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#23430776 - 07/10/16 10:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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So, for all of the Bernie supporters who are currently feeling disenfranchised, you may find the current unfolding of Jeremy Corbyn's political story to be quite uplifting.
Jeremy Corbyn (often referred to as the "British Bernie Sanders") is a very strong leftist candidate. Like Bernie Sanders, he is a gruff old man, and he holds views that are unconventionally left wing. Corbyn is actually much more of a hard leftist than Bernie Sanders, and it appears has a strong shot at becoming the next prime minister of the UK. His labour campaign literally doubled the size of Labour Party membership in the UK, and like Sanders, he has been very well received by millennials.
Corbyn advocates policies such as the nationalization of public utilities, and the railway system. Until "Brexit", EU law will unfortunately make it difficult for a country to undertake such a task, as there are requirements to permit competition for these services. Corbyn also advocates government policies which encourage worker cooperative initiatives. One example is the policy of government forcing any company that wishes to leave the country to allow the workers an opportunity to purchase the company first. The government would assist the workers by providing them low interest loans to make this more feasible.
Corbyn is now the leader of the Labour Party. Officials in the party has lashed out against him, and recently there was coupe, in which other Labour members of parliament attempted (this is ongoing) to oust him. They wish to replace him with a relatively unknown and unpopular woman named Angela Eagle, as their candidate for the next Prime Minister.
What we are seeing is somewhat reminiscent of what is going on in the United States, but through a variety of circumstances Corbyn appears to be shaking things up in a great way in the UK. It would appear that he may very well be the next Prime Minister.
I think you fellas will find what is going on with all of this quite interesting, as I have.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23431392 - 07/11/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Definitely rooting for Corbyn, hopefully the brexit disaster will open some eyes of the disillusioned left.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23431646 - 07/11/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do you really consider Brett to be a disaster?.. I think it could go either way. In my mind it is just symbolic of the discontent for the political establishment in the UK, and in general.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23431650 - 07/11/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Corbyns no different to all the rest. Euro-skeptic for the whole of his political life, only to come out in favor of Remain, the status quo and a middle finger, high in the air to the British working classes at the last minuet.
He personally voted to leave the EU in the first British EU referendum in 1975!
His attempts to back track on his positions in this referendum, urging people to vote to stay, have effectively undermined the traditional working class Labour voter and i think you'll find that a very large majority of Labour voters will and all ready have, been lost to UKIP.
Do you have any info on how you came to the conclusion he could be the next PM? Because from where i'm standing, quite the opposite looks to be the reality!
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23431664 - 07/11/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Definitely rooting for Corbyn, hopefully the brexit disaster will open some eyes of the disillusioned left.
Do you really consider Brett to be a disaster?.. I think it could go either way. In my mind it is just symbolic of the discontent for the political establishment in the UK, and in general.
Ecstatic doesn't really have a clue when it comes to the EU. He fails to realize that the majority of national governments in Europe are center right 
If any thing, a true left wing government in Britain would do far better out side of the EU, than it would within it!
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Bubbles85] 1
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The Ecstatic said: Definitely rooting for Corbyn, hopefully the brexit disaster will open some eyes of the disillusioned left.
Do you really consider Brett to be a disaster?.. I think it could go either way. In my mind it is just symbolic of the discontent for the political establishment in the UK, and in general.
Ecstatic doesn't really have a clue when it comes to the EU. He fails to realize that the majority of national governments in Europe are center right 
If any thing, a true left wing government in Britain would do far better out side of the EU, than it would within it!
Oh, really? UK itself is way farther to the left than the US, and most of the rest of Europe is farther left than the UK.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23431822 - 07/11/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Like i said, you don't have a clue what you're talking about! Less than a third of the 503 million strong population of Europe are currently led by a left wing national government. All of whom are center left!
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Bubbles85] 1
#23431920 - 07/11/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Your idea of left and right is skewed because of how much further left the entire continent is compared to America.
Hell, if we tried to implement the NHS in the US, I cant even imagine the backlash.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23432022 - 07/11/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I guess, if you look at it from the perspective of a socialist health care system, but that's pretty much where it ends!
I'm guessing the US still provides every thing else the UK government does, for it's citizens?
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Bubbles85]
#23432238 - 07/11/16 02:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why do I think Corbyn might be the next Prime Minister? Why do you think he can't be? He has doubled party membership in the labor party. Corbyn is hugely popular, do you deny that? Maybe your right wing bias prevents you from acknowledging that. I happen to be a big fan of George Galloway also You need to get him back into politics!
