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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
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FlyOnTheWall said: If cops want to play hero, there are plenty of other more dangerous jobs they can do that don't involve imprisoning non-violent drug offenders.
They can refer to the list I posted earlier: 1 Logging workers 2 Fishers and related fishing workers 3 Aircraft pilots and flight engineers 4 Roofers 5 Refuse and recyclable material collectors 6 Farmers, ranchers, and other agricultural managers 7 Structural iron and steel workers 8 Driver/sales workers and truck drivers 9 Electrical power-line installers and repairers 10 Taxi drivers and chauffeurs
Logging workers are the number one heroes here i guess
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Plain] 1
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No, police are essential to society, but that doesn't mean we can't be critical of them/the justice system.
What I am suggesting is that all cops should do the right thing, and at the VERY LEAST, refuse to enforce drug laws for simple possession.
Yes, of course they didn't make those laws, but if there was nobody to enforce them, this wouldn't be an issue. If a majority of officers were good people like so many claim, I think this would have already happened. If they stood up and did the right thing, the legislators would have no choice but to change the laws.
If they did that, I would be the biggest fan of the police in the country. I would respect them, I would be grateful for them, I would appreciate them, if they came into my place of work I would give them special treatment, etc.
If a majority of cops stood up and said "This isn't right, I'm not going to arrest people for possession of drugs anymore", people would listen to them. I have no idea why, but for some reason people think cops know stuff. People trust the police.
But that is not what cops do. There is one group I have heard of "Law Enforcement Against Prohibition" but that is not enough. Cops need to be doing more to stop the destruction of our freedoms.
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
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I understand what you are saying but all those cops who would refuse to arrest people for minor drug offenses they would be fired and replaced with some guy who thinks weed is the devils lettuce.
There are many stories ive heard where people are caught with weed and cops let them go or just take it.
When they are called by some old hag saying some kids are smoking weed by her house the cop HAS to do something or he will be fired.
I know, i know, he shouldnt be a cop then but maybe he actually wants to protect people from actual bad guys
Move to a legal state if its that upsetting to you. Those states are proof that it doesnt start with law enforcement its starts with US
WE have to put down the bong get off our asses and do something about it
Yknow
If you wanna
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Plain]
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Plain] 1
#23446028 - 07/16/16 06:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I know they aren't really all bad, but unfortunately, that doesn't change the fact that I can't trust any of them.
And it's cute they want to protect me so badly, that they don't just protect me from bad guys, they even "protect" me from weed, but I never asked them to do that.
It is as simple as that. Having good intentions is not good enough.
Many of the worst atrocities in human history were committed by people who had the best of intentions.
I can't help where I was born. I never got to vote on the Controlled Substance Act of 1970. Hell, a majority of the people alive today weren't even born when those laws were passed.
Like I said earlier, at this point, the cops pose a much more significant threat to my happiness than "the bad guys" do. How am I supposed to pretend like they are on my side when they clearly are not?
Terrorist attacks are rare. Getting locked up or shot by the police is not unusual at all.
I already live in California and I buy my hash legally. I was in another state when I got busted. Such a basic human right should not be limited to the west coast of the US, though.
I want to be proud of the country I live in, how am I supposed to be proud when we lock up more people than anywhere else in the world? And for such silly shit...
Freedom. I'm sure it was fun while it lasted.
edit: And yes, hopefully it isn't too late to change the laws. The private prison lobby certainly isn't going to make it easy, though.
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
#23446062 - 07/16/16 06:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Freedom in America was built on the idea that you have the right to say and do as you please but if i dont like you i can shoot you dead and no one will do anything about it except maybe your family might shoot me dead.
Atleast thats what ive been told by a few different people also im paraphrasing and exagerating but not by much
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/10/what_did_the_founders_mean_by_due_process_of_law.html
Read this article it might be interesting to you
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: FlyOnTheWall] 1
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FlyOnTheWall said: No, police are essential to society, but that doesn't mean we can't be critical of them/the justice system.
What I am suggesting is that all cops should do the right thing, and at the VERY LEAST, refuse to enforce drug laws for simple possession.
Yes, of course they didn't make those laws, but if there was nobody to enforce them, this wouldn't be an issue. If a majority of officers were good people like so many claim, I think this would have already happened. If they stood up and did the right thing, the legislators would have no choice but to change the laws.
If they did that, I would be the biggest fan of the police in the country. I would respect them, I would be grateful for them, I would appreciate them, if they came into my place of work I would give them special treatment, etc.
If a majority of cops stood up and said "This isn't right, I'm not going to arrest people for possession of drugs anymore", people would listen to them. I have no idea why, but for some reason people think cops know stuff. People trust the police.
