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Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits
#23425799 - 07/09/16 07:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hello everyone I ended up having 20+ grow kits which I made all myself. some by syringe and some by agar media.
all the kits grow. B+ I used mixed pop corn + ray bean + wheat All the mushrooms are growing from edge of the kit. some of them have mushrooms which are growing in mid parts of the kits. but the rate is very low.
another problem which I always have is the when they start to grow (start pinning), they are lots of them. but somehow 80% of the little mushrooms just ignore to grow any larger and remain little. I have showed them with red arrow in photos picture 1
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the last picture is showing the only kit out of 20+ kits where mushrooms are growing from all parts of the kit. but as you can see it is still growing more from edge parts. but i guess the other problem (80% of them just forget to grow bigger) will remain.
Please advice.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23425805 - 07/09/16 07:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The small mushrooms that won't grow are aborts. They are essentially dead. The reason things are pinning at the sides is because your conditions are poor on top, so they pin in the edge where a nice micro climate is formed. You need to dial your fruiting conditions in better. Based on the appearance of the fruits I am going to say things in there are dry. Pics and details of your fruiting chamber would be good.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23425827 - 07/09/16 07:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Here is a picture for a fruiting chamber I have filled it with water at the bottom
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23425833 - 07/09/16 07:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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registdewer said: Here is a picture for a fruiting chamber I have filled it with water at the bottom

That is an atrocious fruiting chamber and it's no wonder you are seeing the results you are.
Read this
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23425836 - 07/09/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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registdewer said: Here is a picture for a fruiting chamber I have filled it with water at the bottom

this is not a fruiting chamber, its a torture chamber
build an SGFC or monotub stat! and for the love of god, do not make an sgfc/monotub hybrid! choose one and follow the tek to the T.
and honestly I would personally make a monotub for these over an SGFC. itll be easier, and you have enough trays to fill it. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20356759#20356759 just ignore the magnet bullshit, and simply stuff the holes with polyfill. i wish there was a good, straight-forward monotub tek to link... i like this one but the magnetic things are overkill and really weigh down that tek for the purposes of sharing with a beginner.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23425867 - 07/09/16 08:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said:
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registdewer said: Here is a picture for a fruiting chamber I have filled it with water at the bottom

That is an atrocious fruiting chamber and it's no wonder you are seeing the results you are.
Read this
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542
Thanks for the respond. I disagree because the hygrometer is showing 80% and temp is 23 also I fan them 2 times daily. The chamber i sent photo may look dry and it is dry. but I have 6 more chambers which high humidity, it has water on every side of the chamber which is showing humidity is high. and I did not understand your point. if it is happening just because of lack of humidity, the what is the relation between dry chamber and growing at the sides?
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23425869 - 07/09/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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registdewer said:
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Pastywhyte said:
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registdewer said: Here is a picture for a fruiting chamber I have filled it with water at the bottom

