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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
#23451176 - 07/17/16 08:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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MrBlueYoMind said: You're response summed up: It is okay to support genocidal movements because the justice system is harsher on black criminals.
No. I didn't read beyond that sentence and I won't waste my time. You are clearly beyond help.
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23451178 - 07/17/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Cops are convicted of excessive force and brutality all the time, but it doesn't help when the force is found to be justified, when the fucking president has already proclaimed the cops in the wrong, blamed it on racism, and praised the efforts of BLM. THAT is what has led to these cop killings, cops have been roughing up hoods for decades, only now, that they know they have the president on their side, are they emboldened and encouraged to react idiotically
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23451181 - 07/17/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: Cops are convicted of excessive force and brutality all the time, but it doesn't help when the force is found to be justified, when the fucking president has already proclaimed the cops in the wrong, blamed it on racism, and praised the efforts of BLM. THAT is what has led to these cop killings, cops have been roughing up hoods for decades, only now, that they know they have the president on their side, are they emboldened and encouraged to react idiotically
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"I condemn, in the strongest sense of the word, the attack on law enforcement in Baton Rouge. For the second time in two weeks, police officers who put their lives on the line for ours every day were doing their job when they were killed in a cowardly and reprehensible assault. These are attacks on public servants, on the rule of law, and on civilized society, and they have to stop.
"I’ve offered my full support, and the full support of the federal government, to Governor Edwards, Mayor Holden, the Sheriff’s Office, and the Baton Rouge Police Department. And make no mistake – justice will be done.
"We may not yet know the motives for this attack, but I want to be clear: there is no justification for violence against law enforcement. None. These attacks are the work of cowards who speak for no one. They right no wrongs. They advance no causes. The officers in Baton Rouge; the officers in Dallas – they were our fellow Americans, part of our community, part of our country, with people who loved and needed them, and who need us now – all of us – to be at our best.
-President Obama, TODAY
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: FlyOnTheWall] 1
#23451187 - 07/17/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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qman said: Yeah, it's the cops fault. So why didn't Obama fix it? Why didn't he change the laws?
Stop blaming cops, did Obama ever want to change the existing laws, what about Hill?
We can thank a Republican led congress for that.
Come on dude, Obama never said shit about the drug laws and police tactics, you have to understand this isn't R or D, Obama is a puppet.
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: FlyOnTheWall] 1
#23451191 - 07/17/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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He condemns the attack, the violence, because he has to, but it's with a wink and a nod
Notice he NEVER condemns the hateful rhetoric of BLM?
"What do we want?" "Dead cops!" "When do we want it?" "Now!"
He even invited these lunatics to the White House
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: qman]
#23451192 - 07/17/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Come on dude, Obama never said shit about the drug laws and police tactics, you have to understand this isn't R or D, Obama is a puppet. 
Honestly, whether or not that is true doesn't matter. If he did, the Republicans would shut it down.
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#23451194 - 07/17/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: He condemns the attack, the violence, because he has to, but it's with a wink and a nod
Notice he NEVER condemns the hateful rhetoric of BLM?
"What do we want?" "Dead cops!" "When do we want it?" "Now!"
He even invited these lunatics to the White House
Probably because he is smart enough to realize that it is high time a group made the police feel a little less safe.
If the cops wanted people to be on their side, they should've played nicer.
edit: I don't honestly think that is what Obama thinks, that is kinda what I think, though.
Police have disrespected the people of this country for too long, and people are fed the fuck up with their bullshit.
Maybe they need to try a little harder.
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: koods] 1
#23451195 - 07/17/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: You seriously can't see all of this is a reaction to police violence? People are fed up with the intransigence and arrogance of law enforcement. They see no accountability for wrong doing. Cops behave in ways that would get any other person fired from their job or prosecuted. Cops need to start respecting the citizens who pay their salaries, and not demand that everyone respect them simply because of who they are. You have to earn respect. We are not their servants, they are our servants. They need to be accountable to us, not themselves.
Really, so what are the solutions? Less cops? New cops? New policing tactics? New laws?
Stop blaming the fucking cops, your boys own them!
The vast majority of the population are just fine with the cops today, why is that?
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: qman]
#23451197 - 07/17/16 09:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The vast majority of the population are just fine with the cops today, why is that?
because most people are stupid.
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: FlyOnTheWall] 2
#23451200 - 07/17/16 09:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you for having the courage to admit Obama supports BLM and their war on cops
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: FlyOnTheWall] 2
#23451201 - 07/17/16 09:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: He condemns the attack, the violence, because he has to, but it's with a wink and a nod
Notice he NEVER condemns the hateful rhetoric of BLM?
