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FerrisBueller
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Wet spot
#23426510 - 07/09/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi,
What is "wet spot"? Some or all jars have wet looking spots adjacent to noc ports, so its not likely to be an over-squirt.
What does one do with jars containing wet spots?
Also, what does one do with stalled jars?
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HybridprX
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Wet spot (bacillus) starts out clear and becomes a light brown sludge over time. It also admits a foul odor...
Stalled jars can be attributed to pent up co2....shaking the grain expels a lot of it so the mycelium recovers faster.... It could also be bacteria...seeing as the others have Wet spot....if they're from the same cycle it wouldn't surprise me....
Shake them all and smell, you should be able to notice if you sniff at the filter....anything other then the smell of fresh mushrooms and they're chances of recovery are very unlikely and even then they would only be able to invitro fruit from the jar....bulk fails 100% of the time when bacteria is interduces by grain spawn at the start.
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I think he may be doing brf jars, since he said something about the noc ports. Unless he did spore straight to grain.
If it is brf jars, then do not shake them.
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lol
Unless they're cakes of course....
People still like them
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Edited by HybridprX (07/09/16 01:19 PM)
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FerrisBueller
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Its brf. Theres also a yellowish something or other in two jars...Im thinking the whole grow is toast.
Is there any potential at all for stalled/wet spot/mold/etc jars? Try to grow them outside or something? Isolate the good myc?
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Outdoors has a very slim chance but it is still a chance.
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FerrisBueller
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If its the garbage can or the yard...
Should I just dump the whole jar into soil or cut out the good looking myc?
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Mushiez



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FerrisBueller said: If its the garbage can or the yard...
Should I just dump the whole jar into soil or cut out the good looking myc?
wet spots usually bac
you can cut out healthy myc spawn it to past'd coco and it can fruit, but it's hard to tell if it's gone without pics
best to start over
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Re: Wet spot [Re: Mushiez]
#23426959 - 07/09/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah seriously where are the pics
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FerrisBueller
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Ill get some pics...
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Wet spots and some yellow stuff...yum!
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They all look ok to me except for the yellow sandy contam growth in the top leftmost pic
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Re: Wet spot [Re: Mushiez]
#23427274 - 07/09/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol ya that one is definitely the star of the show.
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Mushiez said: They all look ok to me except for the yellow sandy contam growth in the top leftmost pic
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FerrisBueller
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Middle pic, middle row the whole side is "wet" looking. I tried to get some of the color contrast in the others.
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FerrisBueller said: Middle pic, middle row the whole side is "wet" looking. I tried to get some of the color contrast in the others.
yea if it's dark wet looking, and esp if it is collapsing over time it is from bacterial contam
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Re: Wet spot [Re: Mushiez]
#23427325 - 07/09/16 06:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mushiez said:
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FerrisBueller said: Middle pic, middle row the whole side is "wet" looking. I tried to get some of the color contrast in the others.
yea if it's dark wet looking, and esp if it is collapsing over time it is from bacterial contam
Collapsing...good word. I thought some looked like they were shrinking inward away from the glass.
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Would it be better to cut the myc out asap or to let the myc grab as much as it can before my hail mary shot at outdoor soil?
Is putting it outside the only move?
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Those look pretty wet. What tek did you follow? Pretty much everyone of them is shitty. The last one you could maybe do some surgery.. yeah even the last one is shitty.. The rest should be buried in a garden.
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FerrisBueller said: Would it be better to cut the myc out asap or to let the myc grab as much as it can before my hail mary shot at outdoor soil?
Is putting it outside the only move?
I'd let it colonize as much as nature will allow it, then when it stalls on the bacterial zones you can birth them and scrape the margins with a sterilized spoon or knife, wash well and dunk 8 hrs. In my early cake grows after i had cleaned the zones out well, the myc recovers after the dunk and fuzzes up around the cleaned areas. Once that happens you can break it in bits and spawn to past'd coco/verm trays indoors or in coco/verm bed outdoors. I've always been able to get fruits from otherwise gone cakes, if theres white myc, there a way to do it right 
this works with bac contams, but in the future if it's mold it needs to be tossed to prevent spore explosion in your grow area
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Re: Wet spot [Re: Mushiez]
#23427370 - 07/09/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Is coco the only option? Would the good myc fruit any other ways? Arent they just small cakes, but still cakes all the same?
I ask because I already have a set up I was planning to use. Though, learning new stuff is always fun too.
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FerrisBueller said: Is coco the only option? Would the good myc fruit any other ways? Arent they just small cakes, but still cakes all the same?
I ask because I already have a set up I was planning to use. Though, learning new stuff is always fun too.
Yes they will fruit as is, though the shape won't be very regular
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Mad Season said: Those look pretty wet. What tek did you follow? Pretty much everyone of them is shitty. The last one you could maybe do some surgery.. yeah even the last one is shitty.. The rest should be buried in a garden.
PF Tek. Although, I bought these pre-sterilized from a vendor...wise choice, eh?
You dont recommend trying to fruit the good myc?
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Re: Wet spot [Re: Mushiez]
#23427383 - 07/09/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mushiez said:
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FerrisBueller said: Is coco the only option? Would the good myc fruit any other ways? Arent they just small cakes, but still cakes all the same?
I ask because I already have a set up I was planning to use. Though, learning new stuff is always fun too.
Yes they will fruit as is, though the shape won't be very regular
Could be neat. Thank you, I appreciate your input.
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Mad Season
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FerrisBueller said:
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Mad Season said: Those look pretty wet. What tek did you follow? Pretty much everyone of them is shitty. The last one you could maybe do some surgery.. yeah even the last one is shitty.. The rest should be buried in a garden.
PF Tek. Although, I bought these pre-sterilized from a vendor...wise choice, eh?
You dont recommend trying to fruit the good myc?
I don't really see much good myc.. Where is this good myc? Last 2 pics maybe, but the last one has obvious mold growing in the uncolonized area.
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FerrisBueller
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Where is this good myc?
Well, ya...I was considering a word other than good. I just meant the existing myc. At this point I think my options are the trash or a figurative lottery ticket.
Is there a reason NOT to try to fruit?
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Mad Season
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Dude I said bury it outside lol.

Those were covered in cobweb and trich. Fruited outside in a zone 2 climate with nights going down to high 30s low 40s. Rh was constantly under 15%.
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FerrisBueller
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Mad Season said: Dude I said bury it outside lol.

Those were covered in cobweb and trich. Fruited outside in a zone 2 climate with nights going down to high 30s low 40s. Rh was constantly under 15%.
Yes you did 
So, theres a nice area where other, non active shrooms grow very well. Is that a good place or do they own the area?
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Mad Season
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Give it a shot. You got nothing to lose also definitely make your own from scratch. It's actually really easy.
Mushroomvideos.com is another great resource.
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FerrisBueller
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Ya I definitely will.
Thanks for your input, I appreciate your help : )
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