That is an atrocious fruiting chamber and it's no wonder you are seeing the results you are.
Read this
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542
Thanks for the respond. I disagree because the hygrometer is showing 80% and temp is 23 also I fan them 2 times daily. The chamber i sent photo may look dry and it is dry. but I have 6 more chambers which high humidity, it has water on every side of the chamber which is showing humidity is high. and I did not understand your point. if it is happening just because of lack of humidity, the what is the relation between dry chamber and growing at the sides?
Thanks
you are fucking wrong. you dont get to disagree with Pasty. why did you ask if you are going to reject the advice given to you by literally one of the top 3 cultivators on this entire site?! what were you expecting? us to tell you everything is fine and to stay the course? I simply can't understand why, if you are in a position where you have to ask for help, that you think you know the person answering you is wrong. Arrogance perhaps?
stfu, accept that you know jack shit, and listen to Pasty. That thing is garbage and I have no clue why you thought this piece of garbage would work. Standing water?! WTF man that is an open invitation to breed contaminates, not to mention is doesn't even function like you think it does.
the relation is your growing conditions suck. humidity is not nearly as important as FAE, which you have NONE of. FAE is #1. You completely lack FAE.
Water on the bottom does literally nothing for the mushrooms. Its like if you were stranded in the desert, dying of thirst, and somebody rescued you, brought you inside, then proceeded to dump water on the floor instead of letting you drink it.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Munchauzen]
#23425901 - 07/09/16 08:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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lol... no shit.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Munchauzen]
#23425907 - 07/09/16 08:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
#23426033 - 07/09/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Munchauzen]
#23426318 - 07/09/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said: Its like if you were stranded in the desert, dying of thirst, and somebody rescued you, brought you inside, then proceeded to dump water on the floor instead of letting you drink it.
I'll take my 5 cent tax for you using my analogy Munch.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Inocuole]
#23426392 - 07/09/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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keep the change, ya filthy animal
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Munchauzen]
#23426398 - 07/09/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Heh.... I believe ya... but my tommy gun don't.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Inocuole]
#23426465 - 07/09/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: That is an atrocious fruiting chamber and it's no wonder you are seeing the results you are.
Read this
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542
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Munchauzen said: this is not a fruiting chamber, its a torture chamber
build an SGFC or monotub stat! and for the love of god, do not make an sgfc/monotub hybrid! choose one and follow the tek to the T.
and honestly I would personally make a monotub for these over an SGFC. itll be easier, and you have enough trays to fill it. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20356759#20356759 just ignore the magnet bullshit, and simply stuff the holes with polyfill. i wish there was a good, straight-forward monotub tek to link... i like this one but the magnetic things are overkill and really weigh down that tek for the purposes of sharing with a beginner.
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Munchauzen said: you are fucking wrong. you dont get to disagree with Pasty. why did you ask if you are going to reject the advice given to you by literally one of the top 3 cultivators on this entire site?! what were you expecting? us to tell you everything is fine and to stay the course? I simply can't understand why, if you are in a position where you have to ask for help, that you think you know the person answering you is wrong. Arrogance perhaps?
stfu, accept that you know jack shit, and listen to Pasty. That thing is garbage and I have no clue why you thought this piece of garbage would work. Standing water?! WTF man that is an open invitation to breed contaminates, not to mention is doesn't even function like you think it does.
the relation is your growing conditions suck. humidity is not nearly as important as FAE, which you have NONE of. FAE is #1. You completely lack FAE.
Water on the bottom does literally nothing for the mushrooms. Its like if you were stranded in the desert, dying of thirst, and somebody rescued you, brought you inside, then proceeded to dump water on the floor instead of letting you drink it.
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lol... no shit.
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lol... no shit.
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Munchauzen said: Its like if you were stranded in the desert, dying of thirst, and somebody rescued you, brought you inside, then proceeded to dump water on the floor instead of letting you drink it.
I'll take my 5 cent tax for you using my analogy Munch.
Thank you for the suggestions. I will try SGFC, I have 2 six side drilled and will try it tomorrow. Any suggestion on how the percentage of covering perlite with the kits? how many kits should I put in the chamber i have sent above for SGFC to be effective? I will try monotub tomorrow too, and see which one is better, any suggestion or common mistake on monotube or SGFC would be really appretiated. I know where I suck
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23426958 - 07/09/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mono's are better for trays IMO. Dries less easily and you can dial in the FAE to suit your needs perfectly.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23468384 - 07/23/16 06:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi all What should I do after flush? some say fill the kit with water and place it in refrigerator for 24 hours. other guys told me to leave it there and it will flush again. I don't know which one is better.
Are these happen in below because of the trich? Also please tell me what is the white spots in 2nd pic (i pointed to with arrows). they are white white, and color is not similar to the grey colored contams.




