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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23434474 - 07/12/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:

maybe hispanics are less likely to do the stupid shit
whites and blacks do when they have encounter with police which could explain
why fewer of them end up dead in these encounters




It occurred to me that the illegal hispanics don't commit as much crime as some others because they don't want to attract the attention of the authorities and risk deportation, and the legal hispanics are just happy to have gotten away from the hellholes they were born into and now live in the relative peace and safety of the US.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23434480 - 07/12/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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deucedbi9 said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:

maybe hispanics are less likely to do the stupid shit
whites and blacks do when they have encounter with police which could explain
why fewer of them end up dead in these encounters




It occurred to me that the illegal hispanics don't commit as much crime as some others because they don't want to attract the attention of the authorities and risk deportation, and the legal hispanics are just happy to have gotten away from the hellholes they were born into and now live in the relative peace and safety of the US.




Illegal Hispanics are filled in US prisons.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23434483 - 07/12/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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deucedbi9 said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:

maybe hispanics are less likely to do the stupid shit
whites and blacks do when they have encounter with police which could explain
why fewer of them end up dead in these encounters




It occurred to me that the illegal hispanics don't commit as much crime as some others because they don't want to attract the attention of the authorities and risk deportation, and the legal hispanics are just happy to have gotten away from the hellholes they were born into and now live in the relative peace and safety of the US.





we cant know that for sure because they know about obama's catch and release
policy, if they're trying to come into the country obama will send them back
to mexico, if they're already here obama has established a policy of letting
them go, obama also established a policy in which cops cannot ask about their
legal status so how do we know what percentage of crimes are committed by
illegals as opposed to legal aliens/citizens


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23434503 - 07/12/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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what you're saying is that you're a racist progressive that
believes we need to let the violent criminals go as long as they're black




What you're saying is we need to let the violent criminals go as long as they're cops

Cops kill people at 30x the rate of the average citizen. Lets get them off the street now


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: koods] * 2
    #23434508 - 07/12/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If we disarm the cops, the streets will be safer!:cookiemonster:


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Ezuma] * 1
    #23434523 - 07/12/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Ezuma said:
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keyser_soze said:
BLM is funded.

The puppet masters created this smaller "rebellion" to quell the larger one --the american revolution #2.

By creating distrust between races in america again, they have chipped away and are continuing to chip away at the citizens ability to revolt as a whole against the government as a whole.

If you make teammates extremely pissed off at each other, what are the odds they will play in the same game?




I actually agree, imo identity politics and all that are important on a social level, but the crazed shitshow we got going is imo intended to distract from the real problem of class and disparity, not just within america but abroad. A divided underclass is a weak underclass. If people put aside their petty hatreds they would realize who they're real enemies are.

sigh




listen y'all,

i've been out there and i've heard people on the streets talking about this stuff directly. Not the 'puppet masters' or any abstract notion of an organization which you can read about on these little screens, but the people who are actually out there making the moves.

They just want to come together, it's not a racist movement. It's just about being heard, and even if more white people have been killed by cops than black people ( in July 2016, btw, how credible is that source? ) black people are still targeted more than white people, and have to be on constant surveillance of their surroundings just to make sure they aren't being harassed or worse.

It's so dumb to think that BLM is racist, to think so is actually just cowardice due to being unable to accept the reality of systematic racism and propagandized white supremacy. For white people, we get to walk around and just ignore the cops, maybe feel a bit tense when we see one, keep that weed in your sock, but it's not like we're being targeted and singled out by police. For black people, it's a serious and constant threat. Even from black cops. And that's fucked up. It comes to a head when black guys get murdered, execution style, in the streets. And obviously it hasn't slowed down since it started to pick up, so now we're taking to the streets and trying to be heard.

Don't let the drama plastered on the news, radio and internet sway your opinion and beliefs. Go out there and meet people. Talk to them and experience it first hand. Then you'll see what it's really all about.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: 404] * 1
    #23434530 - 07/12/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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404 said:
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So you think demographic studies make it more justified to kill members of a certain group of people, regardless to anything they actually do and regardless to whether they pose an actual threat to police or the public.

