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Yellow contamination?? Pics
#23427057 - 07/09/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok, I know these topics are pretty beat up but I cannot find anything that looks just like this even on google images...
This is my second run of BRF cakes. I have cleaned everything out since the first run, new perlite and everything. First run went well. Had around 20 cakes and ended up producing 2.5oz or so. After 5 cycles many started getting very obvious mold splotches so I scrapped it all.
Anyways. This cake hasn't even fruited yet and is already showing discoloration. In jar until pin, soaked for 12 hours or so. It is Cambodian strain. The other cakes in batch are showing similar yellow discoloration. I haven't changed anything in my process.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
#23427061 - 07/09/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Metabolites
They need to be rolled in verm
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mushiez]
#23427285 - 07/09/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I did try that on some of my last batch. Birthed cakes, soaked. Heated oven to 250 or so and spread out Verm, thin layer and baked for 15min or so to sterilize. Wet cakes and rolled. They seemed to take much longer to start fruiting, produced less and got real contam faster. Is there something I'm missing?
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
#23427303 - 07/09/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Amidway said: I did try that on some of my last batch. Birthed cakes, soaked. Heated oven to 250 or so and spread out Verm, thin layer and baked for 15min or so to sterilize. Wet cakes and rolled. They seemed to take much longer to start fruiting, produced less and got real contam faster. Is there something I'm missing?
depends on a lot of factors, if you soak longer than 24 hrs, contam risk increases
your contamination source could be living in and producing spores in your FC as well, especially if it is the same FC, new cakes can succumb from remnants of old contams
to prevent this, warm soapy water wash the fc if any contam occurs
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mushiez]
#23427328 - 07/09/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I completely disposed of all old cakes, perlite etc. cleaned out FC very well, bleach all over inside and out. I usually only soak 10-12 hours. Pretty easy to get a feel for when it's fully saturated. I'm trying roll again now with cakes I removed from soak a few hours ago
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
#23427361 - 07/09/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That looks dry as fuck, probably why it turned yellow.
Changing the perlite and bleaching the FC is totally a waste of time and money. If you are seeing contams early in the game, it's not the verm's fault, the cake was contaminated during inoculation most of the time. Verm has little to no nutrients and contams cannot germinate on it.
Check your inoculant and pick apart your sterile tek, the fault is somewhere between those two.
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Mushiez said:
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Amidway said: I did try that on some of my last batch. Birthed cakes, soaked. Heated oven to 250 or so and spread out Verm, thin layer and baked for 15min or so to sterilize. Wet cakes and rolled. They seemed to take much longer to start fruiting, produced less and got real contam faster. Is there something I'm missing?
depends on a lot of factors, if you soak longer than 24 hrs, contam risk increases
your contamination source could be living in and producing spores in your FC as well, especially if it is the same FC, new cakes can succumb from remnants of old contams
to prevent this, warm soapy water wash the fc if any contam occurs

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Supalemonhaze said: That looks dry as fuck, probably why it turned yellow.
Changing the perlite and bleaching the FC is totally a waste of time and money. If you are seeing contams early in the game, it's not the verm's fault, the cake was contaminated during inoculation most of the time. Verm has little to no nutrients and contams cannot germinate on it.
Check your inoculant and pick apart your sterile tek, the fault is somewhere between those two.
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Edited by LocN9ne (07/09/16 06:23 PM)
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: LocN9ne]
#23427365 - 07/09/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I missed that. That's like golden bad info.
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you can also try and use as little spore solution as possible, as it could be a vector.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: LocN9ne]
#23427371 - 07/09/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol you guys are tripping. Wash your FC. End of story.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mushiez]
#23427382 - 07/09/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Washing the FC is useless. Fruiting is not a sterile procedure and it has no reason to be. If you are not capable of clean spawn/cakes, no amount of washing and bleaching will save you from contams.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mushiez]
#23427387 - 07/09/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok. There's some misunderstanding. My last batch easily made 5 fruit cycles before I started seeing real contam. I JUST cleaned out chamber very well and replaced perlite. Yes I know I didn't have to but I don't care about a few dollars.
They are not "dry as fuck" that cake was just soaked and fully saturated a few days ago.
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No that's bullshit. Keep you spore load down. I don't care what people say.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mushiez]
#23427392 - 07/09/16 06:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mushiez said: I don't care what people say.
