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Blazeyy
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Re: OFFICIAL UK 2016 Liberty Cap Season [Re: clioharri]
#23783646 - 10/29/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Until recently, Deconica was generally considered to be synonymous with Psilocybe, and was originally named as a subgenus of Agaricus by Worthington George Smith in 1870.[1] It was later raised to generic level by Petter Karsten in 1879.[3] However, several molecular studies published in the 2000s demonstrated that Psilocybe, as it was defined then, was polyphyletic.[4][5][6] The studies supported the idea of dividing the genus into two clades, one consisting of the bluing, hallucinogenic species, and the other made of the non-bluing, non-hallucinogenic species. However, the generally accepted lectotype (a specimen later selected when the original author of a taxon name did not designate a type) of the genus as a whole was Psilocybe montana, a non-hallucinogenic species; if those forms of the species in the study were to be segregated, it would leave the hallucinogenic clade without a valid name. To resolve this taxonomical dilemma, it was proposed in 2005 to conserve the name Psilocybe, with P. semilanceata as the type, leaving the option to use Deconica as the name for the non-hallucinogenic clade.[7] The proposal was accepted unanimously by the Nomenclature Committee for Fungi in 2009.[8] Recently, it has been reported that the non-bluing Psilocybe fuscofulva does not produce hallucinogenic compounds.[9] Thus, non-hallucinogenic species are also covered by the genus Psilocybe, not only Deconica.
-------------------- I give you the choice of 2 pills.
With each containing one of the following: Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk? Didn't think so. This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.
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clioharri
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Re: OFFICIAL UK 2016 Liberty Cap Season [Re: Blazeyy]
#23784413 - 10/30/16 04:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Blazeyy said: Wiki:
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Until recently, Deconica was generally considered to be synonymous with Psilocybe, and was originally named as a subgenus of Agaricus by Worthington George Smith in 1870.[1] It was later raised to generic level by Petter Karsten in 1879.[3] However, several molecular studies published in the 2000s demonstrated that Psilocybe, as it was defined then, was polyphyletic.[4][5][6] The studies supported the idea of dividing the genus into two clades, one consisting of the bluing, hallucinogenic species, and the other made of the non-bluing, non-hallucinogenic species. However, the generally accepted lectotype (a specimen later selected when the original author of a taxon name did not designate a type) of the genus as a whole was Psilocybe montana, a non-hallucinogenic species; if those forms of the species in the study were to be segregated, it would leave the hallucinogenic clade without a valid name. To resolve this taxonomical dilemma, it was proposed in 2005 to conserve the name Psilocybe, with P. semilanceata as the type, leaving the option to use Deconica as the name for the non-hallucinogenic clade.[7] The proposal was accepted unanimously by the Nomenclature Committee for Fungi in 2009.[8] Recently, it has been reported that the non-bluing Psilocybe fuscofulva does not produce hallucinogenic compounds.[9] Thus, non-hallucinogenic species are also covered by the genus Psilocybe, not only Deconica.
So it has psilocybin in them but the psilo doesn't work,,,,,, weird.
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Re: OFFICIAL UK 2016 Liberty Cap Season [Re: clioharri]
#23784497 - 10/30/16 06:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hello Everyone, after much searching I've found these right under my nose.
I think they're Psilocybe cyanescens - but am not sure. I found them growing near rotting wood.
Thanks in advance



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Minty1984
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Re: OFFICIAL UK 2016 Liberty Cap Season [Re: Blazeyy]
#23784623 - 10/30/16 08:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've been picking the last three days in my work breaks and it gets better and better. These are my first times I've been picking. I'm ignoring the 4th and first occasion, this Monday just gone, where I picked a load of the wrong bloody thing...cue the research.
This morning I only had an hour either side of a half an hour drive in my morning break and had a great time. It seems to get easier the more I go. From a little research and just using logical thinking, I've got a good spot and am getting better by the minute at finding them.
The main reason I have decided to post is that I found a whopper today. I've been lucky enough to pick many that I thought were fully grown but this one was a different level. It's over an inch in width. This is big right?
In my hour I got a solid amount of goods, probably a couple hundred at a guess, maybe more, maybe less.


Excuse the poor images and underside down nature of one of them. I've got a full day off tomorrow, so I'm going to spend the whole day at my spot and get a sore back. Can't wait...
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Zakarey
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Re: OFFICIAL UK 2016 Liberty Cap Season [Re: Minty1984]
#23784779 - 10/30/16 09:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hello was curious if any one started getting fruit in the South East?
I thought id have a ganders today with out the highest of hopes but found one of my fields was fruiting along the outskirts, closest to the woods that backs on to it. The rest of the field had nothing.
