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Guesses at strength of great WOW?
    #23428008 - 07/09/16 11:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

A lot of us have come across white on white blotter that we think is really good.  Solid doses, one hit quit, that kind of thing. I finally came across some WOW blotter that was probably the best blotter I've had and fits those descriptions. Full psychedelic experience at one dose.  I've taken it once and probably have another ten hits. Does anyone want to wager a guess as to what kind of mics are on those doses?  I'm weighing taking two of them next weekend at a concert and am curious as to your thoughts.  Concerts are, btw, pretty much the only place I trip anymore, so the setting isn't really part of the question.


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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: spiny] * 2
    #23428077 - 07/09/16 11:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Prob 100 to 150mics leaning toward 100 maaaybe 120ish


100mics is stronger than most think


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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: spiny]
    #23428089 - 07/09/16 11:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

No point guessing. If it works it works. I am a bit crazy curious so if I had spares I would test it with Erlich's reagent to make sure what it is. Then if it qualitatively turns out to be LSD I would titrate it with a extremely dilute(.000001M) NaCl or HCl solution under blacklight until it stops glowing. Both of these would destroy the LSD and the latter requires access to high-precision glassware.


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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: hampiri] * 1
    #23428110 - 07/10/16 12:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If you really want to know just cut up the blotter snd take very small amounts threshold effects from lsd are about 20mics


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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: LuckeyMA] * 3
    #23428628 - 07/10/16 08:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'd say 100ug (based on WoW I've had marketed as 100ug blowing higher 'rated'  non-WoW doses out the water)

People underestimate 100ug because most tabs are dosed lower than reported.


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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #23428655 - 07/10/16 08:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah i think 100ug is the go to for marketing i bet most street lsd is like 75 to 100 mics but i wouldnt doubt there is 100 plus mic blotters going around but probably not too common i think people underestimate the power of lsd micrograms


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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #23428691 - 07/10/16 08:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah i think 100ug is the go to for marketing i bet most street lsd is like 75 to 100 mics but i wouldnt doubt there is 100 plus mic blotters going around but probably not too common i think people underestimate the power of lsd micrograms




I knew a (now former) producer who laid it at 100 ±10μg for general sale and 250 ±20μg for those he deemed "worthy".


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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: hampiri]
    #23428699 - 07/10/16 08:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah im not saying it doesnt exist but unless you have that gas chromatography mass spectrometry test done you will  never know the exact correct microgram dosage unless you laid it yourself


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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: LuckeyMA]
    #23428715 - 07/10/16 08:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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If you really want to know just cut up the blotter snd take very small amounts threshold effects from lsd are about 20mics




20ug is a very apparent dose, I even have minor visuals at times. But yeah most likely they are 100 or maybe a little more.


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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: spiny]
    #23429057 - 07/10/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

100ug for me is considerably powerful but it's not a breakthrough dose for me. I find LSD to be a threshold drug like how people describe DMT or even Ketamine.

I don't get the "breakthrough" the true hyperdimensional breakthrough until about 150 to 200ug.
250 will be sure to get me there though. Sub-break through doses for me on LSD are still very profound and mental but they are not amazing.
I would guess what you have is just 150 to 200ug.


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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: LuckeyMA]
    #23429060 - 07/10/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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If you really want to know just cut up the blotter snd take very small amounts threshold effects from lsd are about 20mics




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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23429090 - 07/10/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Back in 1969 I had some Orange Sunshine which was reportedly 300ug. Had a period of amnesia of approximately 3 hours and once I became "aware" again, did not know who or where I was. Didn't recognize my own father.  Grass was singing and waving as I attempted to walk on it. Last thing I remember was the branches of trees reaching down trying to capture me.

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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #23429216 - 07/10/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

So is WOW blotter just plain white paper? Ive had plenty of white blotter of varying strengths. Not sure what the dosages were at the time but they felt to be between 80 to the 200 range from my experience with multiple times eaten. tho it could of just been white blotter paper but not an official WOW blotter.


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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23429454 - 07/10/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I think a lot of people are unaware of how much high quality LSD is going around these days. There are still RC's going around these days but seriously, just this year specifically the acid market has just exploded and it's not hard to find for cheap. I wouldn't be surprised if the tabs you have are an honest 100ug. I have some right now and 1 really is all you need to get the full spectrum of effects. And yes, WoW= white crystal on white blotter.


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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: lawn_gnome]
    #23429832 - 07/10/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah these are probably the best single dose tabs I've ever had, and the thing that's nice is they seem so clean and almost gentle.  I picked them up from some majorly spun kid at HSMF last summer (can I say that?) unperfed, no lines, just white heavy paper. Definitely stronger than the "snowflake" tabs from the DNM that was sold as 120ug.


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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: spiny]
    #23430764 - 07/10/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm assuming the bomb WoW I've had in the past has been true 100-125 ug. I've known plenty of people that have had major misconceptions on what 100ug is supposed to feel like. Lots of weak shit used to flow through my city alongside the hidden gems.