I might add that perhaps the reason Corbyn has changed his mind on the Brexit issue, is because he doesn't want to be the one handling the fallout, whilst also being at odds with both parties. From what I've heard, this may be the straw that breaks the camel's back, causing Ireland and Scotland to succeed from the UK. I don't claim to be the authority on all of this, that is just what I understand at this point.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23432346 - 07/11/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bigbadwooof said: Why do I think Corbyn might be the next Prime Minister? Why do you think he can't be? He has doubled party membership in the labor party. Corbyn is hugely popular, do you deny that? Maybe your right wing bias prevents you from acknowledging that. I happen to be a big fan of George Galloway also You need to get him back into politics!
I don't deny that Corbyn has increased party membership, but doubling party members and obtaining the votes needed to win a general election, are two completely different things. Party members don't win elections!
As you've already stated, the majority of his own party are trying oust him!
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The majority of Labour are far more centralized politically than Corbyn him self. The pressure put on him by the party to back the EU, is probably one of the main factors contributing toward his last minuet Remain stance. The reality is on this issue, he sold out.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Bubbles85]
#23435175 - 07/12/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why do you Americans keep pontificating rubbish about the UK? Hardly any of you have ever been outside the United States, very few of you even have a passport.
Corbyn is certainly NOT popular - and he fails to portray himself at all well. He is a scruffy, grumpy old geezer who performs very poorly in parliament, where David Cameron runs rings round him. In the EU referendum his enthusiasm for Remain appeared very lukewarm, although it was his party´s declared position, and he refused to appear on the same platform as Cameron and lend support to their joint cause.
His own MPs have passed a huge vote of no confidence in him - however he has not shown the grace to do the decent thing, and insists on clinging on as an unpopular leader. He does, however, have the support of the loony left, and if he does stand in a leadership election the unions mass vote will probably see him in again. Not good for his party and very bad for my country - but he is too mule headed to see this.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Spanishfly]
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Spanishfly said: Why do you Americans keep pontificating rubbish about the UK? Hardly any of you have ever been outside the United States, very few of you even have a passport.
Corbyn is certainly NOT popular - and he fails to portray himself at all well. He is a scruffy, grumpy old geezer who performs very poorly in parliament, where David Cameron runs rings round him. In the EU referendum his enthusiasm for Remain appeared very lukewarm, although it was his party´s declared position, and he refused to appear on the same platform as Cameron and lend support to their joint cause.
His own MPs have passed a huge vote of no confidence in him - however he has not shown the grace to do the decent thing, and insists on clinging on as an unpopular leader. He does, however, have the support of the loony left, and if he does stand in a leadership election the unions mass vote will probably see him in again. Not good for his party and very bad for my country - but he is too mule headed to see this.
You are a conservative, I take it? I have every right to 'pontificate' about British politics, and I don't see anything wrong with taking an interest in foreign affairs. Do you? I see plenty of people from the UK going off about American politics on these forums.
Was Corbyn not Democratically elected? What am I missing here?
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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You are a conservative, I take it? I have every right to 'pontificate' about British politics, and I don't see anything wrong with taking an interest in foreign affairs. Do you? I see plenty of people from the UK going off about American politics on these forums.
Was Corbyn not Democratically elected? What am I missing here?
Ever been to Britain? Ever seen Corbyn´s dismal performances in the House of Commons? You have no real knowledge or experience of what you are lecturing us all about.
Perhaps I should react as aggressively as Americans do when a foreigner tries to lecture them on their stupid gun laws.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Spanishfly]
#23436958 - 07/13/16 04:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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On BBC TV right now - Andrew Neil presenting - Labour Party ´supporters´ (who paid 3 UKP and could vote last year) can vote in the Leadership election if they rejoin as ´Full Members´ this year and now pay 25 UKP.
Maybe a bit greedy??
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Spanishfly]
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You are a conservative, I take it? I have every right to 'pontificate' about British politics, and I don't see anything wrong with taking an interest in foreign affairs. Do you? I see plenty of people from the UK going off about American politics on these forums.
Was Corbyn not Democratically elected? What am I missing here?
Ever been to Britain? Ever seen Corbyn´s dismal performances in the House of Commons? You have no real knowledge or experience of what you are lecturing us all about.
Perhaps I should react as aggressively as Americans do when a foreigner tries to lecture them on their stupid gun laws.
Ever been to Britain? What kind of question is that? I have the fucking internet dude! Maybe you've heard of it. I have seen Corbyn "perform", and I don't exactly know where you guys get this idea that a politician must also be a showman. I find your PMQ sessions to be utterly childish, especially considering Cameron can't even answer Corbyn's questions. From my perspective, Corbyn appears to be the only respectable person out of the whole lot. We have plenty of showmen here in America and they make the worst of politicians. A wink and a smile doesn't make good policy.