Feel i may have found myself a micro climate?
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PsyMindz86
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Re: OFFICIAL UK 2016 Liberty Cap Season [Re: Zakarey]
#23784816 - 10/30/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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hello zak long time no see ... took some heavy flak this year, still rollin lol.. get out there, you wont be disappointed.... I'm east Anglia and they fruiting, lots of fog and mist has acted as a nice blanket of moisture to the grounds!! but if that the case,asin one side stopped. ava look for some new spots
- any new art work for me eyes geeza?
Edited by PsyMindz86 (10/30/16 10:24 AM)
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Re: OFFICIAL UK 2016 Liberty Cap Season [Re: PsyMindz86]
#23784863 - 10/30/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hello everyone. So I went for a little mission today. Just wanted to do some checking before anything.
The last picture with little on, I'm sure the ones to the left are, just a little mashed from the bag, but the one on the right I'm unsure.
Thank you all. 
P.S If you need any other photos(macro) let me know.
-------------------- Blackadder: Now, where the hell are we? George: Well, it's difficult to say, we appear to have crawled into an area marked with mushrooms. Blackadder: [patiently] What do those symbols denote? George: Pfff. That we're in a field of mushrooms? Blackadder: Lieutenant, that is a military map, it is unlikely to list interesting flora and fungi. Look at the key and you'll discover that those mushrooms aren't for picking. George: Good Lord, you're quite right sir, it says "mine". So, these mushrooms must belong to the man who made the map.
Edited by mwstuntz (10/30/16 10:55 AM)
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Blazeyy
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Re: OFFICIAL UK 2016 Liberty Cap Season [Re: clioharri]
#23785049 - 10/30/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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clioharri said:
So it has psilocybin in them but the psilo doesn't work,,,,,, weird.
Uh uh, no actives in them they just used to be called psilocybe, mycology is ever changing but they are closer to say, psilocybe than for example mycena, it's just dna that decides where you place them, that along with characterics, it's just usin latin to make things less confusing
example
Cannabis indica Cannabis sativa l Cannabis ruderalis
these three plants have different characteristics but are in the same group 'Cannabis'
Deconica generally means inactive psilocybe if you wanna look at it simply
if you wanna go a bit more advanced then here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphyly
anyway they're not liberty caps, so wrong thread
-------------------- I give you the choice of 2 pills.
With each containing one of the following: Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk? Didn't think so. This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.
Edited by Blazeyy (10/30/16 11:07 AM)
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PsyMindz86
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Re: OFFICIAL UK 2016 Liberty Cap Season [Re: Blazeyy]
#23785181 - 10/30/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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why the tom cruise giff? hm must be some ego thing.
o yeh he's ignoring me
Edited by PsyMindz86 (10/30/16 11:57 AM)
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eddiejessup
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Re: Anything Special?? Found quite a nice spot. [Re: fuzzywarbles]
#23785745 - 10/30/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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fuzzywarbles said: VERY confused, I haven't had any mushrooms since last Friday and 30 minutes ago I consumed 2.77g of libs that had been put into gel capsules, still no effects or feelings whatsoever. I'm beginning to wonder if all these days of hunting have been for nothing, along with the half carrier bag full of dried libs. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
You should always wait at least a week between, and if you've got any psychoactive medication that can stop them working properly?
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fuzzywarbles
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Re: Anything Special?? Found quite a nice spot. [Re: eddiejessup]
#23785970 - 10/30/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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eddiejessup said:
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fuzzywarbles said: VERY confused, I haven't had any mushrooms since last Friday and 30 minutes ago I consumed 2.77g of libs that had been put into gel capsules, still no effects or feelings whatsoever. I'm beginning to wonder if all these days of hunting have been for nothing, along with the half carrier bag full of dried libs. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
You should always wait at least a week between, and if you've got any psychoactive medication that can stop them working properly?
I'm going to wait until November 5th for my next dosage, that would mean I've had a tolerance break for 8 days. Got 3.5g of powdered libs inside of some gel capsules ready and waiting. I'm on 150MG of Sertraline per day; I presume its psychoactive as its meant to increase serotonin uptake.
