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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23430581 - 07/10/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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disarming the police would be another possible solution.




This I would LOVE to see, prolly be ok in those backward hillbilly red states but what the fuck do you think would happen in the inner cities?


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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23430585 - 07/10/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Sophistic Radiance said:
disarming the police would be another possible solution.




This I would LOVE to see, prolly be ok in those backward hillbilly red states but what the fuck do you think would happen in the inner cities?




this would work in Canada, but ya america cannot have disarmed police while the public have so many guns.

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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Ezuma]
    #23430894 - 07/10/16 11:57 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Sophistic Radiance said:
disarming the police would be another possible solution.




This I would LOVE to see, prolly be ok in those backward hillbilly red states but what the fuck do you think would happen in the inner cities?




this would work in Canada, but ya america cannot have disarmed police while the public have so many guns.





so you somehow think that my guns are a problem for a cop?

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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23430942 - 07/11/16 12:22 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

not necessarily, but the mere fact guns are abundant does mean cops require more firepower to maintain order

after all if the police force is outgunned by every second household they aren't terribly useful are they

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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot *DELETED* [Re: Ezuma]
    #23431175 - 07/11/16 03:37 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Niffla]
    #23431501 - 07/11/16 08:12 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Any of it worth reading?




Not really. It's pretty typical. Right leaners posting stats and facts. Left leaners calling right leaners names when the right leaners disagree with them.


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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Ezuma]
    #23431535 - 07/11/16 08:33 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Ezuma said:
not necessarily, but the mere fact guns are abundant does mean cops require more firepower to maintain order

after all if the police force is outgunned by every second household they aren't terribly useful are they




I hate to inform you of this, the people are pretty well behaved because the vast
majority dont care for the penalties associated with misbehaving, the police are
outgunned no matter what. even with the army for backup the populace has them
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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23431689 - 07/11/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I'm heading out to Fort Worth today so I'm gonna stop into downtown and see if I can snap any photos from the DPD or El Centro where they blew him up.
But first, I need to clear this warrant for a ticket I forgot to pay.

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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: qman]
    #23431703 - 07/11/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Justified means a different thing than necessary and it's been established that, on average, cops are four times more willing to end a Black life than a white one.

Do you see why they are chanting "black lives matter" in the streets? We're dealing with people (individuals, not a conspiracy) who evidently never got the memo that all lives matter, not just white ones.




Stop spewing a false narrative, blacks commit more violent crimes, as a result that get into more violent altercations with cops, as a result they end up getting killed more often.

Is the black on black murder statistics NOT real?  It kind of clues us in on the violence that take place in black culture, which ultimately reflects in conflicts with law enforcement.

BLM is a racist group of retards founded upon misinformation and lies, eventually they will be listed as a domestic terrorist organization and get banned by the government, it's just a matter of time.




Cops kill far more people per capita than black people do.

The cop homicide rate is about 100 per 100k, while the black homicide rate is about 10% of that. Cops are THE MOST DANGEROUS demographic in the country.


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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Sanguin3] * 1
    #23431721 - 07/11/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Sophistic Radiance said:
disarming the police would be another possible solution.




This I would LOVE to see, prolly be ok in those backward hillbilly red states but what the fuck do you think would happen in the inner cities?




this would work in Canada, but ya america cannot have disarmed police while the public have so many guns.




That would not work anywhere and is an absolutely stupid idea.




It seems work pretty well over here in the UK where the vast majority of the police do the job without guns. They do have armed back up, 'armed response units' to call upon when they need them. They don't seem to shoot many people though. Two so far this year, three last year. The worst year was 2005 when the shot dead six people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_Kingdom

I'm quite sure we would have a damn site more deaths by shooting if the population was armed to the teeth as they are in America, but, even when gun ownership was legal here, the number of gun owners was very small, 40000 weapons were handed in when they were banned, and like in America many of the holders would have owned large numbers as collectors, so, the nubmber of people inconveniencedwas probably less than a quarter of that. There were probably more 'shroomers' inconvenienced when the government banned psilocybe mushrooms, than gun owners.


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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #23431723 - 07/11/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm heading out to Fort Worth today so I'm gonna stop into downtown and see if I can snap any photos from the DPD or El Centro where they blew him up.
But first, I need to clear this warrant for a ticket I forgot to pay.




That part of downtown is still closed off, holmes.


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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Niffla]
    #23431726 - 07/11/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Oh wait, you can still hit up DPD headquarters.


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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: koods]
    #23431766 - 07/11/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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koods said:
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qman said:
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Sophistic Radiance said:
Justified means a different thing than necessary and it's been established that, on average, cops are four times more willing to end a Black life than a white one.

Do you see why they are chanting "black lives matter" in the streets? We're dealing with people (individuals, not a conspiracy) who evidently never got the memo that all lives matter, not just white ones.




Stop spewing a false narrative, blacks commit more violent crimes, as a result that get into more violent altercations with cops, as a result they end up getting killed more often.

Is the black on black murder statistics NOT real?  It kind of clues us in on the violence that take place in black culture, which ultimately reflects in conflicts with law enforcement.