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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: DabsAndTabs]
    #23430869 - 07/10/16 11:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Wow is lsd on white blotter paper.


Not def white crystal lsd on white blotter.


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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: LuckeyMA]
    #23431050 - 07/11/16 01:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: LuckeyMA]
    #23431524 - 07/11/16 08:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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If you really want to know just cut up the blotter snd take very small amounts threshold effects from lsd are about 20mics




Good idea :yesnod::thumbup:

My guess is 100 micros, the standard for a "good" hit. At 100 micros, you are at the threshold of the psychedelic experience, the very beginning of a true psychedelic LSD trip. And u get all the effects of LSDs true power in "mini" form if that makes sense.

But that micro dose idea is great, try that. 20 micros feels similar to a strong cup of coffee with a very slightly trippy headspace.


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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23432175 - 07/11/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Keep cutting it in half till you dont trip. So if its 100 mics, youw would get about 4 pieces (@25 each) that would be interesting.  I got a guy at my work interested in taking some lsd, he wants his first time to be at home alone in his room. Im scared to let him eat a full hit, i was telling him half a hit of mine would be perfect,but my other coworker is convincing him the whole tab is the way to go haha. Hope your tabs are nice and strong


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    #23433259 - 07/11/16 08:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Its funny I have only ever had WOW. I've never been disappointed from one hit... maybe once I needed a second hit.
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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: mushpunx]
    #23453212 - 07/18/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hey everyone – just thought y’all would be interested in a follow up.  I did go to String Cheese at Red Rocks this weekend (highly recommended) and went ahead and took that big ol’ strip of that strong WoW I had been contemplating. Probably 2.5 hits?  Here are some comments for future readers:

- The comeup was actually better/easier.  I had a few drinks prior to dosing, which helps me anxiety-wise, but I think the biggest thing is that there was no real comeup, it was like instantly being shot into space.  As soon as it hit me (about 15 minutes), I was tripping.  No looking back.  This sounds like it would be worse than a more gradual, prolonged comeup, but, at least in this case, it was way better.

- Really heavy trip.  We dosed at 6:15, show started probably around 7:45, and the whole first set I was gone… just gone.  The pieces started coming back together during the second set around maybe 10:00pm.

- During the meat of the trip, I was having trouble conversing, both understanding and stringing words together.  If I reeeeally paid attention, I could follow a conversation, but it was haaard.  Putting words together was also a struggle – majorly tongue-tied!

- I definitely hit the point where I was starting to lose a bit of myself.  It’s like my existence faded into the background a bit.  Certainly not ego death, but I felt almost like a stripped-down version of myself.  There was a point where I felt like I was gaining some insight into death or what death might be like.  Hard to put words to that.

- Some interesting “extra-dimensional” effects.  Closed-eye visuals largely left the realm of patterns and kaleidoscopes, and transitioned more to realistic visionary “dreamscapes”.  There was a point where, as best as I can explain it, I was rapidly “phasing” back and forth between consensus reality and these dreamscapes, even with eyes open.  When I’d open my eyes from a period of having them closed, the CEVs would persist for a while, everything morphing, twirling, waving, and melting.  Pretty amazing.  Somehow none of this was scary, but pretty damn intense. 

- I’ve complained in the past about the come-up feeling too strong, but then feeling like hours 4-8 are too weak.  Not in this case.  Some of the ego-loss and extra dimensional stuff did fade a bit by hour 4-6, but all the way through hour 10, I’d guess, I was tripping HARD. 

- It was a little alarming, but I never slept even for a minute.  I felt like my body was exhausted but my brain was absolutely wired.  We were lights off around 4am, but I just tossed and turned.  Light visuals persisted until the next afternoon, even, when we starting having some drinks and... ahem… took more doses for the next night’s show.  The second trip was really light with basically no visuals even though we took another pretty solid dose due to tolerance.  I did sleep quite well the second night, fortunately.

- All in all, I think my whole group overshot the mark a little bit, but I’m super happy I did.  It was definitely the experience I was looking for – a really impressive trip, an awesome show, and a great environment for a more substantial dose.  It was a hell of an adventure, which is probably my number one interest in these mind-expanding drugs!


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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: spiny]
    #23454789 - 07/19/16 12:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

nice!

Sounds like an awesome mind bender.

I would guess around 300 micrograms, with no tolerance to acid, to give a trip like that.

I had a two hit trip recently, and i know what u mean by the "confusion"/cant talk feeling.


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Re: Guesses at strength of great WOW? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23457759 - 07/19/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, definite mind bender.

I forgot a few of the funnier hallucinations - all throughout the concert, I kept smelling pizza and hotdogs.  I was like "am I at a baseball game or something?  Who's eating pizza at this concert?"  It was really dramatic.  After the concert I asked my friends if they were getting whiffs of bar food / stadium food all night... they looked at me like I was crazy. Total olfactory hallucination.

That, and closed eye visuals had sound - a streak of green (or whatever) would flash across my vision and I'd hear it go by - ZOOM! - like the flying cars in the Jetsons.


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