Well, OP that's all you should need to know about info given by this person..
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
#23427408 - 07/09/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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LocN9ne said:
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Mushiez said: I don't care what people say.
Well, OP that's all you should need to know about info given by this person..
Wouldn't it be nice if you can get rid of spore load by just washing your tubs? That's gotta be the most ridiculous thing I've heard this week.
Newsflash, spores are microscopic and can hitch a ride on dust particles, stick to walls and stay in the air for hours at a time. Goodluck getting rid of something you can't see. 
Spore load also has very little to no effect on healthy spawn. Keyword being healthy. You can take a dump on a healthy tub and it won't contam, that's one of the wonders of good sterile tek.
If I wasn't a lazy fucker tonight I would quote Mad season saying that he hasn't changed his polyfill for years and it is all black due to cube and mold spores.
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They are not "dry as fuck" that cake was just soaked and fully saturated a few days ago.

Try going a few days without a drop of water. Dunking is not nearly as efficient as you think it is. You still have to mist at least 3 times a day with cakes, even more since you didn't coat them with verm.
This thread is halfway down the shitter already.
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I did take half of them and got a good coating of sterile Verm on them. We'll see how they do compared to the others. My yields all seem pretty low. I'd say I avg 2-2.5gr dry per cake per cycle.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
#23427418 - 07/09/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This batch I have been only misting the walls of FC once they are about dried out. My last batch, which I was much more heavily misting people said too much. I was getting fuzzy feet etc. I'm still seeing fuzzy feet actually.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mushiez]
#23427420 - 07/09/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Amidway said: They are not "dry as fuck" that cake was just soaked and fully saturated a few days ago.
So why is there no glistening water on the surface? Dude you can deny it all you want. The surface looks bone-dry. Some people have to mist directly(not the walls) 3 times a day, even if it's covered in verm..
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Mushiez said: No that's bullshit. Keep you spore load down. I don't care what people say.
Wow. You only have to be sterile in your still air box, and since its application is to keep air still, the sterile component is dependent on your procedures.
Yeah if we're going to go into spore loads.. I live in a 70s farmhouse with 4 dogs and horses. I had this lost in my basement for pretty much the entire winter with the furnace turning on every 20 minutes, and I still grow just fine. I got spore covered chambers with the same spore covered poly from 2012.. Clean spawn is what is needed in this situation. Keeping spore load down will help if you can't have clean spawn, but if you can actually get clean spawn, you can spawn that shit next to a cobweb infected trichy af monotub.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mad Season]
#23427445 - 07/09/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Here he comes to save the day. 
OP, what you basically did was go from one extreme to another. If you were misting too much, now you are basically not misting at all. Misting the sides is useless, the cake cannot drink humidity, it needs water. If you are seeing fuzzy feet from a bone dry cake, your FAE is too low, check if you are following the SGFC tek perfectly, meaning hole placement, size and quantity as well as elevating the FC a few inches off the ground.
If you still get fuzzy feet from following the TEK perfectly, add some more holes. The only time I used a SGFC, I had aerial mycelium as well. This is one of the reasons why I prefer monotubs and bulk personally, you can dial the FAE to your needs while with a SGFC, you have to fuck around with a driller or a solder iron.
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I'm still trying to figure out the yellow line on that first cake. It almost looks like something was leaning on it or something.
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I guess I'll say it... Those cakes are contaminated already... Most likely bacteria... That is common in pf tek because syringes are always bacterial to some degree... That yellow line is where the myc "soaked up" the metabolites and dried out because lack of misting.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: LocN9ne]
#23427469 - 07/09/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The cake does look a tad bit strange so that's probably correct. Sometimes mycelium will go yellow as it dries as well, without the presence of bacteria/metabolites. With spores to sub, I can see the former being more likely.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: LocN9ne]
#23427470 - 07/09/16 07:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Truthfully it looks like a typical contam border.
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Kizzle said: Sectoring - When two different fungal species are growing in the same substrate they ternd to form distinct borders between the two mycelia. Often a line of metabolites may be seen where the two fungi meet. Hourglass shaped mold sectors in PF jars are almost always the result of a compromised dry vermiculite layer whereas circular mold colonies are usually the result of a mold growing from one of the inoculation points.