But that is not what cops do. There is one group I have heard of "Law Enforcement Against Prohibition" but that is not enough. Cops need to be doing more to stop the destruction of our freedoms.
You really need to grow up, cops enforce the laws, they don't make them. Do you really expect law enforcement to screen every law that they think might be unjust and then decide to not enforce it?
Do you have the same sentiment about judges? What about your Representatives? What about the voters?
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: qman]
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In my experience (full disclosure im a white suburban male), every time ive been caught with weed ive been let go. Most cops dont really give a shit but that doesnt mean they can just choose to ignore the laws they are sworn to uphold.
Either way, now that white suburban kids are getting hooked on heroin, the drug war will take a much more therapeutic approach, its just gonna take some time.
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
#23446448 - 07/16/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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FlyOnTheWall said: I never got to vote on the Controlled Substance Act of 1970.
As Americans don't get to vote on their laws... only the House and Senate did.
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Crystal G]
#23446839 - 07/16/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: I know about genetics, your earlier claims are fucking retarded though and here you are once again trying to change up
You were the one asking about whether your son's dairy-consuming body would pass on to his grandkids, to which I responded I don't know, that would depend on many factors
you're the one that made the claim that it would prior to me asking that question of you
or did you forget these retarded claims you made right after saying shit about pseudoscience
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Absolutely, it makes a huge difference. My sister grew up drinking a gallon of milk a day, while I was lactose intolerant so I never consumed dairy. She grew to be 5'10", with wide hips and very large breasts, she is what I would call "curvy" and "thick," while I am of average height, with a more "typical" lean, Asian build.
Bovine growth hormone is a real thing that factors in to size and bone density. They say a large reason kids go through premature puberty is based on whether they are exposed to dairy or not.
Ever heard of epigenetics? You can actually change your genetics based on environmental factors. Now that my sister has a large frame, despite the fact that she largely acquired it from particular eating habits, there's now a likely chance that her kids will have her body.
That is the reason the human species has been getting taller and taller over the centuries by the way, is because things change bit by bit generation from generation at a time.
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Prisoner#1 said: what about race based medicine? how about the differences in bone structure between races, are these things also false? this isnt the 1800s, we arent working with phrenology, we're talking actual science
also in the news: http://www.ajc.com/news/news/breaking-news/atlanta-cop-who-shot-unarmed-black-man-charged-wit/nry7G/
One could argue that the differences in bone structure stems from different eating habits, many cultures only eat grain and no dairy, others are heavy on dairy and red meat, which will result in physiological changes that will last for generations.
A large part of the reasons blacks in America have denser bones and are more muscular is due to slave breeding; super strong slaves were bred with other strong slaves to essentially breed "super slaves." Hence why black Americans today tend to excel in sports, and will be so much larger and have denser bones than their African relatives.
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404 said: Racist* not raciest.
Yes specialpeopleclub will you someday please discover that "raciest" is an entirely different word from "racist".
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said: I know about genetics, your earlier claims are fucking retarded though and here you are once again trying to change up
You were the one asking about whether your son's dairy-consuming body would pass on to his grandkids, to which I responded I don't know, that would depend on many factors
you're the one that made the claim that it would prior to me asking that question of you
or did you forget these retarded claims you made right after saying shit about pseudoscience
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Absolutely, it makes a huge difference. My sister grew up drinking a gallon of milk a day, while I was lactose intolerant so I never consumed dairy. She grew to be 5'10", with wide hips and very large breasts, she is what I would call "curvy" and "thick," while I am of average height, with a more "typical" lean, Asian build.
Bovine growth hormone is a real thing that factors in to size and bone density. They say a large reason kids go through premature puberty is based on whether they are exposed to dairy or not.
Ever heard of epigenetics? You can actually change your genetics based on environmental factors. Now that my sister has a large frame, despite the fact that she largely acquired it from particular eating habits, there's now a likely chance that her kids will have her body.
That is the reason the human species has been getting taller and taller over the centuries by the way, is because things change bit by bit generation from generation at a time.
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Prisoner#1 said: what about race based medicine? how about the differences in bone structure between races, are these things also false? this isnt the 1800s, we arent working with phrenology, we're talking actual science
also in the news: http://www.ajc.com/news/news/breaking-news/atlanta-cop-who-shot-unarmed-black-man-charged-wit/nry7G/
One could argue that the differences in bone structure stems from different eating habits, many cultures only eat grain and no dairy, others are heavy on dairy and red meat, which will result in physiological changes that will last for generations.
A large part of the reasons blacks in America have denser bones and are more muscular is due to slave breeding; super strong slaves were bred with other strong slaves to essentially breed "super slaves." Hence why black Americans today tend to excel in sports, and will be so much larger and have denser bones than their African relatives.
