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How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions
#23427709 - 07/09/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Appearantly canary reed grass grows everywhere in Denver Colorado and I haven't tried any psychedelic yet except small amounts of shrooms and have been intrigued by ayahuasca and dmt for their spiritual implications. I am not sure what would be easier or better for my first trip to extract it and smoke it or make an analogue and drink it. Or even ganja I believe they call it. Or how long they last
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: Phinx6236]
#23427715 - 07/09/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think u gotta use like kemicals or sumthin
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: Eminence]
#23427730 - 07/09/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ive heard It takes so much weight in grass that its not practice to do at home- I also heard there is a chemical in it "gramine" or something that's no Buenos.
Id say you should try using Acacia bark instead
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: mushpunx] 1
#23427899 - 07/09/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Please stay away from phalaris especially if you are unexperienced in extraction and DMT in general.
Phalaris is poisonous and contains gramine which is a neurotoxin known to cause brain damage and death in sheep. I see tons of these posts in this forum and the ethno forum. People need to do some research before they hurt themselves or other people.
Gramine is an indole alkaloid, as is DMT. If you extract DMT, you also extract gramine. The two can be separated but it takes some chemistry know how. Please look towards a friendlier plant ally for your experience
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: natedawgnow]
#23428001 - 07/09/16 11:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Anything else easily obtainable in my area that I wouldn't have to order in
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: Phinx6236]
#23428022 - 07/09/16 11:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Phinx6236 said: Anything else easily obtainable in my area that I wouldn't have to order in
Very doubtful. Just order a little bark man its cheap.. legal etc
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: Phinx6236]
#23428112 - 07/10/16 12:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do you not live with someone who'd be cool with it or something? It really is cheap to order acacia or if Mimosa if you can find a good source. It's not like you're gonna need a big stockpile of DMT so a little of it goes a long way for most people at least
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: Phinx6236]
#23428148 - 07/10/16 12:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Phinx6236 said: Appearantly canary reed grass grows everywhere in Denver Colorado and I haven't tried any psychedelic yet except small amounts of shrooms and have been intrigued by ayahuasca and dmt for their spiritual implications. I am not sure what would be easier or better for my first trip to extract it and smoke it or make an analogue and drink it. Or even ganja I believe they call it. Or how long they last
do not drink unextracted dmt grasses, the alkaloids and tannins and other shit in there can really mess with your body. (this varies between plant species obviosly)
extractions should be cleaned with thin layer chromatography if the plant is not something like acacia, mimosa or p. virdis.
if you are looking to do a simple extract do the q2121 on mimosa, acacia, or virdis (make sure to defat if you use virdis)
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: dumbasswolf]
#23428155 - 07/10/16 12:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for the help guys is it better to smoke it or make a ayahuasca analog?
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: Eminence]
#23428156 - 07/10/16 12:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah man I have a wife and kids but I think I can make it work
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: Phinx6236]
#23428187 - 07/10/16 01:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Phinx6236 said: Thanks for the help guys is it better to smoke it or make a ayahuasca analog?
honestly I extract either way, smoking in the form of changa is great, but aya or pharma is great too (more trial and eroor with this route though.) dose your maoi about 50 min before dosing dmt for maximum potency.
you will go farther with oral in long run, but honestly smoking is best for begginers and is a lot less inconvenient than a 4-5 hour trip.
I atill cannot recommend an an aya analoug with anything besides the three plants I metionaed earlier though (unless you send samples of a brew to an analytical lab and share resulta on something like dmt nexus to make sure there is nothing too harmful. Although this is still probably not great for the body very often, so use unconventional plants infrequently.
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: Phinx6236]
#23428192 - 07/10/16 01:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I mean smoking it is like taking the 6+ hour trip of aya and condensing it into a few minutes when it comes to intensity I think. Ayahuasca is pretty awesome though but I've only done it a couple times a while back. I prefer changa over both aya and smoking the crystal though. I like a good balance between the two types of experiences
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: Eminence]
#23428304 - 07/10/16 02:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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What is changa exactly, and what type of acacia is both affordable and potent?