"What do we want?" "Dead cops!" "When do we want it?" "Now!"
He even invited these lunatics to the White House
Probably because he is smart enough to realize that it is high time a group made the police feel a little less safe.
If the cops wanted people to be on their side, they should've played nicer.
The people are on the cops side, the anti-cop or BLM movement can't win, the backlash will not be pretty.
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
#23451203 - 07/17/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The vast majority of the population are just fine with the cops today, why is that?
because most people are stupid.
Or maybe you're not in touch with reality? They don't support thugs like Michael Brown, why do you?
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
#23451204 - 07/17/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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why doesnt the criminal culture need to change? should we be telling people that then need to resist cops at every step 'because they have rights' because that's the mentality that has people getting killed, we all know that the cop is either taking you in or he's going to beat you and take you in, the way always depends on how the arrestee decides to act. it would seem liberals want to inform these people that they need to assert their rights with force in the streets
Criminals are not public servants, cops are. The people get to dictate how their public servants should behave. Public servants should be accountable to the people and their elected representatives.
As for rights, if you don't assert them, then they aren't really worth a damn are they? Cops bend the rules all the time. Stop and frisk is clearly outside the bounds of the constitution, but somehow it still happens.
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: qman]
#23451205 - 07/17/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have a feeling something is gonna happen in Cleveland, BLM knows how much Trump supports cops, Ohio is an open carry state, Lots could happen
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: qman]
#23451209 - 07/17/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: You seriously can't see all of this is a reaction to police violence? People are fed up with the intransigence and arrogance of law enforcement. They see no accountability for wrong doing. Cops behave in ways that would get any other person fired from their job or prosecuted. Cops need to start respecting the citizens who pay their salaries, and not demand that everyone respect them simply because of who they are. You have to earn respect. We are not their servants, they are our servants. They need to be accountable to us, not themselves.
Really, so what are the solutions? Less cops? New cops? New policing tactics? New laws?
Stop blaming the fucking cops, your boys own them!
The vast majority of the population are just fine with the cops today, why is that?
Why don't you read Obama's task force report that I posted.
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: koods]
#23451213 - 07/17/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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why doesnt the criminal culture need to change? should we be telling people that then need to resist cops at every step 'because they have rights' because that's the mentality that has people getting killed, we all know that the cop is either taking you in or he's going to beat you and take you in, the way always depends on how the arrestee decides to act. it would seem liberals want to inform these people that they need to assert their rights with force in the streets
Criminals are not public servants, cops are. The people get to dictate how their public servants should behave. Public servants should be accountable to the people and their elected representatives.
As for rights, if you don't assert them, then they aren't really worth a damn are they? Cops bend the rules all the time. Stop and frisk is clearly outside the bounds of the constitution, but somehow it still happens.
Yet, no one but criminals are concerned about it. Who supports the laws and tactics? The voters and politicians!!!
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: qman]
#23451224 - 07/17/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: He condemns the attack, the violence, because he has to, but it's with a wink and a nod
Notice he NEVER condemns the hateful rhetoric of BLM?
"What do we want?" "Dead cops!" "When do we want it?" "Now!"
He even invited these lunatics to the White House
Probably because he is smart enough to realize that it is high time a group made the police feel a little less safe.
If the cops wanted people to be on their side, they should've played nicer.
The people are on the cops side, the anti-cop or BLM movement can't win, the backlash will not be pretty. 
The backlash. Listen to yourself. The backlash on who? Are you suggesting the police will squash dissent? They're gonna roundup agitators?
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: qman]
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: koods]
#23451233 - 07/17/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The backlash. Listen to yourself. The backlash on who? Are you suggesting the police will squash dissent? They're gonna roundup agitators?
LOL, right?
Are you a cop qman? What the fuck is wrong with you?
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: qman] 1
#23451236 - 07/17/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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why doesnt the criminal culture need to change? should we be telling people that then need to resist cops at every step 'because they have rights' because that's the mentality that has people getting killed, we all know that the cop is either taking you in or he's going to beat you and take you in, the way always depends on how the arrestee decides to act. it would seem liberals want to inform these people that they need to assert their rights with force in the streets
Criminals are not public servants, cops are. The people get to dictate how their public servants should behave. Public servants should be accountable to the people and their elected representatives.
As for rights, if you don't assert them, then they aren't really worth a damn are they? Cops bend the rules all the time. Stop and frisk is clearly outside the bounds of the constitution, but somehow it still happens.
Yet, no one but criminals are concerned about it. Who supports the laws and tactics? The voters and politicians!!!
The way you think is really disturbing. You're suggesting that someone who doesn't approve of the tactics used now are branded as criminals. No dissent allowed.
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