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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23468391 - 07/23/16 06:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Eww that shit looks dangerous I'd bin that moldy shit immediately before it does you any or more damage All those rotting shrooms as well its fucked
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23468395 - 07/23/16 06:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The white spots seem to be the mycelium recovering, mine do the same after a harvest. You should either give the tray a heavy misting or a dunk. Trays are easy to dunk so I would probably do that. Don't leave it for 24 hours though and no need to put in the fridge. 6 hours under water at room temp is enough.
Goodluck on your second flush.
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mrmazdarx9 said: Eww that shit looks dangerous I'd bin that moldy shit immediately before it does you any or more damage All those rotting shrooms as well its fucked
I don't see any molds on there. The shrooms look that way because they have completed their life cycle, they should have been harvested days ago. I agree, those should be removed but that sub can easily give another flush if there are no molds. The white spots do not seem like any mold I've seen. Trich and other green molds (the most common) look granular, not fluffy.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23468400 - 07/23/16 06:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Supalemonhaze said: The white spots seem to be the mycelium recovering, mine do the same after a harvest. You should either give the tray a heavy misting or a dunk. Trays are easy to dunk so I would probably do that. Don't leave it for 24 hours though and no need to put in the fridge. 6 hours under water at room temp is enough.
Goodluck on your second flush.
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mrmazdarx9 said: Eww that shit looks dangerous I'd bin that moldy shit immediately before it does you any or more damage All those rotting shrooms as well its fucked
I don't see any molds on there. The shrooms look that way because they have completed their life cycle, they should have been harvested days ago. I agree, those should be removed but that sub can easily give another flush if there are no molds. The white spots do not seem like any mold I've seen. Trich and other green molds (the most common) look granular, not fluffy.
That last pic looks mouldy as hell to me but then again I didn't think about spores dropping although mine where like a black purple colour not fluffy grey
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23468404 - 07/23/16 06:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looks like a beat up, spent sub to me. Bruising+recovering mycelium often looks a little strange. Those mushrooms definitely need to be removed though, all those fungal sugars that are left while the shroom is breaking down will probably aid in mold spore germination. I think that is why stumps left over after harvesting often go moldy.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23468798 - 07/23/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Supalemonhaze said: all those fungal sugars that are left while the shroom is breaking down will probably aid in mold spore germination.
I think that is why stumps left over after harvesting often go moldy.
Yes and yes, and why I'm a believer in twist and pull. In the wild they seem to like their mycelium slightly disturbed while picking. My scissor areas recover slower and my picking areas fruit faster and stronger, but those are different species, but still a psilocybe.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Adden]
#23468857 - 07/23/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Most of the trays I harvest via cutting end up getting green molds on the leftover stumps around the end of the 2nd flush. I notice that it only happens on the ones that remain soggy, the ones that dry up won't do that, sort of like a healed wound.
Yeah, pulling is my fave too but I still cut if the culture I'm growing tears the sub pretty bad.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23469154 - 07/23/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you let the sub sit for a few days after harvest without dunking or misting you dont get mold on stumps, at least I dont  Harvesting with scissors is faster than twist and pull IMO, yeah I leave some behind but I dont "have to" clean the fruits afterwards.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: spacechildo]
#23469179 - 07/23/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just use the scissors to snip off the stem butt immediately after I pull it. I personally find it way easier, but what works is what works.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23471058 - 07/24/16 12:06 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't clean my fruits when fresh, peat is super annoying and all it does is get your shrooms all smudged up. If you dehydrate them first, it just flakes off pretty easily. Much faster than cleaning them when fresh.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23474815 - 07/25/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hello Thank you all for help. I have changed my torture chambers to monotub. but I don't know how to gain high humidity in them. should I spray water to the walls of monotub from inside? Here are pictures of the two kits which are in fruiting chamber on the top. the lower two fruiting chambers seem to have high humidity inside as the walls are watery and smoggy / fogy.