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: Phinx6236]
#23429111 - 07/10/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Phinx6236 said: What is changa exactly, and what type of acacia is both affordable and potent?
acacia confusa root bark is probably the best bang for your buck but contains mor nmt than dmt, so it will be slightly less potent and slightly different of an experience (unless it is purified via thin layer chromatography)
Changa is when freebase dmt is dissolved in acetone or some other solvent, layed on to caapi leaf then allowed to dry. When it is smoked it produces longer and more spiritual effects than smoked dmt normally does, not to mention it is much easier to smoke. Dmt can also be layed onto other herbs like marijuana or inactive smokeable herbs, some people also like to add harmala alkaloids to the mix to intensify the experience.
There is lots of info on changa on the DMT Nexus site
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: natedawgnow]
#23429149 - 07/10/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Gramine is an indole alkaloid, as is DMT. If you extract DMT, you also extract gramine. The two can be separated but it takes some chemistry know how. Please look towards a friendlier plant ally for your experience
Actually gramine is non soluble in naphtha to my knowledge so a typical extraction separates them....
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: musiclover420]
#23429177 - 07/10/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Gramine is an indole alkaloid, as is DMT. If you extract DMT, you also extract gramine. The two can be separated but it takes some chemistry know how. Please look towards a friendlier plant ally for your experience
Actually gramine is non soluble in naphtha to my knowledge so a typical extraction separates them....
Well that's good to know if its true.
Mucosa is getting expensive, hard to find. Acacia is gunna get banned someday too.
Grass is renewable, much faster than trees. I think it might take too much weight in grass to make it practical at home tho right? Do you know anything about extracting from grass because I dont
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: musiclover420]
#23429191 - 07/10/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Gramine is an indole alkaloid, as is DMT. If you extract DMT, you also extract gramine. The two can be separated but it takes some chemistry know how. Please look towards a friendlier plant ally for your experience
Actually gramine is non soluble in naphtha to my knowledge so a typical extraction separates them....
I never looked into it, but this statement seems correct! (always assumed it was soluble in naptha for some reason.)
Gramine is not soluble in petroleum ether which I believe is the main ingrediant in most naptha brands. Although I would not count on gramine being insoluble in naptha because if I remember correctly naptha is a mixture of multiple hydrocarbon solvents that vary brand to brand.
I would either use pure petroleum ether or a naptha brand that contains only chemicals that gramine is not soluble in (might take some real research though)
please correct me if any of the information above is innacurate.
also there are lots of other compounds to be worried about besides gramine, so with uncommon plants I cannot reccommend taking anything that is not purified with thin layer chromatography, 95% you will be fine with simple extractions, but it is not worth the risk imo.
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: dumbasswolf]
#23429236 - 07/10/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Grass is renewable, much faster than trees. I think it might take too much weight in grass to make it practical at home tho right? Do you know anything about extracting from grass because I dont
I used to research the subject a lot so I will share what I remember.
I think it was on the Nexus someone claimed to be getting 3~g of impure crystals from each kilo of wild phalaris.
One thing to keep in mind is there are at least 5-10 distinct types of active phalaris some of which mainly if not exclusively contain DMT while others also contain various amounts of 5meo dmt, bufotenin, gramine, hordenine (which occurs in psychedelic cacti) and even beta carbolines possibly with MAOI activity similiar to the harmalas in ayahuasca. Another important factor is genetics as well as time of harvest.
It has been theorized that even in phalaris containing dmt and gramine that at different times of the year the levels of each might switch, IE they could have high levels of dmt after the summer growing season while having high gramine levels in the winter or vice versa. Also as I said genetics play a huge role especially if using wild grass.
I have actually known people in person who claimed to have mild hallucinations from smoking fresh phalaris grass...