I'm not going to sugarcoat this for you. That shit's racist, dude. You seem like a nice person but the views you are defending are racist as fuck.

racist racist racist

deal with it.




I'm sorry, so is the BLM movement... know why? because all of it is about race and again... skirts away from the real issue. people being executed. I've see videos of white teenagers dying being tased and shot (albeit they were being stupid too) but none of that really gets any media attention.

Race is not the issue here, violence and the police are.




Acknowledging race is not the same as racism. Why is this so difficult?


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: koods] * 1
    #23434537 - 07/12/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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koods said:
Quote:

what you're saying is that you're a racist progressive that
believes we need to let the violent criminals go as long as they're black




What you're saying is we need to let the violent criminals go as long as they're cops




what you're doing is spewing vitriolic diarrhea from that with no foundation in reality

Quote:

Cops kill people at 30x the rate of the average citizen. Lets get them off the street now




when was the last time you were sent on a 911 call to look into a liquor store robbery


a glazier installs more glass than you
a metal fabricator welds more than you
a cashier rings up more customers than you
a framer handles more wood than you
a plumber lays more pipe than you

those last two may be inaccurate but regardless, cops are sent to locations to
look ingo the activities of criminals while the average citizen is not sop maybe
there's a reason why they shoot 30x more criminals than you and I would, but
hey, arent you also one of those same liberals that whined that the cops stopped
doing their jobs and here you are saying they need to not do their jobs. I
personally am all for it, remove law enforcement and the judicial system
completely and let those of us with guns sort it out. you may want to buy a gun


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23434540 - 07/12/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Sophistic Radiance said:

Acknowledging race is not the same as racism. Why is this so difficult?






fabricating lies regarding certain races is racism


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Prisoner#1] * 4
    #23434541 - 07/12/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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a plumber lays more pipe than you



That's a fucking lie


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: koods]
    #23434542 - 07/12/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I said you may actually lay more pipe and handle more wood.
I've seen the porns and it may be a really close race on that one


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23434553 - 07/12/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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If we disarm the cops, the streets will be safer!:cookiemonster:




I you disarm everybody the streets will in fact be waaaay safer.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Patlal]
    #23434559 - 07/12/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

supposedly, but how do you disarm everybody? I mean someone's gonna have a gun. Then they have so much power, because no one else is armed...

what we're talkin' bout here is a govnmt shut down on guns. Like clamp - shut - as in Japan... but even there people can find ways to get guns.
It's crazy I know, but I think guns are alright for the moment, so long as there are tighter regulations and outright bans on things like AR-15s, fuck that who needs a damn machine gun to kill a deer...


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #23434604 - 07/12/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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hostileuniverse said:
If we disarm the cops, the streets will be safer!:cookiemonster:




I you disarm everybody the streets will in fact be waaaay safer.




Way safer for who? The old? Women? The weak? The infirm?


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23434781 - 07/12/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Are some here saying its ridiculous to tie all the black lives matter movement people all together as racists because a few bad eggs?

That sounds familiar, where have i heard that before?


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 2
    #23434855 - 07/12/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
Quote:

hostileuniverse said:
If we disarm the cops, the streets will be safer!:cookiemonster:




I you disarm everybody the streets will in fact be waaaay safer.




Way safer for who? The old? Women? The weak? The infirm?




Safer for purse snatchers, and that all anyone cares about anyway, look at BLM's defense of only criminals, they give not two fucks about innocent people shot dead, but everyone one of their "rallying cries" is centered around career criminals, I don't think that's a coincidence


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23434922 - 07/12/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Sophistic Radiance said:

Acknowledging race is not the same as racism. Why is this so difficult?






fabricating lies regarding certain races is racism




But 404 said that just focusing or talking about race is racist, and I tend to see that view reflected often around here, not the least by you. I wonder what made you change your tune?