BLM is a racist group of retards founded upon misinformation and lies, eventually they will be listed as a domestic terrorist organization and get banned by the government, it's just a matter of time.




Cops kill far more people per capita than black people do.

The cop homicide rate is about 100 per 100k, while the black homicide rate is about 10% of that. Cops are THE MOST DANGEROUS demographic in the country.




"Cops kill far more people per capita than black people do"

I would hope so since they're the one's sent to stop dangerous criminals on a daily basis. It kind of comes with the territory, so you're comparison is logically flawed.

"Cops are THE MOST DANGEROUS demographic in the country"

Another logical fallacy, killing dangerous criminals doesn't make them dangerous, it makes them a resource. You do realize that killing the Dallas shooter did NOT make the Dallas police department a dangerous demographic? :facepalm:

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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: qman] * 1
    #23431775 - 07/11/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

You think killing people is just part of a cops job, and that is the entire problem with people who hold your position. Killing people is NOT part of their job. Police forces around the world do their jobs without killing people left and right.


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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: koods]
    #23431802 - 07/11/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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You think killing people is just part of a cops job, and that is the entire problem with people who hold your position. Killing people is NOT part of their job. Police forces around the world do their jobs without killing people left and right.




It becomes part of their job because of the circumstances around their job, if someone is shooting at the police they can legally shoot back and kill the suspect.

When the Michael Brown's of the world sucker punch a cop in the eye and then tries to steal his gun, the cop is allowed to use deadly force, there aren't any alternatives in those types of scenarios.

The police are sent in to patrol very dangerous areas with people that are heavily armed, what do you think is going to happen when a crazy nut is pointing his gun at everyone?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/houston-cops-fatally-shoot-man-waving-gun-middle-street-article-1.2705286

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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Sanguin3]
    #23431821 - 07/11/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Sophistic Radiance said:
disarming the police would be another possible solution.




This I would LOVE to see, prolly be ok in those backward hillbilly red states but what the fuck do you think would happen in the inner cities?




this would work in Canada, but ya america cannot have disarmed police while the public have so many guns.




That would not work anywhere and is an absolutely stupid idea.




not really man, it works well in Europe, and in Canada cops don't use their guns as much as murica, thy just taze people for the most part. It's not a stupid idea if cops ar trained differently.

of course, you still need more heavily armed cops for some situations, but imo they don't need to be the ones patrolling constantly or doing traffic stops

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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23431826 - 07/11/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Ezuma said:
not necessarily, but the mere fact guns are abundant does mean cops require more firepower to maintain order

after all if the police force is outgunned by every second household they aren't terribly useful are they




I hate to inform you of this, the people are pretty well behaved because the vast
majority dont care for the penalties associated with misbehaving, the police are
outgunned no matter what. even with the army for backup the populace has them
outgunned




if you bring in the army people are screwed. People behave because the state has the power to enforce their laws, BECAUSE they have superior firepower. The people would never be united enough to pose a real threat to the establishment. IMO the hope for overthrowing your government went out the window some decades ago.

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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Ezuma] * 1
    #23431851 - 07/11/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

The problem with comparing cops in other nations to our cops is that in other nations I don't think there's nearly as many criminals who are prepared to shoot and kill a cop just because they don't want to spend a year in jail over a small amount of drugs or because they have a warrant. Disarming the police is not the answer and comparing our police force to ones who don't primarily carry guns is a highly flawed argument. It's just one aspect of a complicated issue. The most important aspect of that complicated issue is the number of armed criminals our police force interacts with on a daily basis that other nations likely do not.

We have a very widespread problem with an entire culture of people putting the highest value on carrying around guns, joining large criminal groups, committing the most crime they can to make the most money they can (you know, instead of getting a job or something) and a mindset akin to "they'll never take me alive". This used to be attributed to a "black thing" but it's not anymore. It's pretty widespread among all races.


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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Ezuma]
    #23431852 - 07/11/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Ezuma said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Ezuma said:
not necessarily, but the mere fact guns are abundant does mean cops require more firepower to maintain order

after all if the police force is outgunned by every second household they aren't terribly useful are they




I hate to inform you of this, the people are pretty well behaved because the vast
majority dont care for the penalties associated with misbehaving, the police are
outgunned no matter what. even with the army for backup the populace has them
outgunned




if you bring in the army people are screwed. People behave because the state has the power to enforce their laws, BECAUSE they have superior firepower. The people would never be united enough to pose a real threat to the establishment. IMO the hope for overthrowing your government went out the window some decades ago.




The army is the people, during fire fights in war time many troops shoot their own commanders, not all "friendly fire" is unintentional.

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Re: Dallas protest shooting, 2 officers shot [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23431881 - 07/11/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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We have a very widespread problem with an entire culture of people putting the highest value on carrying around guns, joining large criminal groups, committing the most crime they can to make the most money they can (you know, instead of getting a job or something) and a mindset akin to "they'll never take me alive". This used to be attributed to a "black thing" but it's not anymore. It's pretty widespread among all races.



Take note: ^^^ this is coming from a pro guns right supporter.


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