   
But it looks like it should be fine for fruiting imo. Maybe it's just a coincidence.. still looks like it is a border tho lol
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mad Season]
#23427480 - 07/09/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gnarly.
I hope he washed his jars with bleach or just threw them away and bought new ones. Don't want the spore load getting out of hand now do we?
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mad Season]
#23427482 - 07/09/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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A border you say.... BUILD A WALL!!!
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: LocN9ne]
#23427492 - 07/09/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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build a wall and make them pay for it!
but yeah, you guys are right. I just haven't grown cakes in over a year.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: dankington]
#23427497 - 07/09/16 07:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I only made half a cake grow, chucked them before they matured. Agar and grains > everything else.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mushiez]
#23427529 - 07/09/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mushiez said: No that's bullshit. Keep you spore load down. I don't care what people say.
thinking that not washing your FC causes contams shows just how little you still know about how mushrooms are grown. You really should start paying attention to what people tell you.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: spacechildo]
#23427535 - 07/09/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Spawning clean grains to a filthy unwashed tub is a waste of time and spawn. What it is.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mushiez]
#23427541 - 07/09/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's based off of you actually trying it for yourself?
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mad Season]
#23427548 - 07/09/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: That's based off of you actually trying it for yourself?
No. Leaving shit unwashed is bad practice.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mushiez]
#23427550 - 07/09/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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OH really?
Haven't washed or drained the water in this tub for 3 grows, still growing shrooms just fine. And it's not really that bad, I've had worse looking tubs.

I feel more albinos coming your way.
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Cool. Don't encourage others to leave that wet nasty mess to sit in their FCs
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mushiez]
#23427558 - 07/09/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mushiez said:
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Mad Season said: That's based off of you actually trying it for yourself?
No. Leaving shit unwashed is bad practice.
I'll agree with you on that... Using a tub that is nasty is just that, nasty... But it is not the cause of contamination... And although it doesn't really matter all that much I do wash my tubs... That being said I have never washed my SGFC or my perlite...
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mushiez]
#23427559 - 07/09/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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listen, i agree that in general, cleanliness is always better. but just learn to accept when you're wrong, it's better for everyone involved.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mushiez]
#23427560 - 07/09/16 07:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: That's based off of you actually trying it for yourself?
No. Leaving shit unwashed is bad practice.
Yeah. Yet I still grow these.

It isn't the reason why shit contaminates. Like what was said by loc. Dirty spawn is why.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mushiez]
#23427564 - 07/09/16 07:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why not? It's harmless. That is proof that a dirty tub will not cause contams. Not really encouraging anything really, just proving you wrong.
Mad season already showed you how he had a moldy tub hidden in his basement for months with his furnace blowing mold spores everywhere. He also said how his polyfill is a few years old and dirty as fuck, still no contams. And why, you say? Well clean spawn, of course.
I suggest actually learning something about cultivation before you go around spreading bullshit around. Focus on what matters, your shrooms will thank you in the long run. Might even thank yourself.
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Supalemonhaze said: Why not? It's harmless. That is proof that a dirty tub will not cause contams. Not really encouraging anything really, just proving you wrong.
Mad season already showed you how he had a moldy tub hidden in his basement for months with his furnace blowing mold spores everywhere. He also said how his polyfill is a few years old and dirty as fuck, still no contams. And why, you say? Well clean spawn, of course.
I suggest actually learning something about cultivation before you go around spreading bullshit around. Focus on what matters, your shrooms will thank you in the long run. Might even thank yourself.
I work in a mycology lab so I don't need your essays.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mushiez]
#23427571 - 07/09/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's just hopeless. I feel sorry for your boss.
Edit: Nice opt out by the way. I was just reading your responce to a neg rate saying how "pixelated shrooms" mean nothing to you. Spoken like a champ, if only you acted and gave advice like one.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mushiez]
#23427575 - 07/09/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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that's one of my favorites. "I'm a mycologist" or "my friend's a mycologist and he says..." or "I'm a doctor in micro-biology"...
talk is cheap.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: dankington]
#23427576 - 07/09/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ikr and it like 90% of the time just turns out they know jack shit
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mad Season]
#23427583 - 07/09/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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But dude, I had a TC tag.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: dankington]
#23427584 - 07/09/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doctor in micro-biology was my favorite man... Ratings on this site are the equivalent of people vouching for you and letting other people know if information given by you is crap or good... Opting out of ratings speaks volumes...