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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23474836 - 07/25/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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oh dude... those trays are horrific. sorry man, they just look really gross.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23474844 - 07/25/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This almost looks like what happened with my grow kit. My pins all formed on the sides and bottom, and I was told that was because those areas contained the best fruiting conditions due to my setup. I can't speak for the quality of this mycelium (mupetmower is far more qualified than I am), but as far as maintaining humidity goes, this is my understanding.
It's wise to wait for a second opinion on this, but from what I can see it seems like your substrate might be too dry on the top. The edges are collecting more moisture, so mushrooms are starting in those areas. If I had to guess, I would say mist the sub directly instead of the walls, and then fan it once or twice to start evaporation (which in turn should help create the appropriate RH).
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: r.lutece]
#23474898 - 07/25/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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i wouldnt say that about myself, but it clearly does have something wrong with it. whether its just a fuck ton of metabolites from lots of bacteria, or something else(which the myc itself looks kinda weird, too). but your are right, i believe, about side pins happening from a better micro-climate generated in those areas.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: mupetmower]
#23475153 - 07/25/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It looks bacterial but the yellowing seems to be from drying out. I reckon it will flush again. I would remove those shrooms though, once they start to break down and become all mushy, molds can hit pretty quickly.
Humidity in the chamber is not important. What's important is humidity at the substrate's level, which is impossible to calculate. With proper misting, humidity will not be a problem. Shrooms don't like a constant 90+ humidity anyway, it needs to fluctuate so evaporation can happen. Spraying the sides of the tub is useless, spray the substrate instead.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23475204 - 07/25/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: TheChief]
#23475210 - 07/25/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That is gross. I wouldn't eat those myself.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23475660 - 07/25/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I sprayed it, How mush should I spray? I buy casing layr for mushrooms from supply store. should I pasteurized it or sterilized?
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23475665 - 07/25/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That thing is riddled with pseudomonias. I would stop misting it and put it outside.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23477510 - 07/26/16 02:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, definitely bacterial but I think the yellow is from the surface drying out. It does make it look iffy but I think it has a chance for a 2nd flush. Putting it outside is a good idea though.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23491286 - 07/30/16 03:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you all for help. I have done as suggested. I always use agar media for my jars. but sometimes I get little white spots in the jar. It looks like there are hundreds of dots of mycelium without trying to colonizing at all.
I don't know if the mycelium is dead already. or some kind of contam which I cannot see. It is very easy to see in second picture.

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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23491318 - 07/30/16 04:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is that after a shake? It seems like the mycelium is trying to recover.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23491368 - 07/30/16 05:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Supalemonhaze said: Is that after a shake? It seems like the mycelium is trying to recover.
No, It's not. I have faced this kind of situation many times. I also waited 2 weeks in some cases to see any development or recovery but nothing.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23491373 - 07/30/16 05:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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What was it inoculated with? Spore syringe? If you are getting those spots all around your jar, far from your inoculation, it will always be a contam.
How long do you sterilize for? I also see a burst corn in pic 1, do you get a lot of those?
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23491429 - 07/30/16 05:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I use Agar Media for inoculation. And pressure cook for 90 min. Just a few burst corn in every jar.
Here is how I prepare them. I first wash > then soak them for 24 hours> then boil for 10 min> then pour them into a metal basket so extra moisture is gone > then pour them into jars and let it cook for 90 min. after 90 minutes of being at 15 psi I turn it of. wait for it to cool down over night. I wash everything with alcohol and use one-time use gloves. bring an agar media from fridge and wash it with alcohol. wash the knife with alcohol. flame sterilize it and put it into the glove box to cool down. i make sure the tip of the knife don't touch anything. then while it is cooling down. I open the pressure cooker and put the jars into the glovebox.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23491447 - 07/30/16 06:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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You should be flaming the tool between every inoculation. The only time I let my scalpel cool is before I start a session because I flame the scalpel half way up the handle instead of PCing it, so the rest of the handle gets hot. I will re-flame the blade when it's time to do a transfer and again when it's time for another.
But apart from that, I don't see anything in your method which explains this contam. You could (and should) use 2hr cycles though, both to see if that is your vector and to avoid any possible ones in the future. 1.5hrs is like the minimum for a grain sterilization cycle, I never go below 2hrs personally.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23494564 - 07/31/16 04:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you for help. I will try 2+ hr pressure cooking.
These are some pics of my new fruiting chamber. I am trying monotube, The mushrooms which I am pointing to in pictures seems to be dying. all other mushrooms from same kit grow very very slowly. sometimes i think they are not growing at all. other pins from same kit looks like not growing too. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.