The fact that Cameron has a slew of jokers laughing at Corbyn, does not make him intelligent, or his points clever/relevant. You probably think this guy is a killer rapper too:
I actually generally have a very respectful attitude toward the input of foreigners, and I appreciate the fact that they give a shit about our politics. You are being a downright rude prick, and it really isn't necessary. I don't pretend to know everything about British politics, but Corbyn has sparked my interest.
I really find it comical that you Europeans act so superior, and worldly, for your supposed knowledge on foreign affairs, yet criticize Americans for taking an interest.
So, as far as I am concerned, you can go fuck yourself, sir.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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I have every right to pontificate about British politics
YES you have EVERY right to PONTIFICATE about a country you have NEVER visited and of which you KNOW NOTHING.
I am a UK citizen, born in London, and consider myself to have EVERY right to tell you when you are talking out of your rectum - which would appear to be most of the time.
Incidentally I saw your big hero Corbyn get on his feet during PMQs yesterday to be BOOED by his own party members.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23439963 - 07/14/16 05:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I really find it comical that you Europeans act so superior, and worldly, for your supposed knowledge on foreign affairs, yet criticize Americans for taking an interest.
So, as far as I am concerned, you can go fuck yourself, sir.
Well, considering that 33% of Americans cannot point out the US on a world map, that comment hardly impresses me.
And I have not sworn at you, so I would prefer that you at least pretend to be a gentleman and not use abusive language to me.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Spanishfly]
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I really find it comical that you Europeans act so superior, and worldly, for your supposed knowledge on foreign affairs, yet criticize Americans for taking an interest.
So, as far as I am concerned, you can go fuck yourself, sir.
Well, considering that 33% of Americans cannot point out the US on a world map, that comment hardly impresses me.
How in the fuck are your faulty "statistics" relevant to any of this? Given what little it takes to impress you (ie, jeers from one party or the other, rather than substantive criticisms), I'm truly quite surprised.
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And I have not sworn at you, so I would prefer that you at least pretend to be a gentleman and not use abusive language to me.
I have used the appropriate language. As far as your statement about 33% of Americans, you sir, are speaking out of your rectum.
A populist politician not being supported by their party isn't anything new. Apparently you're easily distracted by schoolyard bullshit. I suppose you think Mrs Eagle is a more appropriate party leader? Lol! Yeah, I'm sure she'll bring in the vote!
You're honestly quite audacious to be calling me "abusive". You haven't even pretended to be a "gentleman" since you made the poor decision to make that first post on this thread.
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Tens of thousands of union members have been barred from voting in Labour’s closely fought leader’s election, party sources have confirmed.
It would appear that the left in both the UK, and here in America, don't want inclusive parties, and have little regard for democracy. It's funny, because they know that the populist candidate will garner more support, if voters are given the opportunity to have their say in the matter. If all 50 states had open primaries, Sanders would have won in a LANDSLIDE, and gone on to be president, undoubtedly. From where I am sitting now, I see a possibility of a Trump presidency.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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hey bigbadwoof ? Just how old are you? Your naivety and immature terminology would indicate that you are still in school.
I think you are LITTLE woof who needs to grow up before he can take part in an adult conversation. Fuck off kid.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Spanishfly]
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I think you are LITTLE woof who needs to grow up before he can take part in an adult conversation. Fuck off kid.
... Oh Jesus 
I thought I was too 'American' to take part in the conversation lmao! You know, this thread was started to create a discussion. If you don't want to take part in a discussion, fuck off. You can post this sort of silly nonsense in the pub
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Spanishfly]
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Bigbadwooof said: I have every right to 'pontificate' about British politics, and I don't see anything wrong with taking an interest in foreign affairs. Do you? I see plenty of people from the UK going off about American politics on these forums.
Was Corbyn not Democratically elected? What am I missing here?
Ever been to Britain? Ever seen Corbyn´s dismal performances in the House of Commons? You have no real knowledge or experience of what you are lecturing us all about.
What kind of question is that? I have the fucking internet dude! Maybe you've heard of it. I have seen Corbyn "perform". A wink and a smile doesn't make good policy.
YES you have EVERY right to PONTIFICATE about a country you have NEVER visited and of which you KNOW NOTHING.
I am a UK citizen, born in London, and consider myself to have EVERY right to tell you when you are talking out of your rectum - which would appear to be most of the time.