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Re: Anything Special?? Found quite a nice spot. [Re: fuzzywarbles]
#23787483 - 10/31/16 03:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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My advice is to stop taking the Sertraline for a week before, but that might have side effects. It's an SSRI (reuptake inhibitor) which means it will work against the psilo, reducing the effect by a lot.
https://www.drugs.com/sertraline.html
https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18965
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Blazeyy
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Re: Anything Special?? Found quite a nice spot. [Re: eddiejessup]
#23787584 - 10/31/16 06:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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i despise ssri's with a passion not psychoactive n take too long to work n a lot of the time make things worse, lots of terrible acts are linked to ssri's
n trippin n serotonin based drugs = nono at best ull get the headspace n maybe paralyzed or feel like ur bein held down (happened to me), don't forget aswel libs sometimes let out a kind of molly rush n they will stop that happening, they severely dampen the experience
the best ad is remeron(mirtazapine) if you can handle the dreams and you can trip anytime you want on them too
i just use nothing though, well, i use libs n weed for mental health n sometimes opiates i find things that are noticeably psychoactive work best, remeron is the only one i would consider again the rest just limit my options, hate serotonin stuff but if it works by all means use em
i'm just an ssri hater, i like to feel something work right away, no good at all for panic n anxiety when i need instant relief, i have to get meds from other people because that's all they prescribe these days like anyone cares about addiction to opiates or benzos least you get help with them getting help with stuff like alcohol is a nightmare u would have to be seizing on the hozzy floor to get a benzo these days n some people really do need them i personally don't find them recreational in any way they just work well
-------------------- I give you the choice of 2 pills.
With each containing one of the following: Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk? Didn't think so. This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.
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Re: OFFICIAL UK 2016 Liberty Cap Season [Re: eddiejessup] 1
#23787641 - 10/31/16 06:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Found these while walking a local park with my toddler son. Spotted a few and then put him onto my shoulders while I had a look around...managed to find 15 odd libs...looking nice:

So next morning I went back minus the toddler for a better look and managed to find 63 more:
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PsyMindz86
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Re: Anything Special?? Found quite a nice spot. [Re: eddiejessup]
#23787733 - 10/31/16 08:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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eddiejessup said: My advice is to stop taking the Sertraline for a week before, but that might have side effects. It's an SSRI (reuptake inhibitor) which means it will work against the psilo, reducing the effect by a lot.
https://www.drugs.com/sertraline.html
https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18965
not good advice...... your going to upset the balance if you leave it out a week just for a day/night of tripping..... that's to long a gap, you cant just stop anti d's ! anyone that hasn't has near a decade of experience with anti's should not be commenting!
I leave a day, sometimes don't, ive found it actually makes no difference, problems can occur if you have missed few days of not taking them and you decide to dose! side effect start kicking in once you miss more that 2 days of your prescription .... you may see my judgment and rating have nothing to do with what I do with mushrooms and anti d's, ive always been truful to words , no one likes truth.... so that's not why , and my experiences have been intensely visual , sertraline or not.
mirtazapine? blazey don't start being an expert on anti ds for fuck sake you know nothing.... I wouldn't recommended trying to trip on those either, man wtf advice is that ! yeh good for dreaming,but you have before bed anyways! but I seriously wouldn't recommend mixing psys with those that's for sure! or try tripping on them!! - also for the grogginess it gives you the next day, they can simply make it worse! in my experience, and countless others!
I would say its tolerance and the amount you HAD TO EAT THAT DAY - for the 5th time....
look, 5th novemeber - have a light breakfast , and that be all for that day... your ment to 'fast' before taking entheos anyways!
you could decide to half your tablets close to the time you are going to trip.... as I say though, they work with or without, ive tried, the ten I had the other day, yes 10 , ten biggies with lemon ice tea , worked within 20mins , empty tum, I had sertraline that day and fuck that was intense, short and sweet , but intense..
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Edited by PsyMindz86 (10/31/16 08:19 AM)
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Re: Anything Special?? Found quite a nice spot. [Re: PsyMindz86]
#23787853 - 10/31/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Got quite a humorous picture of my Welsh Springer Spaniel, Karl, licking his chops at a lovely liberty cap that he helped me find! He was sniffing around and I thought I'd follow his nose, then a few seconds later I looked up and he was sniffing this liberty cap haha.
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Re: OFFICIAL UK 2016 Liberty Cap Season [Re: Zakarey]
#23788045 - 10/31/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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http:// hi all could I have an id on these please? I'm aware some may not be liberty caps
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Re: OFFICIAL UK 2016 Liberty Cap Season [Re: connor2016]
#23788084 - 10/31/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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8, 9, 14, 16 and possibly 7 are Psilocybe semilanceata.
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Re: OFFICIAL UK 2016 Liberty Cap Season [Re: Joie]
#23788100 - 10/31/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks man!!!
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Re: OFFICIAL UK 2016 Liberty Cap Season [Re: connor2016]
#23788148 - 10/31/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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A few mixed messages but appreciate all and any response, I agree with Psy that a week without them would be more harmful than beneficial, after around 48 hours without taking Sertraline all body movements seem over exaggerated; like turning your head feels as if you're going to do an exorcist 360 headspin and moving your arms/legs can result in hitting/knocking things by accident.
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