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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Crystal G]
    #23459386 - 07/20/16 11:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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As far as people being cut off government services because they're making more money, good.
If you have a job, pay for your own damn food. That should already be the case.




Food is the least of it, and the least expensive part of welfare. There's health insurance, and there's also low-cost daycare. Being ineligible for low cost daycare means that full-time minimum wage workers would resort to either working only part-time to meet the minimum, or completely quitting their job once they realize practically their entire paycheck is going to pay for daycare.

The #1 reason that Americans go into bankruptcy is because of medical emergencies or health issues.

So you mean to tell me you want a decent standard of living but then want $15 per hour minimum wage workers to struggle with medical and daycare costs, okay. :cookiemonster:




The medical / health care industry needs to be reformed, that's an entirely different issue.
Personally I'm for socialized medicine, with optional private healthcare.


Daycare is your own responsibility, have grandma watch your kids while your at work.

Maybe people should think things through before having kids they can't afford while simultaneously running away from their families. Don't have family to help out and you're poor? Don't have kids, use protection, have an abortion, jump off a cliff.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: qman]
    #23459396 - 07/20/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/19/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/

There's enough to under cut wages for low-skilled workers and ultimately lower wages for all workers.




In any case I definitely support deportation of illegal immigrants.

As far as where to put them if they're not welcome in their home countries or won't declare, don't care. Throw them in Canada.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23459399 - 07/20/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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Repertoire89 said:
As far as people being cut off government services because they're making more money, good.
If you have a job, pay for your own damn food. That should already be the case.




Food is the least of it, and the least expensive part of welfare. There's health insurance, and there's also low-cost daycare. Being ineligible for low cost daycare means that full-time minimum wage workers would resort to either working only part-time to meet the minimum, or completely quitting their job once they realize practically their entire paycheck is going to pay for daycare.

The #1 reason that Americans go into bankruptcy is because of medical emergencies or health issues.

So you mean to tell me you want a decent standard of living but then want $15 per hour minimum wage workers to struggle with medical and daycare costs, okay. :cookiemonster:




Having kids is a choice, why would low wage earners choose to have children?  It makes NO sense.

The one number one cause of poverty?  People having children they can't afford.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: qman]
    #23459408 - 07/20/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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At its core the majority of BLM protesters only want equal treatment and that's why they're marching.  I think it can only happen once certain parts of the black community can acknowledge the destructive aspects of their culture such as glorifying wickedness and the staggeringly disproportionate amount of violent crime and murder from a small part of the population as being part of- if not the main cause of police stereotyping them.  This is not to say racist police don't exist. 




There are groups that address the issue of violence and other social ills in the black community. Black Lives Matter is about police violence. Why do they have to tackle all these other issues?


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: koods] * 1
    #23459465 - 07/20/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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At its core the majority of BLM protesters only want equal treatment and that's why they're marching.  I think it can only happen once certain parts of the black community can acknowledge the destructive aspects of their culture such as glorifying wickedness and the staggeringly disproportionate amount of violent crime and murder from a small part of the population as being part of- if not the main cause of police stereotyping them.  This is not to say racist police don't exist. 




There are groups that address the issue of violence and other social ills in the black community. Black Lives Matter is about police violence. Why do they have to tackle all these other issues?




"is about police violence"

Not true, they're sticking their noses in everything at this point. http://blacklivesmatter.com/guiding-principles/


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23459597 - 07/20/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Having kids is a choice, why would low wage earners choose to have children?  It makes NO sense.

The one number one cause of poverty?  People having children they can't afford.




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The medical / health care industry needs to be reformed, that's an entirely different issue.
Personally I'm for socialized medicine, with optional private healthcare.


Daycare is your own responsibility, have grandma watch your kids while your at work.

Maybe people should think things through before having kids they can't afford while simultaneously running away from their families. Don't have family to help out and you're poor? Don't have kids, use protection, have an abortion, jump off a cliff.




This mentality doesn't provide a solution to anything. The kids are already here, you can't put them back.

"Daycare is your own responsibility." This coming from an obviously childless young male who has absolutely no idea what daycare costs are (it is around $1,000 a month for a cheap one, by the way, up to $4,000 a month for a more expensive, round-the-clock one). That's the cost of rent. How exactly is somebody supposed to work and have children?

Or are you suggesting that only people who make $7,000 a month per month or more should be designated to have 1 child?


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23459603 - 07/20/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The kids are already here, you can't put them back.




You can cook and eat them.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #23459670 - 07/20/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Daycare is your own responsibility, have grandma watch your kids while your at work.