Dude, you know nothing more than about British politics than what you've seen on tv (unless you are with the British parliament), which is the same as what anyone else can see. Wooof is one of the smartest posters here, and your childish attitude about towards him because you disagree with him speaks volumes of you.
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So, Falcon, have you been paying attention to what's going on with Jeremy Corbyn in the UK at all? They have now restricted voting so that people who have recently joined the party (After January) can't vote for Corbyn as Angela Eagle, and Owen Smith challenge him for leadership. Neither Angela Eagle or Owen Smith are likely to beat him, which is quite funny, because they make him out to be some kind of ill-equipped, unelectable slob, and they don't have anything to offer in his stead lol!
Jeremy Corbyn increases dominant lead over Angela Eagle and Owen Smith among Labour Party members, poll finds 54% of party members surveryed would give first preference to current Labour leader
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According to a Times/YouGov poll of Labour members, the party leader would beat leadership contest rivals Angela Eagle and Owen Smith by more than 30 points.
The majority of those surveyed think Mr Corbyn is doing well, at 55 per cent, an increase of four points in a fortnight, while the proportion of those who think he is doing badly has dropped by seven points to 41 per cent.
... He would soundly beat Ms Eagle (21 per cent), who is facing a vote of no confidence in her own constituency, Wallasey, and fellow leadership contender Mr Smith (15 per cent).
It is almost like them giving a vote of no confidence in Trump, and then trying to put Mitch McConnell against him in a democratic election! lmao
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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I wouldn't get too wound up in this whole 'popular among party members' BBW. Like i already said, party members dont win elections and the way things are right now, i don't see Labour coming to power at any time in the foreseeable future!
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Bubbles85]
#23457245 - 07/19/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bubbles85 said: I wouldn't get too wound up in this whole 'popular among party members' BBW. Like i already said, party members dont win elections and the way things are right now, i don't see Labour coming to power at any time in the foreseeable future!
You're a right winger, aren't you? What is your reasoning for saying that labour couldn't win, just out of curiosity?
You know, it seemed pretty clear, here in America, that Republicans couldn't possibly take the presidency. Then, along came Trump, and things are looking much different now. Sanders could have easily won, also. You can't underestimate the power of an outsider candidate.
Either way, the Labour party doesn't seem to have anything better to offer than Corbyn. Angela Eagle certainly doesn't appear to be a safer bet. She voted for the Iraq war, and against the Chilcot report even being conducted. In the wake of the Chilcot report, it doesn't appear to be a very friendly climate to "Blairite" politicians, correct me if I am wrong. As far as I am aware, David Cameron has been somewhat of a disaster for the Tory's, am I wrong?
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23458969 - 07/20/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm definitely conservative on certain issues for sure, but would also consider myself more Liberal on others.
As for the Labour party, you've only got to look at the last local election results back in May, to see how unpopular Labour are amongst British voters. They suffered their biggest ever losses with Corbyn as leader in the last local elections and its been down hill ever since.
He may be more popular than his predecessor among party members, but the same can not be said with regards to the British public!
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WOOF WOOF WOOF - makes about as much sense
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Dude, you know nothing more than about British politics than what you've seen on tv (unless you are with the British parliament), which is the same as what anyone else can see. Wooof is one of the smartest posters here, and your childish attitude about towards him because you disagree with him speaks volumes of you.
Look you dopey kid - I was BORN there - been voting there since God knows when. Shame you are too stupid to READ the posts to which you are so quick to post crap in return.
WOOF IS Smart ??!!! Yeah right - like Dubya has a high IQ !!
Just what is it with these dumbass Americans - none of them actually have a passport - NONE of them ever been outside their own country - and they have to gall to lecture me on my own country´s politics.
Maybe I should tell them what I think about American gun laws - how YOU GUYS should reduce the slaughter that American gun ownership causes - That will probably go down about as well. Jeez don´t you assholes know that 10 children in the US are killed by guns EVERY DAY. Yeah I probably know about as much.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Spanishfly] 1
#23519192 - 08/07/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dude, you know nothing more than about British politics than what you've seen on tv (unless you are with the British parliament), which is the same as what anyone else can see. Wooof is one of the smartest posters here, and your childish attitude about towards him because you disagree with him speaks volumes of you.
Look you dopey kid - I was BORN there - been voting there since God knows when. Shame you are too stupid to READ the posts to which you are so quick to post crap in return.
WOOF IS Smart ??!!! Yeah right - like Dubya has a high IQ !!
Just what is it with these dumbass Americans - none of them actually have a passport - NONE of them ever been outside their own country - and they have to gall to lecture me on my own country´s politics.
