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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
    #23427663 - 07/09/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

mist them directly, from a bit of a distance. Don't fan.
leave the walls alone, they aren't thirsty.

edit: :whathesaid: Mad Season gave a good link right there.


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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: dankington]
    #23427680 - 07/09/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, as mad season hinted, the reason why they never misted directly in the past was because they always grew shrooms in an environment lacking proper FAE. This would end up causing problems because the water on the shrooms took too long to evaporate.

A SGFC is a rather new FC, it will evaporate the water fast enough for this to never be a problem.

Evaporation is key for a good pinset, this is why a verm layer on the outside of the cakes is so beneficial. The verm will hold more water than the mycelium on the surface will so more evaporation will take place and you don't have to mist as often as you would with un-rolled cakes. With good FAE, misting the sub and fruits directly is best.

Good information is hard to come by if you don't know how to find it. Take a look at this to see how you can find the most up to date information using the search function. I wouldn't go any older than 5 years for the currently used teks.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22144051


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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23427788 - 07/09/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I plan on getting some more spores and giving cracked corn a try.

I planned on using a liquid I made with the rest of the last spores I had.  I did corn syrup.  It's been approx 35 days at 80-82deg and there isn't much growing.  It's there just doesn't seem like enough to innoc.

Swirled to get it all moving, is this worth a try to innoc some jars?



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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
    #23427803 - 07/09/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

cracked corn? that blows hard chunks.
don't use cracked corn.
just say no to crack, okay?

Stick to one of our preferred grains; WBS, Rye, Rye grass seed, millet, Oats, etc, etc.

also do not use spores for anything but agar or BRF cakes. making an LC or using spores to grain is dicey.

the only reason to do spores to grain is if you're having too much trouble germinating; but you'd still take a grain to clean the growth on agar anyways.


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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: dankington]
    #23427816 - 07/09/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Corn is fine if whole but cracked is a headache. You can get it to work but you really need to be careful with the prep. Lots of people have trouble with burst grains causing clumped jars, cracked corn comes "burst" in the bag so just a little bit of overhydration will be disastrous.

Sticking to the grains that dank recommended is better though, corn is not as nutritious as other grains. Oats are pretty much the best grain for a newbie, it's very easy to prep and it's a strong grain so they burst a lot less than say, WBS or millet. Rye is very similiar to oats but I think oats are a little bit stronger and more foolproof.


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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23427825 - 07/09/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

how am I supposed to innoc then?  Can't used liquid spores. Can't use LC?  How then?  Still wondering if that jar pictured is worth trying with anything.


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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
    #23427826 - 07/09/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

with a wedge of agar?

don't be afraid. If you're gonna grow, you gotta start sometime.

otherwise just keep growing cakes, dood.


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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
    #23427829 - 07/09/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Agar or LI. You would need to use a syringe if you want to use LI on cakes though. Agar is pretty damn cool because it's the safest and cleanest inoculant we can get.

You could pour LI or drop wedges in cakes if you use a proper filter on your lids instead of the verm barrier. If you want a verm barrier, getting clean agar plates, turning them into LI and using a syringe to inoculate is your best option.

You could give LC a shot if you start doing agar but LI is a much safer option IMO. Never use spores on an LC and even if you use agar, always test it out before you inoculate a large amount of jars.


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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23427882 - 07/09/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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with a wedge of agar?

don't be afraid. If you're gonna grow, you gotta start sometime.

otherwise just keep growing cakes, dood.




Oh, wasn't even sure what agar was.  Read up a little, still not sure lol.  You may be right, stick to the BRF cakes.  Really want to try something else.  At least a more nutritious substrate mix.


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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
    #23427887 - 07/09/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

no, nutrition's got much less to do with it than you think.
just listen to me. start up some pastyplates or something when you can. you'll be glad you did.


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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: dankington]
    #23427895 - 07/09/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Have a good Tek link for beginners?


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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: Amidway]
    #23427904 - 07/09/16 10:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I linked to it already for the agar. that's the most newb friendly method.

but learn to walk before you learn to run, I guess.


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Re: Yellow contamination?? Pics [Re: dankington]
    #23427906 - 07/09/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

this is indispensable when it comes to working with agar.


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