Amazing how you don't believe in this, then explain why African Americans look so different from their African relatives?
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Crystal G]
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Crystal G said: Amazing how you don't believe in this, then explain why African Americans look so different from their African relatives?
I dont believe in what?
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qman said: Do you have the same sentiment about judges? What about your Representatives? What about the voters?
Of course I have the same sentiments about judges, representatives, district attorneys, the attorney general, and every single other person who is willing to be a part of that system that imprisons non-violent drug offenders.
I'm not sure what voters you are talking about, though. Do you mean the people who voted for Richard Nixon and Reagan? They are the main people who made the drug war what it is today.
But yeah, it's all my problem, isn't it? I just probably just need to grow up, right?
Why should it bother me that my country imprisons way more people than any other country on Earth, and many of them for non-violent drug offenses? Yeah, that's just such a totally childish thing to care about.
Sorry, but I don't respect cops or anybody else that is a part of our atrocious "justice" system. Why would I appreciate people who want to put me in jail for doing nothing besides minding my own business?
I don't have to act like I respect them, and nobody has presented me with a single legitimate reason why I should yet.
IMO, the cops are the ones that need to grow up.
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Do you really expect law enforcement to screen every law that they think might be unjust and then decide to not enforce it?
Uhhh...yeah. Of course I do. These aren't decisions to be taken lightly. If cops aren't ready to accept responsibility for other people's lives, they need to quit their job and flip burgers or something.

What's the big deal, right? I just need to grow up and stop complaining. Fuck all the innocent people. Lol, what a fool...
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#23448191 - 07/16/16 10:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm curious how well you would do without the police to protect you. You been working out? Got a gun and know how to use it?
Having been around plenty of gangs, I know well how safe our cities would be without the police to enforce our very luxurious peace. You know there are people who make it their job to find you and rob you? Extort you? Kidnap and ransom you?
Guess what keeps them at bay.
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
#23448193 - 07/16/16 10:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The prison population of the US is larger than the populations of the states of Wyoming, Alaska, and North Dakota COMBINED.
But yeah, you guys are right. I should probably just stop complaining. I am being super childish for caring.
And I wouldn't want to accidentally hurt a cop's feelwings or something, OMG, I would just feel awful.
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said: I'm curious how well you would do without the police to protect you. You been working out? Got a gun and know how to use it?
Having been around plenty of gangs, I know well how safe our cities would be without the police to enforce our very luxurious peace. You know there are people who make it their job to find you and rob you? Extort you? Kidnap and ransom you?
Guess what keeps them at bay.

I don't want to go into specifics, but where I live, if I called the cops, they probably wouldn't do shit.
Anytime people I know have been robbed, had their cars broken into, etc., the cops have been absolutely zero help.
I even know a girl who let a homeless person in her car (long story, and very stupid move on her part), and the guy stole her car, with her in it, and wouldn't let her get away. She was in the car, FUCKING TEXTING THE COPS where she was asking for help, and they said there was nothing they could do, because "technically, it wasn't an abduction" because she had orginally let him in the car int he first place.
Lol, the cops haven't really ever been there for me, so I have no expectations from them. I guess if I had had a good experience with them at some point it would change my mind, but I never have.
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
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Okay, okay, I probably went a little too far. I DO appreciate some of the things cops do.
Can you imagine how safe we would be if they weren't wasting resources going after non-violent drug offenders, though?
We would be living in a utopia...
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Re: #Blacklivesmatter is more racist than I thought [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
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Repertoire89 said: I'm curious how well you would do without the police to protect you. You been working out? Got a gun and know how to use it?
Having been around plenty of gangs, I know well how safe our cities would be without the police to enforce our very luxurious peace. You know there are people who make it their job to find you and rob you? Extort you? Kidnap and ransom you?
Guess what keeps them at bay.

I don't want to go into specifics, but where I live, if I called the cops, they probably wouldn't do shit.
Anytime people I know have been robbed, had their cars broken into, etc., the cops have been absolutely zero help.
I even know a girl who let a homeless person in her car (long story, and very stupid move on her part), and the guy stole her car, with her in it, and wouldn't let her get away. She was in the car, FUCKING TEXTING THE COPS where she was asking for help, and they said there was nothing they could do, because "technically, it wasn't an abduction" because she had orginally let him in the car int he first place.
Lol, the cops haven't really ever been there for me, so I have no expectations from them. I guess if I had had a good experience with them at some point it would change my mind, but I never have.
What ended up happening to your friend..?
I hope she is okay, dont leave us hangin like that finish the damn story
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