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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: endogenous] * 5
    #23431747 - 07/11/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

They also account for 40% of the murders in the US. They forgot that part.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: endogenous]
    #23431771 - 07/11/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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From the Washington Post:

"Race remains the most volatile flash point in any accounting of police shootings. Although black men make up only 6 percent of the U.S. population, they account for 40 percent of the unarmed men shot to death by police this year," -- http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/wp/2015/12/26/2015/12/26/a-year-of-reckoning-police-fatally-shoot-nearly-1000/




And your point is?

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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Shroomism]
    #23431773 - 07/11/16 11:03 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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They also account for 40% of the murders in the US. They forgot that part.




yes, which potentially takes some of the blame away from cops specifically, but still that statistic means there are problems to be addressed where blacks (or just the poor) are concerned
ghetto culture is shit, but it wasn't formed in a vacuum :shrug:

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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Ezuma] * 2
    #23431811 - 07/11/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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They also account for 40% of the murders in the US. They forgot that part.




yes, which potentially takes some of the blame away from cops specifically, but still that statistic means there are problems to be addressed where blacks (or just the poor) are concerned
ghetto culture is shit, but it wasn't formed in a vacuum :shrug:




"means there are problems to be addressed where blacks are concerned, ghetto culture is shit"

Which ultimately shows BLM's isn't looking at the source of the problem.

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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: qman]
    #23431819 - 07/11/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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They also account for 40% of the murders in the US. They forgot that part.




yes, which potentially takes some of the blame away from cops specifically, but still that statistic means there are problems to be addressed where blacks (or just the poor) are concerned
ghetto culture is shit, but it wasn't formed in a vacuum :shrug:




"means there are problems to be addressed where blacks are concerned, ghetto culture is shit"

Which ultimately shows BLM's isn't looking at the source of the problem.




mostly I agree, I think largely -in the US- black lives matter has done more harm than good by alienating many non-racist people

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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Ezuma] * 4
    #23431875 - 07/11/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

even though i think this issue can be described in terms of it being a black issue, i don't think we will have any meaningful reforms until we change the policies that led us to this point.

and i sympathize with BLM in that i'm in favor of reforming our legal system and economy. but elements of BLM's ideas are divisive, most notably their definition of racism as "privilege + prejudice", which seems to demonize whites while turning a blind eye towards racist behavior from people of color.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: 404] * 3
    #23431899 - 07/11/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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If these statistics are true:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-08/breakdown-us-citizens-killed-cops-2016



The original source is The Washington Post... Can anyone speak for the validity of these statistics?




How does that make them racist?

You do realize that black people are only 13% of the population. Unarmed black people were killed at 5x the rate of unarmed whites in 2015

http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed/

Why is saying black lives matter even a racist statement? Thinking it does just demonstrates your lack of logical reasoning. Nothing about the statement implies that other lives don't matter.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: koods] * 2
    #23431914 - 07/11/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

46 people of unknown race...

unknown race...

:patlal:


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Plain]
    #23431943 - 07/11/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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haha cops kill people with toy weapons wtf??



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Thats what the people who were shot by police had :facepalm:

When does a cop ever stab someone?




I think you should read what sheekle wrote again and facepalm yourself


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: koods]
    #23431963 - 07/11/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: koods]
    #23432021 - 07/11/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Sheekle said:
haha cops kill people with toy weapons wtf??



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Thats what the people who were shot by police had :facepalm:

When does a cop ever stab someone?




I think you should read what sheekle wrote again and facepalm yourself




Yeah ill admit i gotta do

:facepalm: @ myself

But i dont think its hard to see how i misunderstood.

Also some people do commit crimes with toy guns hoping their victim wont question if the gun is real.

Taking off the orange tip is not hard to.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Plain] * 1
    #23432060 - 07/11/16 01:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Old friend of mine was sentenced to 10 years for armed robbery even though he used a toy gun that looked real, he got away with the robbery or at least the people believed he had a gun and let him take their shit, but the law didn't give a shit even after they found out it was fake. I'd say it's fairly uncommon that people would do this but it definitely happens and it can be damn near impossible to tell the difference depending on the circumstance.

btw I could of made that mistake too :lol:

Edited by SirShroomsAlott (07/11/16 01:16 PM)

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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23432201 - 07/11/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, my brother had some very realistic airsoft gear about a decade back.

I'd say its fair to be served for a weapon in that scenario, still tempting lethal violence, someone else could pull a gun and there could be collateral. Playing with fire.

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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: keyser_soze] * 2
    #23432230 - 07/11/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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BLM is funded.

The puppet masters created this smaller "rebellion" to quell the larger one --the american revolution #2.

By creating distrust between races in america again, they have chipped away and are continuing to chip away at the citizens ability to revolt as a whole against the government as a whole.

If you make teammates extremely pissed off at each other, what are the odds they will play in the same game?





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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Hobozen]
    #23432276 - 07/11/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

i support black on black violence.

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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: koods] * 1
    #23432287 - 07/11/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Because they (blm) are literally making it about race when the real focus should be on reforming how police handle situations? granted, blacks make up less of the population while still making almost half of how many whites were killed... doesn't change that this should still be about cops not executing people in the fucking street or where ever.

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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: DieCommie] * 5
    #23432452 - 07/11/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I read in an article on the BBC that 30% of police fatalities are black people.  This is in line with your stats.  It makes sense.  Police will take advantage of and hurt anybody they see fit.  BlackLivesMatter is racist, they explicitly hate on anybody claiming AllLivesMatter even though the majority of police shootings are not against black people.  The explicitly reject protesting black on black violence.  What do they want?  More white and hispanic people shot so that its representative?  The goal should be to reduce all shootings, across the board.  This is not done by projecting racism.  Its done by ending the drug war, rejecting tough on crime culture, mandatory body cams, independent prosecutors office to prosecute police alone, etc.  By casting police oppression as racism every time the media, BLM and even the President fan the flames of racial hatred and miss an opportunity to address the real problem.  The real group that has to worry is the handicapped, the poor and the mentally ill and otherwise vulnerable.  I suspect those traits correlate more with police shootings than race.




Fucking Nailed it.
The War on Drugs is probably 80% of the problem alone.
And every time something like this happens and the media just spins it out to be about racial issues.. it detracts from the REAL issue at hand and instead has people fighting among themselves. That's probably EXACTLY what they want... hard for the people to be united when they are bickering about race and divided by stupid shit.

I think that's what MOST people are thinking when they say ALL LIVES MATTER.

Yeah, cops kill lots of black people... that's not the fucking point.

Cops kill lots of people unjustified. It's not just a fucking black issue. So fuck off with that nonsense of "Black Lives Matter"... we understand... ALL LIVES MATTER and you narrowing it down to "Blacks" just turns it into a racial debate when it's FAR BEYOND THAT. It's a police brutality problem in general, turning it into a race issue just blurs the lines and misses the point of the real problem.

What the fuck is racial sensitivity training for cops going to do? That wont bring back my dead white friend who got shot in the back of the head by a cop when he was 17. It's not just a black issue.. not even close.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #23432498 - 07/11/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

This has been my sentiment more or less.

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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: 404]
    #23432798 - 07/11/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/?tid=magnet

That link has lots of names (Maybe all names of people killed by police).


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: 404]
    #23432809 - 07/11/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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i tried using that Statista site with keywords "people killed by police" and it returned no results... yet this image comes from Statista. I don't know what's going on here.






It's simple
The people that made the website didn't correlate tags with the image, thus it won't appear in searches.


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