up SGFC.
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Re: Misting and psilocybin question [Re: Mad Season]
#23434605 - 07/12/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad Season said:
grow kits don't want you to mist because their Fae is so awful misting doesn't evaporate and it ruins crops. Only in a proper chamber, or when grown by someone who knows how to keep them happy (like those above me) the Fae is good enough to mist directly all you want.
TL;dr make a proper chamber to fruit your kit in. Look up SGFC.

I went with a suffucation box for my first grow. I got something but not great. Haven't upped my game fully yet as I'm still sorting space requirements but have since tried two more of the pre-made myc kits.
The change in the game is I move everything into a small tray and the tray goes into a SGFC. Big improvement, moving the substrate bag into a tray forces the bag up against the sides of the brick and stops side pinning. The other upside of being in the FC is, with the bag the myc came in properly trimmed down, the FAE across the top of the tray is much improved and the centre fruits much better than in the box. Here is a salvaged kit in progress.

And, you will be misting your sub. In these conditions it will go through water, like it's water.
-------------------- ***My SGFC*** ***ID Mushrooms Here*** Pondering the question, "Are we all here, because we're not all there?"
"Because something is happening here, but you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones." Ballad of a Thin Man by Mrs. Zimmerman's little boy, Bobby.
Edited by KenInVic (07/12/16 10:55 AM)
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