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Cakes to bulk opinions (I searched)
    #23431929 - 07/11/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hey everyone. My threads never seem to really get responses but i could use some help on this.

I've done this a time or two, and it worked pretty well.

In the past, I've spawned say 1 half pint to equal parts manure/Verm/Coir, pasteurized, and it worked pretty good. I've really gotten my cakes down good. I haven't touched any of the jars since I set them to colonize, and they've never looked better. All great from what I can see. Next week they should all be colonized.

I'm wondering if anyone has personally made a monotub with a large quantity of cakes. 12 cakes in each tub. I'm wondering what spawn ratios you used, and the success you had.

Cakes are a pain to fruit as cakes, but I enjoy the simplicity of cakes and the strong contam resistance. I know not all love this method,but I personally don't mind it.

I searched, "BRF to bulk" and "cakes to bulk"

Saw a few small threads, but am very curious to see some monotub pictures with cakes as the spawn.


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Re: Cakes to bulk opinions (I searched) [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23432106 - 07/11/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've never spawned cakes to a mono specifically but I have spawned them to trays that I placed in a large SGFC. 

It worked out wonderfully.  Obviously the colonized BRF doesn't mix as evenly as loose grains, however, since the cakes were all a few days past 100% colonization I birthed them, removed the top verm layer, and then smashed them to smithereens in a bowl.

Once there weren't too many chunks left I spawned the ground up cakes to coir and verm.  I did a 1:2 ratio if I remember correctly.

I don't think there is any problem with spawning cakes to bulk but someone can correct me if I'm wrong.  I believe people choose to go with grains for bulk because G2G is a simple and very fast way to colonize lots of spawn.  Where as cakes are always 'nocced one by one and cake take much long than grain. 

Also.  As far as results go, the spawn is not what creates the results.  That would be genetics.  So just because someone spawns cakes to bulk and gets poor yields doesn't mean you will.. or that if they tried it a second time the results would be the same. Keep that in mind.

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Re: Cakes to bulk opinions (I searched) [Re: BLINKfan420]
    #23432153 - 07/11/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've spawned cakes plenty of times. ..

I'm stuck at a 1:1 ratio cakes or grain but others say 1:2 is OK, 1:3 is fine and 1:4 is pushing it....

It depends if it's a fast growing isolate too...in that case it would take less to still produce a maximum yeild....not ms though.


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Re: Cakes to bulk opinions (I searched) [Re: HybridprX]
    #23432169 - 07/11/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe I should just do large trays in a SGFC. I don't know. I don't think I'm the best at dialing in my tubs.


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Re: Cakes to bulk opinions (I searched) [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23432501 - 07/11/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Almost my exact situation.  I haven't tried mono tubs yet, and at that po8nt I didn't feel like fiddling with polyfil and new techniques so I went with what I already knew. I do this all in baby steps and that's how I like it. I'm on the Agar mission now.  Then finally I'll move to mono tubs.

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Re: Cakes to bulk opinions (I searched) [Re: BLINKfan420]
    #23432513 - 07/11/16 04:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

cakes to sub is alright but why not grains to sub if you can boil a pot of water you can grow bulk :takingnotes:


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Re: Cakes to bulk opinions (I searched) [Re: tripdawg420]
    #23443200 - 07/15/16 08:11 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I just did some math. 12 cakes would be six pints which is 3 quarts. Is that enough for a good tub? I'm also wondering if I should put all my eggs in one basket.

I have albino A+ and KSSS. I know from previous experience KSSS does much better in a monotub. I just hate the thought of failing ya know. And I know this is "easy" stuff to most, but for the beginner it takes quite a few times to get this down. It's fun though.


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Re: Cakes to bulk opinions (I searched) [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23443207 - 07/15/16 08:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

fuck it go for it and keep us up dated:crazy2:


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Re: Cakes to bulk opinions (I searched) [Re: tripdawg420]
    #23443233 - 07/15/16 08:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've never done a decent sized tub. Always small. This will be the biggest. Does this sound right. 3 quarts of BRF (12 cakes) to 3.5 quarts each of manure/coir. I think I only have a cup or two of Verm left.

So 9 quarts total, plus a casing layer. What size tub am I looking at for this can anyone chime in?


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Re: Cakes to bulk opinions (I searched) [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23443254 - 07/15/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You could get by mixing what you said in a full size mono.


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Re: Cakes to bulk opinions (I searched) [Re: NDStepp84]
    #23446523 - 07/16/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm doing 6cakes in one tub. I did 1 pint of Verm, (all I had), 3 pints coir, 3 pints manure.

It's currently pasturizing in the oven at 170 for 2 and a half hours.

Add this to 6 crumbled half pint cakes, let colonize, case, fruit.

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Re: Cakes to bulk opinions (I searched) [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23446744 - 07/16/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If so with that much I would do a tray in a sgfc, shoebox dub tub or a small mono tub but sounds like it will work. Thin subs fruit great and have good BE, but may dry out faster why I recommend a small tub/tray for that much.


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Re: Cakes to bulk opinions (I searched) [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23446753 - 07/16/16 12:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I tried cakes to bulk, lost everything to contamination, grains work much better, not saying its impossible plenty people have done it, but grains are much better, let us know how it goes tho!


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Re: Cakes to bulk opinions (I searched) [Re: NDStepp84]
    #23446769 - 07/16/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

For the containers I have, the sub appears to be a solid 3-4 inches deep without a casing layer

And yeah I know it's somewhat risky, I'm doing 6 jars this way, 6 as cakes. Have some KSSS that will be done in a week, 12 jars of it... Getting tired of making these jars just really can't get a pressure cooker right now.

The sub mix is cooling. I'll pick out the 6 best looking albino a+ jars tonight and mix then put in tub and leave lid on until fully colonized.


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Re: Cakes to bulk opinions (I searched) [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23446779 - 07/16/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That sounds good. If your cakes are healthy and the poo was properly pasteurized which it sounds like it was,  it should work out good for you.


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Re: Cakes to bulk opinions (I searched) [Re: NDStepp84]
    #23449052 - 07/17/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Damn guys. Bad news. 4 of 8 containers I opened had this :/


I dug a hole and buried 3 with manure and coir yesterday. Saved one to show a pic.
One had a green mold in the core. I honestly have no idea how this happened. I was literally in a tiny closet, drenched with Lysol and rubbing alcohol and food grade sanitizer. I also was inside of a hazmat suit, with a very nice respirator on. Flame sanitized for every jar. NEVER had contam issues in the past doing this.

My only thought is I didn't steam sterilize long enough. I swear I had to turn them off half way through and come back later and gave them another hour. Maybe never got to the right temp. Maybe bad spores. But I very strongly doubt it was my sterile procedure.

This is cobweb though yes? I know everyone says cobweb cobweb cobweb, but I'm almost certain this is. The smell is very odd. It's not "foul" stinky like ass, but it's smells very "dry" and like "death" a very bland pungent scent that just makes you make a straight face at it like "what?"




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