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Plain] * 3
    #23434986 - 07/12/16 01:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Are some here saying its ridiculous to tie all the black lives matter movement people all together as racists because a few bad eggs?

That sounds familiar, where have i heard that before?





'Not all blacks are bad' as opposed to 'all cops are bad'.

That seems to be what the less intelligent are saying.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Chakra Shock]
    #23435044 - 07/12/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Chakra Shock said:
Quote:

Ezuma said:
Quote:

keyser_soze said:
BLM is funded.

The puppet masters created this smaller "rebellion" to quell the larger one --the american revolution #2.

By creating distrust between races in america again, they have chipped away and are continuing to chip away at the citizens ability to revolt as a whole against the government as a whole.

If you make teammates extremely pissed off at each other, what are the odds they will play in the same game?




I actually agree, imo identity politics and all that are important on a social level, but the crazed shitshow we got going is imo intended to distract from the real problem of class and disparity, not just within america but abroad. A divided underclass is a weak underclass. If people put aside their petty hatreds they would realize who they're real enemies are.

sigh




listen y'all,

i've been out there and i've heard people on the streets talking about this stuff directly. Not the 'puppet masters' or any abstract notion of an organization which you can read about on these little screens, but the people who are actually out there making the moves.

They just want to come together, it's not a racist movement. It's just about being heard, and even if more white people have been killed by cops than black people ( in July 2016, btw, how credible is that source? ) black people are still targeted more than white people, and have to be on constant surveillance of their surroundings just to make sure they aren't being harassed or worse.

It's so dumb to think that BLM is racist, to think so is actually just cowardice due to being unable to accept the reality of systematic racism and propagandized white supremacy. For white people, we get to walk around and just ignore the cops, maybe feel a bit tense when we see one, keep that weed in your sock, but it's not like we're being targeted and singled out by police. For black people, it's a serious and constant threat. Even from black cops. And that's fucked up. It comes to a head when black guys get murdered, execution style, in the streets. And obviously it hasn't slowed down since it started to pick up, so now we're taking to the streets and trying to be heard.

Don't let the drama plastered on the news, radio and internet sway your opinion and beliefs. Go out there and meet people. Talk to them and experience it first hand. Then you'll see what it's really all about.




BLM was founded upon lies and misinformation, Michael Brown tried to kill a cop and as a result he had to be killed, that wasn't "execution style", it was self-defense.

Does BLM acknowledge this fact?  No, because they have a agenda, spread propaganda to make political gain.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: qman]
    #23435124 - 07/12/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

BLM is a grassroots movement first and foremost, most people who are a 'part of it' have nothing to do with any official organization. I'm talking about the people who are going out in the streets and protesting. They are not all a part of an organization, it is spontaneous. Black Lives Matter is a phrase which expresses the necessity for change regarding the way in which police officers relate to Black people, Latinx people and all minorities. Besides, in some cities, the biggest protests are organized by the NAACP, not BLM.


You say BLM like it's one person, or that one person could speak for all of it, but you're wrong.

and dude, seriously? I'm talking about Alton Sterling being executed. What about the man who was choked to death for loitering, saying "I can't breathe"? What about Philando Castille who was shot in front of his girlfriend and his four year old daughter? What about the countless people who have been murdered in similar situations? It's not just about one example of police brutality, but all of it.

You spin these situations to your agenda as if you really care about the truth, but you're ignoring the majority of the facts and incidences which have inspired the movement.

If the virtue of an organization can be based solely on the circumstances of its foundation, as opposed to the character of its actions and its message, then look at the United States, being founded amidst slavery, debtor's prisons, colonialism and genocide. And yet would you stand for America?

and if the official organization is trying to make political gain, then good! We need new legislation, because the current political system fucking sucks! Think about what you're trying to protect, man, talking about "political gain" like some evil conspiracy. The evil is already in the system, and there are people out there who are trying to change that, so yes they will be needing to make political gains.


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