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Re: Honey Water LC, can I use this soon? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23441360 - 07/14/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Honey Water LC, can I use this soon? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23441439 - 07/14/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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but I do find it odd that the reason I would recommend temps in the 70's has yet to be touched on. It has actually little to do with the preferred colonization temps of cubes and more to do with the fact that most contams seem to do better once the mercury hits 80 and above.

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Avoiding bacterial blooms or keeping white molds from exploding has nothing to do with the preferred temps that cubes have and everything to do with what they can tolerate.




just wanted to put this out there, that supa did hit on this. a few times, actually.


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You can see how RR found that mycelium growth is the same from 75-81F while bacteria will be growing more prolifically the more the temp increases. So I ask, if the only difference between a 75F jar and 81F jar is the amount of bacteria it can grow, why would you opt for the latter when mycelium growth will be the same?

Sure, an LC will not generate the same amount of heat a grain jar will but why would you choose to promote more bacterial growth by incubating at 80F when you can incubate at 75f, get the same mycelium growth speed and promote less bacteria? Seems like a no-brainer to me.





I'm all for getting this thread back on track, but just wanted that to be seen. I respect both cultivators(and all of them here for that matter). Lets all just let it go, now :peace:


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Re: Honey Water LC, can I use this soon? [Re: Snazz]
    #23441566 - 07/14/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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My feelings are that matching the habitat and environment to the locale the organism evolved in = optimal.




Oh yep I'm sure the good Lord placed things only in the environments they do best in.  We all know it's impossible for an adaptive species to rough it through conditions they don't actually prefer.




Wow dude.  That is not even close to what I said.  No reading between the lines required




How can you even say that when your words are right there for everybody?


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Re: Honey Water LC, can I use this soon? [Re: blackout]
    #23442646 - 07/15/16 12:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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So what is he saying by putting that chart on there? This is a rhetoric question really, I have zero interest in what you have to say



That makes sense so, I have already posted it twice but you have no interest. Maybe some others are just as blind, so for their benefit, 3 more times.


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The TMC makes it pretty clear that substrate will be higher than the room air temp. Some people seem to think there was some oversight or mistake and think he recommended incubating in rooms at 86F or something. Now some may have read the book and incorrectly came up with that idea, but that is their mistake.





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The TMC makes it pretty clear that substrate will be higher than the room air temp. Some people seem to think there was some oversight or mistake and think he recommended incubating in rooms at 86F or something. Now some may have read the book and incorrectly came up with that idea, but that is their mistake.





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blackout said:
The TMC makes it pretty clear that substrate will be higher than the room air temp. Some people seem to think there was some oversight or mistake and think he recommended incubating in rooms at 86F or something. Now some may have read the book and incorrectly came up with that idea, but that is their mistake.








I'm sorry, but that has no bearing on what was being said. He does indeed recommend 86F as an "optimal" temp which is why, as I explained before, you always see it being recommended to store jars at 81F in older teks. This is entirely why I said "80F is way too much". At 80F, the core is closer to 85F and by then, colonization speed will already be dropping and bacteria is having a field day. Again, this is fine if you can't help it (middle of summer) but it's down-right stupid to purposely incubate jars at 80F when you have a room temp in the 70's.

Previously you also stated that I just say this stuff because I heard it before and I repeat it blindly. This cannot be further from the truth. One of the first things you learn in your first handful grows is the effect the temps has on your mycelium. I say 70's is optimal through my own experience, no one else's.

I'm gonna drop this now because it has gone for far too long. Hopefully this thread can start being productive again. I am sorry for the de-railment OP.


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