Well no shit it's your responsibility. But having grandma to help is a luxury and not everyone has family to help.

Child care costs out here are fucking ridonkulous. Like Crystal is saying, 1000 a month is about the baseline... and that's for like HALF days at some shitty place, where the kid has to leave at like 1pm. You want full time daycare where you can actually go to work..  its usually about 2k-3k a month.

My girl's family all live in Japan mine all live on the other side of the country so we have no help.

Her brother and his wife who live in Japan both work.. and they pay for full time daycare.... 350 a month.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Shroomism]
    #23459678 - 07/20/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Daycare is your own responsibility, have grandma watch your kids while your at work.





Well no shit it's your responsibility. But having grandma to help is a luxury and not everyone has family to help.

Child care costs out here are fucking ridonkulous. Like Crystal is saying, 1000 a month is about the baseline... and that's for like HALF days at some shitty place, where the kid has to leave at like 1pm. You want full time daycare where you can actually go to work..  its usually about 2k-3k a month.

My girl's family all live in Japan mine all live on the other side of the country so we have no help.

Her brother and his wife who live in Japan both work.. and they pay for full time daycare.... 350 a month.




Yes, that's a tidbit that I forgot to mention, that the $1,000 daycares are usually only for half-days, not even full days, and you have to pick your kid up in the early afternoon.

$350 a month sounds more reasonable, paying double the cost of your mortgage for daycare is pretty ridiculous. Shouldn't daycare theoretically be CHEAPER than hiring a nanny, considering a bunch of parents are paying to drop off their kids at daycare at the same time?


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23459771 - 07/20/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Shouldn't daycare theoretically be CHEAPER than hiring a nanny, considering a bunch of parents are paying to drop off their kids at daycare at the same time?




No. Daycare should cost what the providers wish to charge.

Can't afford it? Don't have kids.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Shroomism]
    #23460260 - 07/20/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If you want a solution, start a daycare center with affordable rates.

Hiring strangers to watch ones kid shouldn't be option A in the first place.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23460675 - 07/20/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't read the thread, but I have a question I want answered:

In a concise manner, how is BLM racist?


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #23460716 - 07/20/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

they are somewhat promoting black power.  there would be a shit storm if there was a WLM(white lives matter) movement :pipesmoke:

besides, black people never do anything wrong do they?  they are all law abiding citizens.  :lol:


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Crystal G]
    #23460737 - 07/20/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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stop making up bullshit




I am not, you have to understand there's many different types of banking and finance, there's mortgage banking, there's insurance and annuity sales, there's foreclosure advisement. These fields of finance don't make nearly as much as investment or hedge fund bankers. Those that actually do pay a flat hourly salary as opposed to commission, might pay $15 an hour with decent enough experience.

Just as being a bank teller is still technically "finance," yet you make $12 an hour or so.





oh shit, I had no clue I was so fucking stupid


how long will you stay at a job where you make less than $2000/mo working 70
hours per week? at straight time that less than minimum wage, about $7/hr and
I've never known anyone in any area of finance that made so little and worked
so much, not ever. not even on straight commission, would you like to know why?

because they get sacked if they arent generating revenue

you make shit up, you try and pass it off as legit


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: koods] * 2
    #23460756 - 07/20/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Black Lives Matter is about police violence.





black lives matters is about pushing a false, racist narrative that blacks are
unfairly targeted and killed by police. it's not about police violence or they'd
be addressing the issue that whites are shot twice as often with police encounters
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Crystal G]
    #23460793 - 07/20/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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This mentality doesn't provide a solution to anything. The kids are already here, you can't put them back.






wasnt it you that was so adamant that contraceptives be covered under obamacare

it's better not to have 6 kids when you live in housing and are eating on food stamps


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23460844 - 07/20/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

maybe blacks on welfare should receive a tax break or be paid for having abortions?  then them's can have quick easy money.


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: enlightened seed]
    #23460851 - 07/20/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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maybe blacks on welfare should receive a tax break or be paid for having abortions?  then them's can have quick easy money.





they do get tax breaks if they work, in fact they get more than they paid in,
a lot more, the system is set to incentivize having kids, $2500 per future
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23460868 - 07/20/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

yeah.  i think i should probably keep my comments to myself on this subject :drag:


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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23460900 - 07/20/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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This mentality doesn't provide a solution to anything. The kids are already here, you can't put them back.





wasnt it you that was so adamant that contraceptives be covered under obamacare

it's better not to have 6 kids when you live in housing and are eating on food stamps




Some families use neither of those benefits, but they still use subsidized healthcare or daycare.


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