Maybe I should tell them what I think about American gun laws - how YOU GUYS should reduce the slaughter that American gun ownership causes - That will probably go down about as well. Jeez don´t you assholes know that 10 children in the US are killed by guns EVERY DAY. Yeah I probably know about as much.
How dare you criticize Americans, I was born here! Your insight is null and void!
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23520204 - 08/07/16 08:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Dude, you know nothing more than about British politics than what you've seen on tv (unless you are with the British parliament), which is the same as what anyone else can see. Wooof is one of the smartest posters here, and your childish attitude about towards him because you disagree with him speaks volumes of you.
Look you dopey kid - I was BORN there - been voting there since God knows when. Shame you are too stupid to READ the posts to which you are so quick to post crap in return.
WOOF IS Smart ??!!! Yeah right - like Dubya has a high IQ !!
Just what is it with these dumbass Americans - none of them actually have a passport - NONE of them ever been outside their own country - and they have to gall to lecture me on my own country´s politics.
Maybe I should tell them what I think about American gun laws - how YOU GUYS should reduce the slaughter that American gun ownership causes - That will probably go down about as well. Jeez don´t you assholes know that 10 children in the US are killed by guns EVERY DAY. Yeah I probably know about as much.
How dare you criticize Americans, I was born here! Your insight is null and void!
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#23521982 - 08/08/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Dude, you know nothing more than about British politics than what you've seen on tv (unless you are with the British parliament), which is the same as what anyone else can see. Wooof is one of the smartest posters here, and your childish attitude about towards him because you disagree with him speaks volumes of you.
Look you dopey kid - I was BORN there - been voting there since God knows when. Shame you are too stupid to READ the posts to which you are so quick to post crap in return.
WOOF IS Smart ??!!! Yeah right - like Dubya has a high IQ !!
Just what is it with these dumbass Americans - none of them actually have a passport - NONE of them ever been outside their own country - and they have to gall to lecture me on my own country´s politics.
Maybe I should tell them what I think about American gun laws - how YOU GUYS should reduce the slaughter that American gun ownership causes - That will probably go down about as well. Jeez don´t you assholes know that 10 children in the US are killed by guns EVERY DAY. Yeah I probably know about as much.
How dare you criticize Americans, I was born here! Your insight is null and void!
Wow, this guy should have been banned from the political forum for both of his last comments. I really didn't want this thread to turn into childish rambling. I want to discuss politics.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Dude, you know nothing more than about British politics than what you've seen on tv (unless you are with the British parliament), which is the same as what anyone else can see. Wooof is one of the smartest posters here, and your childish attitude about towards him because you disagree with him speaks volumes of you.
Look you dopey kid - I was BORN there - been voting there since God knows when. Shame you are too stupid to READ the posts to which you are so quick to post crap in return.
WOOF IS Smart ??!!! Yeah right - like Dubya has a high IQ !!
Just what is it with these dumbass Americans - none of them actually have a passport - NONE of them ever been outside their own country - and they have to gall to lecture me on my own country´s politics.
Maybe I should tell them what I think about American gun laws - how YOU GUYS should reduce the slaughter that American gun ownership causes - That will probably go down about as well. Jeez don´t you assholes know that 10 children in the US are killed by guns EVERY DAY. Yeah I probably know about as much.
How dare you criticize Americans, I was born here! Your insight is null and void!
Wow, this guy should have been banned from the political forum for both of his last comments. I really didn't want this thread to turn into childish rambling. I want to discuss politics.
Haha! Says the first guy to throw insults against his opponents when his logic fails, wow, too fucking funny
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Spanishfly said: Just what is it with these dumbass Americans - they have to gall to lecture me on my own country´s politics.
How dare you criticize Americans, I was born here! Your insight is null and void!
Wow, this guy should have been banned from the political forum for both of his last comments. I really didn't want this thread to turn into childish rambling. I want to discuss politics.
Haha! Says the first guy to throw insults against his opponents when his logic fails, wow, too fucking funny 
I see The Ecstatic's logic went right over your head, as did the reason for wooof's commentary.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Wow, this guy should have been banned from the political forum for both of his last comments. I really didn't want this thread to turn into childish rambling. I want to discuss politics.
Haha! Says the first guy to throw insults against his opponents when his logic fails, wow, too fucking funny 
I see The Ecstatic's logic went right over your head, as did the reason for wooof's commentary.
I wonder if HU realizes how many times this guy has called him (as an American) an idiot in this thread!
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn of the UK Labor Party [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23522937 - 08/08/16 07:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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-------------------- I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them. I also attack my side if I think they're wrong. People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.
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