As for the actual extraction, phalaris as a grass has lots of plant fats so a traditional extraction with that in mind and little agitation should work.
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please correct me if any of the information above is innacurate.
also there are lots of other compounds to be worried about besides gramine, so with uncommon plants I cannot reccommend taking anything that is not purified with thin layer chromatography, 95% you will be fine with simple extractions, but it is not worth the risk imo.
You could very well be right, I don't know enough about the different things sold as naptha to really say though. As with all things caution is key.
As for the other compounds, what are you referring to? As far as I am aware gramine is the only possibly toxin compound and even that is disputed 
4-ho dmt or 5meo could be problematic if in high enough amounts but both are just trace alkaloids I believe at least in most phalaris if present at all.
That just leaves the beta carbolines and hordenine which while possibly a bit hard on the body are present in many other plants consumed for thousands of years as entheogens. If anything I believe it supports the case phalaris has potential, if you had the right genetics you could theoretically make a grass only ayahuasca with your beta carbolines for MAOI activity then your either gramine free dmt grass tea or extracted material to consume.
With enough breeding one could even make higher 5meo dmt or 4ho dmt strains to use for distinct effects.
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: musiclover420]
#23429499 - 07/10/16 02:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hmmm I have always heard that as an indole with a very similar chemical structure to DMT that it would come out with the final product. It seems that some more research in needed on my end but I still would find a better source. Psychotria or Acacia definitely come to mind.
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: musiclover420]
#23429526 - 07/10/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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As for the other compounds, what are you referring to? As far as I am aware gramine is the only possibly toxin compound and even that is disputed 
I should have made it clear that I am not specifically talking about phalaris grasses when I was saying that. I have not been actively researching phalaris news so my knowledge is limited, last time I checked information seemed inconsistent, but I'm sure in the past few months things have became more clear.
My advice was geared more towards dmt containing plants that have little or no quality information about extractions and purity.
Phalaris was at one point in this catagory, but based off of the information you have brought it seems like a much more reasonable option for average extraction tek follower.
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: natedawgnow]
#23429547 - 07/10/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Hmmm I have always heard that as an indole with a very similar chemical structure to DMT that it would come out with the final product.
You talking about gramine?
They are very similiar in structure but that doesn't mean they are soluble in the same things.
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It seems that some more research in needed on my end but I still would find a better source. Psychotria or Acacia definitely come to mind.
What makes phalaris interesting as alternatives to the various other plants with higher concentrations of tryptamines is that it grows literally all over the world, usually in huge fields. Its also un regulated being an invasive grass in many places and inexpensive/ renewable much more so then other plants like Mimosa or Acacia which are tree that take considerably more time to grow to maturity and recover from being harvested.
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I should have made it clear that I am not specifically talking about phalaris grasses when I was saying that.
That is another interesting thing many people seem to overlook, mimosa has a lot of other random alkaloids if I remember correctly.
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My advice was geared more towards dmt containing plants that have little or no quality information about extractions and purity.
It's pretty amazing how many there are 
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Phalaris was at one point in this catagory, but based off of the information you have brought it seems like a much more reasonable option for average extraction tek follower.
I am certainly not saying its the easiest or most reliable but it's certainly worth more research.
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: musiclover420]
#23430859 - 07/10/16 11:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for the help guys, would you say that making changa is easier than smoking just dmt crystals?
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: Phinx6236]
#23433875 - 07/12/16 01:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Phinx6236 said: Thanks for the help guys, would you say that making changa is easier than smoking just dmt crystals?
depending on your equipment yes.
If you have an electronic vaporizer that is suitable for dmt crystals then dont bother with changa unless using caapi leaf. (a healthstone actually works pretty well too if you keep the flame about an inch away from the dmt,)
smoking dmt crystal is not very easy with any other method I know of
Changa is super simple though, if you dont have either of the things above dont bother aquiring them and just make some changa.
