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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23466574 - 07/22/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Ive seen you call black people thugs several times during the course of this thread already. Its appalling.




Some black people are thugs. So are some white people. To state that calling a thug a thug is somehow racist is just ludicrous.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23466578 - 07/22/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Fucking lol. My first reply was a couple pages ago and I haven't said the word thug a single time. I am however going to straight up call you an idiot who obviously has trouble with reading comprehension right now, consequences be what they may.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #23466584 - 07/22/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I really dislike black people





dude dont even.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #23466589 - 07/22/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Its directly related to what you qouted. The disparity is right there. You seem to like calling blacks thugs. The problem is the racist legal system and blacklivesmatter has legitimate grievances against it.




If you could read, you would see that TE claimed that "The majority of the disparity between black and white criminality is in relation to nonviolent drug offense" and I replied "No it isn't." I didn't say anything about whether or not there is in fact a disparity in drug arrest rates, I said that it is not the case that that disparity accounts for the majority of the disparity between black and white criminality. Hence your post was irrelevant to what I was saying.

I didn't call blacks thugs. Lol, you're ridiculous.




Where is the disparity higher than drug arrests?


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23466596 - 07/22/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Ive seen you call black people thugs several times during the course of this thread already. Its appalling.




Some black people are thugs. So are some white people. To state that calling a thug a thug is somehow racist is just ludicrous.




No more ridiculous than suggesting racism has nothing to do with the differences with statistics.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #23466607 - 07/22/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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And finally, id say the militarization of police also disproportionately affects blacks. Blacks tend to be poorer than whites, live in poor neighborhoods, poverty breeds crime, police patrol poor crime stricken neighborhoods, more blacks in the crosshairs. Deduction.

BLM didnt just crop up for no reason.




What do you think the outcome would be if police removed their presence in poorer black neighborhoods?  Would the crime go down just because it isn't recorded and prosecuted?




Of course the crime would go down, seeing as how our metric for crime in this thread is wholly based on records and prosecution.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23466613 - 07/22/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I really dislike black people





dude dont even.




You're probably the worst debater on this site. You're asinine and truly shameful.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23466619 - 07/22/16 04:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Not to mention the whole premise of policing black areas more heavily is completely against the presumption of innocence. Its institutional oppression.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23466643 - 07/22/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Ive seen you call black people thugs several times during the course of this thread already. Its appalling.




Some black people are thugs. So are some white people. To state that calling a thug a thug is somehow racist is just ludicrous.




No more ridiculous than suggesting racism has nothing to do with the differences with statistics.





No, far more. Attempting to redefine words to suit an argument is both ludicrous and disingenuous.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23466647 - 07/22/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Not to mention the whole premise of policing black areas more heavily is completely against the presumption of innocence. Its institutional oppression.




Two ludicrous statements in a day. Police do, and should, go where the crime is. If certain neighborhoods have a higher rate, that's precisely where the cops should be.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23466649 - 07/22/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

We need to inform the scientific community that if their experiments produce data they don't like they can just claim nature is racist.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #23466653 - 07/22/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #23466657 - 07/22/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)


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We need to inform the scientific community that if their experiments produce data they don't like they can just claim nature is racist.




In what circumstance would that be the case?

Race is a social construct.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #23466660 - 07/22/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Not to mention the whole premise of policing black areas more heavily is completely against the presumption of innocence. Its institutional oppression.




No it isn't.  If there is a high rate of crime and police called to a certain area, it is only logical that police presence is increased in that area.  If a white neighborhood reports a string of break-ins, then police presence would be increased in that area. 

Things like "Stop and Frisk" IS against the presumption of innocence and a direct violation of rights and CAN be used to profile.  That is localized corruption, not nationwide systemic corruption.

A police presence in a high crime area is called common sense.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23466661 - 07/22/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Relevant to the thread:



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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23466663 - 07/22/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

1966.  :lolsy:


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23466666 - 07/22/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Indeed....


Strange how disapproval of uppity negro demonstrations hasnt changed in half a century.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #23466668 - 07/22/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Not to mention the whole premise of policing black areas more heavily is completely against the presumption of innocence. Its institutional oppression.




No it isn't.  If there is a high rate of crime and police called to a certain area, it is only logical that police presence is increased in that area.  If a white neighborhood reports a string of break-ins, then police presence would be increased in that area. 

Things like "Stop and Frisk" IS against the presumption of innocence and a direct violation of rights and CAN be used to profile.  That is localized corruption, not nationwide systemic corruption.

A police presence in a high crime area is called common sense.




Prove its localized, back up what you're saying. Police presence is fine, targeting blacks is not. Theres clear indicators theyre being targeted. The statistics that indicate this are gathered from federal agencies.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23466674 - 07/22/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Perhaps' it's not 'uppity negroes', but rather what they are currently being 'uppity' about.

Regardless, 1966!  :lolsy:

Why not go back to the 1800's? It'd be equally irrelevant.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
    #23466678 - 07/22/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Prove its localized, back up what you're saying. Police presence is fine, targeting blacks is not. Theres clear indicators theyre being targeted. The statistics that indicate this are gathered from federal agencies.




Actually, it's been demonstrated that blacks commit a significantly disproportionate level of crime.


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