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: LocN9ne]
#23427589 - 07/09/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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General rating of 0 shrooms > Opt out.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: LocN9ne]
#23427592 - 07/09/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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LocN9ne said: Doctor in micro-biology was my favorite man... Ratings on this site are the equivalent of people vouching for you and letting other people know if information given by you is crap or good... Opting out of ratings speaks volumes...
Lol whatever. I told them wash their shit, and they crucify me. I don't need ratings from ego gaming fools. So you all can hop off.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: LocN9ne]
#23427593 - 07/09/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I loved the my mycologist friend says it's pinning by topsy xD. That was like pages of ignorance. Once it triched out he's like so ima just try the same thing. People stopped replying quick xD
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mushiez]
#23427596 - 07/09/16 07:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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LocN9ne said: Doctor in micro-biology was my favorite man... Ratings on this site are the equivalent of people vouching for you and letting other people know if information given by you is crap or good... Opting out of ratings speaks volumes...
Lol whatever. I told them wash their shit, and they crucify me. I don't need ratings from ego gaming fools. So you all can hop off.
Nah man, I agreed with you that cleaning tubs is good practice... I just don't agree that it is what causes contamination in a grow... Don't get your panties in a bunch.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mad Season]
#23427600 - 07/09/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, even after it grew mold, just like everyone said it would, he was still adamant about it not being bacterial. That one was even worse than mushiez here, and that's pretty close to impossible.
I think mushiez and hybrid will get along pretty well. Might just brainstorm together and release the largest misinformation hub of all time. All that mattes is that one works in a mycology lab and the other had a TC tag once upon a time.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: LocN9ne]
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LocN9ne said: Doctor in micro-biology was my favorite man... Ratings on this site are the equivalent of people vouching for you and letting other people know if information given by you is crap or good... Opting out of ratings speaks volumes...
Lol whatever. I told them wash their shit, and they crucify me. I don't need ratings from ego gaming fools. So you all can hop off.
Nah man, I agreed with you that cleaning tubs is good practice... I just don't agree that it is what causes contamination in a grow... Don't get your panties in a bunch.

Claiming spore loads are what's killing their grows, noobs give up. Telling them how to have clean spawn... they turn into God's. Growing in your house isn't anything like a lab. You can Lysol everything down, the moment you open a door, it'll be spore loaded again.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mad Season]
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Anyone with at least half a brain will understand that even though I don't wash my tubs after each grow, I was just showing how dirty tubs don't cause contams and not actually recommending to leave your shit dirty.
But yeah, of course we are the ego fags, we just proved you wrong after all.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
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You're doing something wrong. I average 6.4g per cake and that's just following basic instructions. Listen to what these folks have to say. It's a place of learning. No one here purposefully gives out false info. Don't have to be guarded, either. Listen to these guys and gals and you can't go wrong. Good luck.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: LocN9ne]
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LocN9ne said: Doctor in micro-biology was my favorite man... Ratings on this site are the equivalent of people vouching for you and letting other people know if information given by you is crap or good... Opting out of ratings speaks volumes...
I invented micro-biology.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Mushiez]
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Lol whatever. I told them wash their shit, and they crucify me. I don't need ratings from ego gaming fools. So you all can hop off.
its not ego gaming, its warning people about your BS. filthy tubs are never the reason you grow mold before the sub is spent.
"I work in a myco lab" really means you have no idea whats up.
I only remember you as wikipedia-guy, dude that didnt even understand what the wiki pages was trying to say.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: spacechildo]
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My setup. I didn't measure the holes but around 2" apart, bottom, sides and lid. It is elevated.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
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That's pretty good man... Just mist the cakes directly whenever the beads of moisture dry up... Don't mist the walls, they won't grow...
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
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Seems like there's even a few holes extra, which is a good thing. What variety are you growing? Some varieties grow a little fuzz naturally. With that setup you shouldn't really be getting fuzzy feet unless you waterlog the cakes.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: LocN9ne]
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To confirm. I should be misting the cakes directly. I'm trying not to get frustrated there's just so much misinformation. What about when there's fruit? I've been told really bad to have any water/mist on them. Must fan off after misting so nothing on the fruit etc etc
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Cambodian but all 3 stains I have done (creeper, b+) have done the same fuzz, the larger the fruit the more fuzz. If anything my setup has been way too dry. I've dunked every harvest and kept the walls wet, never spraying directly
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
#23427661 - 07/09/16 08:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Those are all true if you have a bad chamber built. Which is what people had in the past.