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: dumbasswolf]
#23436024 - 07/12/16 08:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I ordered acacia confusa and Syrian rue online with suggestions that I seen online and with your guys suggestion on dmt source I also bought some of the things being that I have limited time and options I seen this way to extract dmt and still being able to consume it using house hold items washing soda (sodium carbonate, 90% isopropyl, vegetable oil and vinegar. I really want to have my first experience with dmt and I want to do it soon, but it seems to take a while to make it. I want to make my own, I see almost a ritualistic aspect of making it and then taking it. Any suggestions?
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: Phinx6236]
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Phinx6236 said: I ordered acacia confusa and Syrian rue online with suggestions that I seen online and with your guys suggestion on dmt source I also bought some of the things being that I have limited time and options I seen this way to extract dmt and still being able to consume it using house hold items washing soda (sodium carbonate, 90% isopropyl, vegetable oil and vinegar. I really want to have my first experience with dmt and I want to do it soon, but it seems to take a while to make it. I want to make my own, I see almost a ritualistic aspect of making it and then taking it. Any suggestions?
Yea you are going to need a better solvent than ISO.
I sugguest using and acid-base type extraction tek your first time. Plain white vinegar is ok to use as an acid, but for most A-B exrractions or Straight to base you are going to require LYE crystals. Its very caustic... but if you can handle drain cleaner youll likely be fine.
Most teks use Naptha or Bestine as a solvent to pull the DMT out of the basic solution.
If you can get your hands on D-Limonene there are teks that use that as well
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: mushpunx]
#23437276 - 07/13/16 08:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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And with the items I use for this extraction process should I only use for extraction or can it be with items I use everyday after. Or even with smoking if I have a pipe I smoke weed out of everyday sometimes with other people, should I have a different one I smoke dmt out of?
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: Phinx6236]
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Phinx6236 said: And with the items I use for this extraction process should I only use for extraction or can it be with items I use everyday after. Or even with smoking if I have a pipe I smoke weed out of everyday sometimes with other people, should I have a different one I smoke dmt out of?
Yea. You might dose your friends my mistake one day, or the pot resin might interfere with your DMT (IMO).
The pots you boil your bark in will be fine to keep using. The bark is used as a red dye, so keep that in mind- you will stain anything you get it on. My GF is still mad about the red spot on our stove 
For the rest of the process, you need glass or acid/base proof plastic, with a safe, leak proffered lid that wont melt. I use half gallon mason jars. You probably should dedicate these to extractions.
You also need a very well ventilated area- if you try this in an apartment the whole floor will be complaining of solvent fumes and strange chemical smells.
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: mushpunx]
#23437824 - 07/13/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why is naptha and bestine better than Iso as solvants?
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: Phinx6236]
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Naptha is a fairly selective solvent.
Iso will pull a lot of plant matter that will keep you from yielding crystals almost certainly.
Say you use Mimosa H or Acacia Confusa, both have a lot of secondary alkaloids besides DMT. Using Naptha you may only pull tryptamines where as an iso pull would get a ton of random unwanted stuff. Say you used a less selective solvent like Limonene however, this would pull more of the secondary alkaloids without getting contaminated with plant matter and fats.
That is how people mae "jungle spice" with Mimosa Hostilis, which is essentially a semi pure red colored dmt extract containing lots of other alkaloids.
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: musiclover420]
#23438773 - 07/13/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Okay I just bought 8 ounces of naphtha how much do you think I would need to do 50 grams of Acacia Confusa using the above items and naphtha
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: Phinx6236]
#23438794 - 07/13/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I personally have no idea, do some digging and maybe you will find some good numbers to go by 
Depending on the size of the jar/ container you use I would imagine 2-4 oz's would be plenty but that is essentially a guess
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: musiclover420]
#23439052 - 07/13/16 08:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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How long does it take to evaporate the solvent to get the crystals?
