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Hugh Jorgan
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Re: Buddies 2nd attempt P.E. Monotub -1st flush - 40+ Pins! [Re: ihatethis]
#23434959 - 07/12/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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follow the teks and you will see just how easy it can be. If you setup your mono tub properly and dial it in its a set it and forget it setup. When the time is right you can loosen the top polyfill to initiate pinning although many just stuff the bottom holes tight and the top lose at spawning and let nature do the rest. As for a substrate I reccomend CVG or 50/50 horse manure/straw (Pasteurized of course). I am in the northeast and properly dialed in tubs work great year round!
Good Luck.

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ihatethis
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Re: Buddies 2nd attempt P.E. Monotub -1st flush - 40+ Pins! [Re: Hugh Jorgan]
#23437530 - 07/13/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Guys, thanks again for the thoughts. I rely on your input and you have helped out more than you know. I have read the teks but have been out of the game since 2011 and am a bit rusty in helping my friend.
Here are the takeaways (let me know if I missed anything):
1. Use Coir as substrate for dry regions as it retains moisture better
2. Don't mist monotubs *at all* - only dunk for 24 hours after each flush. If the monotub is too moist, it will cause contamination quicker - some recommend even wiping down the sides so that there are no droplets that make it to the substrate.
3. FAE is not recommended for monotubs because if you have the 4 holes on bottom, 2 holes on top, the FAE will take care of itself.
4. Play around with polyfill thickness to "dial in" my specific tub humidity level. I'm guessing I may need to buy another humidity gauge? My old one was thrown away years ago.
Here is an updated pic from yesterday:

My thoughts as to why we have three "big boys" and a bunch of small ones is that we drowned the substrate in water and it prevented FAE. Did I get that right?
Edited by ihatethis (07/13/16 10:21 AM)
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dankington
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Re: Buddies 2nd attempt P.E. Monotub -1st flush - 40+ Pins! [Re: ihatethis]
#23437542 - 07/13/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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where did you get all this from? fanning is no good, but FAE is what you want. I mist my tubs. I never wipe the sides unless I'm hosing it down for another run. You don't need a humidity gauge, just look.
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Re: Buddies 2nd attempt P.E. Monotub -1st flush - 40+ Pins! [Re: ihatethis]
#23437567 - 07/13/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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1. Most substrates are fine. Coir has quite a few benefits though. As long as there isn't mad FAE, and you properly hydrated the sub, the water will mainly just get used by mushroom growth.
2. Due to #1, you can weigh your wet shrooms minus dried weight and add that much water back to the substrate.
3. Manual FAE isn't required if the flow is correct. Right at pinning, extra FAE can possibly help. Mushroom caps shouldn't be constantly wet. Bacteria like that
4. Mainly for airflow. Humidity only matters at the casing layer. Air humidity is moot. Devices can just send you the wrong direction or create unnecessary stress 4u
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ihatethis
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Re: Buddies 2nd attempt P.E. Monotub -1st flush - 40+ Pins! [Re: Snazz]
#23438207 - 07/13/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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We just harvested this first flush but didn't take a pic. We drained the excess water and taped up 2 of the 4 top holes in our bin for the next time.
*We got 101 wet grams*
There are two pins that just started, hopefully the second flush is already on its way.
We also just prepped 20 lbs of WBS and are soaking that for 24 hours for the PC tomorrow. Also tomorrow, the B+ spores come in. Coir comes in Friday. Since these teks are new for both me and my buddy, we are using the following teks:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17252080 https://www.shroomery.org/9030/Doc34-s-Wild-Bird-Seed-Tek https://www.shroomery.org/10858/How-to-do-Coir
Comments requested!
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: Buddies 2nd attempt P.E. Monotub -1st flush - 40+ Pins! [Re: ihatethis]
#23442801 - 07/15/16 02:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hugh Jorgan
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Re: Buddies 2nd attempt P.E. Monotub -1st flush - 40+ Pins! [Re: ihatethis]
#23474632 - 07/25/16 07:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You should be getting WAY more than that! Just to give you some reference. I just harvested a mono of Texas Orange Cap.