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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23495017 - 07/31/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wanna know where like 65% of noobs are getting "mono-tube" from.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Inocuole]
#23495333 - 07/31/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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right?!?!?!
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: mupetmower]
#23495407 - 07/31/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Edge mushrooms are just fine
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: dodmtdolsd]
#23495497 - 07/31/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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edge shrooms are because noobs think humidity is way more important than air exchange, air exchange seems to scare noobs they think air is dirty and going to contaminate their grow, even though fresh air is the number one thing to keep a grow from contaminating.
that's been repeated for a long time but noobs like to do feel the bern level research and only find the shittiest sources.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: bodhisatta]
#23495634 - 07/31/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Does my monotub lack FAE? Air conditioner is on most of the time and it is blowing next to them.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23495665 - 07/31/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23495668 - 07/31/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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registdewer said: Does my monotub lack FAE? Air conditioner is on most of the time and it is blowing next to them.

If that is tape over the holes then yes they are lacking FAE.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23500570 - 08/02/16 01:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, I hope that tape has some holes in it at least. Those poor things would be suffocating in there.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23500699 - 08/02/16 05:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you all for suggestion. I am about to replace the tape. Unfortunately I cannot source polyfil, But hopefully looking to find some replacement.
picture #1: White Face Mask. Surgical Disposable. it has three layers.
picture #2: Blue Surgical Mask. same as above with 3 layers.
picture #3: Surgical head cover. the green one which is a fabric/tissue very similar to the thin blue layer of surgical mask. thin layer.
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Please advice. Thanks,
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23500923 - 08/02/16 07:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is it a good Idea to cover the lower holes with 3M tape and the top holes with face mask?
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23501131 - 08/02/16 08:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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tear open a pillow or a stuffed animal. that's Polyfil.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: mupetmower]
#23501440 - 08/02/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Talkin about using a face mask to cover monotub holes....
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Inocuole]
#23501613 - 08/02/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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gotta keep it sterile you know! Why else you think we buy sterilite tubs?
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: spacechildo]
#23508183 - 08/04/16 02:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: gotta keep it sterile you know! Why else you think we buy sterilite tubs?
Keep monotube sterile? how? I thought it is in open air and there is no way of keeping it sterile. I'm an amu but as I know there is no way of sterilizing the fruiting part of job.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23508494 - 08/04/16 06:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
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spacechildo said: gotta keep it sterile you know! Why else you think we buy sterilite tubs?
Keep monotube sterile? how? I thought it is in open air and there is no way of keeping it sterile. I'm an amu but as I know there is no way of sterilizing the fruiting part of job.
He was joking
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23509104 - 08/04/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh really?
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Inocuole]
#23509232 - 08/04/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
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Quote:
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Oh really?
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Munchauzen]
#23510153 - 08/04/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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To be fair, the title is misleading.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Adden]
#23657711 - 09/19/16 04:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I know. I cannot post on the amu q&a thread. And I dont like creating new threads for each of my questions. So sorry if tittle is not about my future questions. Please help. they seem like burned. the room temp is 25-26 C humidity is high. fresh air is good.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23657769 - 09/19/16 05:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bacterial as hell.. lot of blotching going on there. What are you doing to those poor mushrooms..?
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Inocuole]
#23657838 - 09/19/16 05:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23658093 - 09/19/16 08:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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registdewer said: I know. I cannot post on the amu q&a thread. And I dont like creating new threads for each of my questions. So sorry if tittle is not about my future questions. Please help. they seem like burned. the room temp is 25-26 C humidity is high. fresh air is good.

Yowtch.
That hurts my stomach looking at it.
If I had to guess, you're misting the fuck out of them, and then allowing the humidity to stay too high, which doesn't let the fresh air evaporate water. They sit there wet as fuck probably, and blotch eats them up.
Edit: In fact I'm sure that's what you're doing. Look how those caps are sinking in on themselves. Telltale sign of overmisting/too much moisture for far too long.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Mushierage]
#23658490 - 09/19/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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OP you deleted your pics. now i cant help you out cause i have no clue whats going on!!
so id say toss and try again.
but them shroooms are 'rotting'. let them breathe brother. hard to tell from the pic but them feet look way fuzzy sooo... no. fresh air not good. you need more fresh air. less humidity.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: mushboy]
#23658624 - 09/19/16 12:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Honestly I would personally just harvest them, wash them off a bit, and toss them in the dehydrator. At this point letting them go any longer is going to be counterproductive IMO.
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