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: Phinx6236]
#23439074 - 07/13/16 08:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: Phinx6236]
#23439280 - 07/13/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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hinx6236 said: How long does it take to evaporate the solvent to get the crystals?
Hours. I dont evaporate, I freeze precipitate and then just dry off the crystals.
From your questions it sounds like you need to be doing a whole lot more of your own research. I would read, then read some more before you purchase any more supplies or attempt an extraction.
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: Phinx6236]
#25877357 - 03/16/19 07:02 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I read that gramine can separated using either naptha or limonene at room temperature.
Is there actual percentage of DMT in phalaris arundinacea?
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: Phinx6236]
#25877383 - 03/16/19 07:28 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Phinx6236 said: Okay I just bought 8 ounces of naphtha how much do you think I would need to do 50 grams of Acacia Confusa using the above items and naphtha
Idk what tek are you following... Find a tek bro
Canary reed grass grows across the street from me. It's useless for DMT extraction.
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: bodhisatta]
#25878141 - 03/16/19 02:59 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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sauroman1 said: I read that gramine can separated using either naptha or limonene at room temperature.
Is there actual percentage of DMT in phalaris arundinacea?
I've seen some rough percentages but there have not really been any tests.
The potency of the grass seems to vary considerably though, which makes sense considering how widespread it is.
Been years since I did any research but I remember seeing a rough figure of around 3g~ of impure crystals from a kilo of grass, though it may have been 2-3 kilos. And it would depend on how it's processed.
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Phinx6236 said: Okay I just bought 8 ounces of naphtha how much do you think I would need to do 50 grams of Acacia Confusa using the above items and naphtha
Idk what tek are you following... Find a tek bro
Canary reed grass grows across the street from me. It's useless for DMT extraction.
Ehh definitely not useless, but not as simple as more potent tryptamine plants. Those plants could easily get overused though without sustainable farming as the demand goes up.
There is phalaris with DMT, 5meoDMT, bufotenin, as well as beta carbolines/potential MAOI's.
It grows on every continent except antartica, and there are dozens of varieties of phalaris. So we haven't even tested all of them, for all we know there could be some extra potent varieties out with their own MAOI effects and no gramine (which is mainly in P aquatica I believe)
I've heard a spoonful of pressed "phalaris grass juice" has enough DMT for oral DMT, but then you risk ingesting gramine depending on the kind of phalaris, and grass juice probably tastes foul. But the point is there could be simpler ways to use phalaris without doing a full extraction, but there are absolutely cases of people extracting crystals from phalaris grass with varying yields depending on the methods and type of phalaris.
If a phalaris Tek is ever perfected it would allow literally anyone to extract DMT from their own yard/area, no ordering grey area plants online that could easily get you in legal trouble in many places.
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: musiclover420]
#26337741 - 11/22/19 09:15 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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You harvest the roots. A bunch, dry them out or not. Freeze for 24hrs then thaw 3x to expose the inner chemicals. Then do a basic AB extraction. Its potent, be careful. It's like Dmt and toad venom at same time. Toad venom in a vape is on a whole different level.
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: Phinx6236]
#26338732 - 11/22/19 06:11 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't make it complicated, Use an STB tek, I suggest Nature Boy tek. MHRB is 95 a kilo, I get average 2 grams form 100 grams of bark.
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Re: How do you extract dmt from phalaris arundinacea (canary reed grass) questions [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26339479 - 11/23/19 04:35 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I had 0 psychadelic experience and ordered mhrb offline and teked it, ended up being less than a benjamin and had 2g of some beautifully washed DMT. I don't know what having a wife and kids has to do with anything, If your wife isn't supportive of this endeavor, it's not one I would undertake. follow a proper tek online first time around, you might decide DMT isn't for you. definitely not something as social as LSD or mushrooms.
if you can really get a kilo of mhrb for $95 that's totally the route i'd take and am personally looking into doing a STB again lol it was around $50 for 250g back when I bought mine
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