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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: morrowasted]
    #23437364 - 07/13/16 08:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I just want to point out that according to the stats in the OP blacks account for 29% of the deaths by police among whites, hispanics, and blacks, but blacks only make up 12% of the population.

Not saying the BLM movement is legit. When you commit violent crimes, you're more likely to get shot. While black youths only account for 16% percent of the population under 18, they account for 59% of the homicide arrests. So it's not surprising that they are getting into situations where they get shot more often.

Having said that, I think every case should be considered separately. There are definitely cases of police brutality where racism is a factor.




Several posters already pointed out the population to incidence ratio, i'm sure someone else will come in and point out some statistic saying that african americans ommit a higher percentage of crime and murder in the country again, all to bring the arguments full circle again.

The people in the blm movent have said quite a lot of racist things and there's a lot of stuff i've seen on social media about "the white man" and "whitey" from those of aftican american decent. All their movement is doing imo is dividing up the population based on race and marginalizing the deaths of non african-american decent by cops.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23437382 - 07/13/16 09:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Frankly, if it weren't for BLM, nobody would even be paying attention to police brutality at all.





bullshit.



Either white people dont face police brutality or the media ignores it, which is it?




Of course the media ignores it, number one it doesn't fit their narrative because white people deserve what they get, and number two it's boring news.

The media has created a narrative which doesn't even exist, blacks are NOT being systematically killed by cops. There is no conspiracy, this is what happens when a criminal culture interacts with law enforcement.

If law enforcement truly wanted to commit genocide on black males, there wouldn't be any of them in the US today.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23437422 - 07/13/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Frankly, if it weren't for BLM, nobody would even be paying attention to police brutality at all.





bullshit.



Either white people dont face police brutality or the media ignores it, which is it?





black lives matters ignores it, they're a racist organization that wants to
marginalize the largest group that's killed by police while their trivial
numbers of people killed by police are trumpeted by themselves, politicians
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23437574 - 07/13/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Frankly, if it weren't for BLM, nobody would even be paying attention to police brutality at all.





bullshit.




People have been up in arms and protesting police brutality for as long as I can remember. Have people forgotten when los Angeles burned on April 29th 1992?

And honestly every time I open up one of head threads about police, the discussion strays early and often from police brutality to discussion about race.

This is why they shouldn't have named their organization black lives matter, and focused on police brutality. The problem is compounded by the media only showing and focusing on cases where the shooting is most likely justified.

There is real police brutality, you're least likely to find cases of it on television though.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Supachopped719]
    #23437593 - 07/13/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

the black lives matter movement isn't a contest about who gets murdered more by the police it's about black people getting killed by the cops for no reason.


Edited by Mushroom Tips (07/13/16 10:55 AM)


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Mushroom Tips]
    #23437607 - 07/13/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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the black lives matter movement isn't a contest about who gets murdered more by the police it's about black people getting killed by the cops for no reason.




It started with Michael Brown getting killed by Darren Wilson, that was a justifiable killing, BLM was founded upon lies and misinformation.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: qman] * 1
    #23437707 - 07/13/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Wonder why BLM isn't talking about this


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Shroomism]
    #23437714 - 07/13/16 12:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

what the fuck did i just watch? did all three of them just get fired upon while sitting in a car listening to music?


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: 404]
    #23437720 - 07/13/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yes.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Shroomism]
    #23437724 - 07/13/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Wonder why BLM isn't talking about this





That is seriously tucked up, the cops just rolled up and opened fire on them, how rude! :psycrankey:


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Shroomism]
    #23437727 - 07/13/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Who did the shooting? I'm gonna assume it wasn't the police.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: 404]
    #23437730 - 07/13/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Who did the shooting? I'm gonna assume it wasn't the police.




Who else would it be?:shrug:


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23437734 - 07/13/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Really? Like civilians don't engage in violent crimes every day. the cops would have at least pulled them over or talked to them first. This was probably gang related or something.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: 404]
    #23437737 - 07/13/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Some other black guys. Likely gang related.
Funny enough I don't think any of those guys died. Like 30 shots and they didn't even kill one person.. that's some bad close range shooting.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: 404]
    #23437742 - 07/13/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Really? Like civilians don't engage in violent crimes every day. the cops would have at least pulled them over or talked to them first. This was probably gang related or something.




Did you see any civilians? If not, it was cops


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Shroomism]
    #23437746 - 07/13/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

http://abcnews.go.com/US/men-allegedly-shot-filming-facebook-live-video-virginia/story?id=40535418

"Investigators have not released any information about the suspects or a motive."


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Shroomism]
    #23437745 - 07/13/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

This seems to happen more and more often i just saw a couple videos like that before very recently

The black on black crime should be the MAIN focus of black lives matter, police brutality should be farther down the list.

I remember seeing videos of old white women getting tased :canthelpbutlaugh:

Those were the days tho


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23437751 - 07/13/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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NORFOLK, Va. – Police are investigating a Facebook Live video that apparently recorded the moment three men were shot while sitting in a car in Norfolk, Virginia, Tuesday.

The graphic video shows the three men listening to music, a man in the front passenger seat holding the phone. Suddenly, the phone drops to the floor of the car as what sounds like at least 30 gunshots can be heard in the background.

“Call 911,” a man can be heard saying. “We need an ambulance, there’s three of us shot." While police have not officially said the Facebook Live video was recorded at the Bainbridge Street location, a man can be heard in the video giving the emergency operator the same address.

All three victims were rushed to Sentara Norfolk General Hospital for treatment. Two of the men have life-threatening injuries and one has non-life threatening injuries, according to the Norfolk Police Department.





Cops may be bad but they don't just walk up to parked car and start shooting without even saying a word.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23437754 - 07/13/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Really? Like civilians don't engage in violent crimes every day. the cops would have at least pulled them over or talked to them first. This was probably gang related or something.




Did you see any civilians? If not, it was cops




Did you see any cops? no? ok. then you don't know it was the police and given their overall SOP it likely wasn't them.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #23437757 - 07/13/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Some other black guys. Likely gang related.
Funny enough I don't think any of those guys died. Like 30 shots and they didn't even kill one person.. that's some bad close range shooting.




Yeah, cops are typically better trained in using firearms... the also don't hold pistols like retards


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