Spores > Agar, Agar > Grain, Grain > Grain, Spawned to 50/50 manure/straw. Got 1000 Grams wet. Set up those monos right and you almost cant go wrong.
Follow the teks and good luck.
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Edited by Hugh Jorgan (07/25/16 07:16 AM)
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Inocuole
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Re: Buddies 2nd attempt P.E. Monotub -1st flush - 40+ Pins! [Re: Hugh Jorgan]
#23475346 - 07/25/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hugh Jorgan
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Re: Buddies 2nd attempt P.E. Monotub -1st flush - 40+ Pins! [Re: ihatethis]
#23478841 - 07/26/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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20Lbs of wild bird seed seems a bit much for a hobbyist. Going into business?
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: Buddies 2nd attempt P.E. Monotub -1st flush - 40+ Pins! [Re: Hugh Jorgan]
#23478892 - 07/26/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have a couple of sacks of oats just hanging around. Each sack is 20kg. You'd think they will last forever, they do last a while but you'd be surprised how fast you go through a sack, especially with multiple monos going at the same time.
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Inocuole
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Re: Buddies 2nd attempt P.E. Monotub -1st flush - 40+ Pins! [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23478997 - 07/26/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol @ 20 lbs being too much... I usually get 50lb sacks of grain.
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: Buddies 2nd attempt P.E. Monotub -1st flush - 40+ Pins! [Re: Inocuole]
#23481686 - 07/27/16 08:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I need to reduce the grains I have on hand, summer is prime time for insects. I have the sacks stored well but you can never be too careful. We get this brown/black insect that will tunnel through grains and eat them from the inside. They can ruin a sack of grains pretty fast.
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Hugh Jorgan
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Re: Buddies 2nd attempt P.E. Monotub -1st flush - 40+ Pins! [Re: Inocuole]
#23481713 - 07/27/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was commenting on the fact that he said he prepped 20Lbs of grain. thats four or more monos.
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ihatethis
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Re: Buddies 2nd attempt P.E. Monotub -1st flush - 40+ Pins! [Re: Hugh Jorgan]
#23484151 - 07/27/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just checked this. Been working hard on a new project.
Yea 20 lbs ended up being way too much WBS. We used every jar that we had and still had more. I had to give it to the birds, and it sprouted a ton of grass where I threw the leftovers!
We were hoping for at least 2 good size monos and 2 small ones. Things have changed - my buddy wanted out, and has handed it back now I am starting a new project with another friend. We should have mostly Thailand Koh Samui Super Strain (That's a mouthful) and some B+.
Check out this same forum in a couple of days and I'll have some pics of the jars I made.
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Re: Buddies 2nd attempt P.E. Monotub -1st flush - 40+ Pins! [Re: ihatethis]
#23484161 - 07/27/16 11:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You paid for WBS... and then threw the extra away? Are you growing all of one time, ever? The fuck..
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Hugh Jorgan
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Re: Buddies 2nd attempt P.E. Monotub -1st flush - 40+ Pins! [Re: ihatethis]
#23485050 - 07/28/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Good Luck. Those KSSS are some funky fruits and B+ can pump out some real monsters. Have fun. I try not to make up too much spawn at once. I prefer to make several tubs up over a few day cycle so there is always something going on. I tend to always want to be poking around in them so once they are going strong Im harvesting or prepping or spawning or inoculating plates. Always keeping busy. I guess a little OCD. (Obsessive Cubensis Disorder)
Have fun
 1005G Texas Orange Cap Harvested 2 days ago
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ihatethis
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Re: Buddies 2nd attempt P.E. Monotub -1st flush - 40+ Pins! [Re: Hugh Jorgan]
#23503765 - 08/02/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The extra I threw away was already soaked and cooked. It would have sprouted and been bad anyway.
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