With a good chamber there's so much Fae that the water evaporates away before harming any fruit bodies. Yes mist directly until glistening with no pooling water!
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
#23427663 - 07/09/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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mist them directly, from a bit of a distance. Don't fan. leave the walls alone, they aren't thirsty.
edit: Mad Season gave a good link right there.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: dankington]
#23427680 - 07/09/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, as mad season hinted, the reason why they never misted directly in the past was because they always grew shrooms in an environment lacking proper FAE. This would end up causing problems because the water on the shrooms took too long to evaporate.
A SGFC is a rather new FC, it will evaporate the water fast enough for this to never be a problem.
Evaporation is key for a good pinset, this is why a verm layer on the outside of the cakes is so beneficial. The verm will hold more water than the mycelium on the surface will so more evaporation will take place and you don't have to mist as often as you would with un-rolled cakes. With good FAE, misting the sub and fruits directly is best.
Good information is hard to come by if you don't know how to find it. Take a look at this to see how you can find the most up to date information using the search function. I wouldn't go any older than 5 years for the currently used teks. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22144051
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I plan on getting some more spores and giving cracked corn a try.
I planned on using a liquid I made with the rest of the last spores I had. I did corn syrup. It's been approx 35 days at 80-82deg and there isn't much growing. It's there just doesn't seem like enough to innoc.
Swirled to get it all moving, is this worth a try to innoc some jars?
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
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cracked corn? that blows hard chunks. don't use cracked corn. just say no to crack, okay?
Stick to one of our preferred grains; WBS, Rye, Rye grass seed, millet, Oats, etc, etc.
also do not use spores for anything but agar or BRF cakes. making an LC or using spores to grain is dicey.
the only reason to do spores to grain is if you're having too much trouble germinating; but you'd still take a grain to clean the growth on agar anyways.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: dankington]
#23427816 - 07/09/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Corn is fine if whole but cracked is a headache. You can get it to work but you really need to be careful with the prep. Lots of people have trouble with burst grains causing clumped jars, cracked corn comes "burst" in the bag so just a little bit of overhydration will be disastrous.
Sticking to the grains that dank recommended is better though, corn is not as nutritious as other grains. Oats are pretty much the best grain for a newbie, it's very easy to prep and it's a strong grain so they burst a lot less than say, WBS or millet. Rye is very similiar to oats but I think oats are a little bit stronger and more foolproof.
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how am I supposed to innoc then? Can't used liquid spores. Can't use LC? How then? Still wondering if that jar pictured is worth trying with anything.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
#23427826 - 07/09/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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with a wedge of agar?
don't be afraid. If you're gonna grow, you gotta start sometime.
otherwise just keep growing cakes, dood.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
#23427829 - 07/09/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Agar or LI. You would need to use a syringe if you want to use LI on cakes though. Agar is pretty damn cool because it's the safest and cleanest inoculant we can get.
You could pour LI or drop wedges in cakes if you use a proper filter on your lids instead of the verm barrier. If you want a verm barrier, getting clean agar plates, turning them into LI and using a syringe to inoculate is your best option.
You could give LC a shot if you start doing agar but LI is a much safer option IMO. Never use spores on an LC and even if you use agar, always test it out before you inoculate a large amount of jars.
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dankington said: with a wedge of agar?
don't be afraid. If you're gonna grow, you gotta start sometime.
otherwise just keep growing cakes, dood.
Oh, wasn't even sure what agar was. Read up a little, still not sure lol. You may be right, stick to the BRF cakes. Really want to try something else. At least a more nutritious substrate mix.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
#23427887 - 07/09/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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no, nutrition's got much less to do with it than you think. just listen to me. start up some pastyplates or something when you can. you'll be glad you did.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: dankington]
#23427895 - 07/09/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Have a good Tek link for beginners?
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
#23427904 - 07/09/16 10:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I linked to it already for the agar. that's the most newb friendly method.
but learn to walk before you learn to run, I guess.
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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: dankington]
#23427906 - 07/09/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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this is indispensable when it comes to working with agar.
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