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Adden

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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23468798 - 07/23/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Supalemonhaze said: all those fungal sugars that are left while the shroom is breaking down will probably aid in mold spore germination.
I think that is why stumps left over after harvesting often go moldy.
Yes and yes, and why I'm a believer in twist and pull. In the wild they seem to like their mycelium slightly disturbed while picking. My scissor areas recover slower and my picking areas fruit faster and stronger, but those are different species, but still a psilocybe.
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Adden]
#23468857 - 07/23/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Most of the trays I harvest via cutting end up getting green molds on the leftover stumps around the end of the 2nd flush. I notice that it only happens on the ones that remain soggy, the ones that dry up won't do that, sort of like a healed wound.
Yeah, pulling is my fave too but I still cut if the culture I'm growing tears the sub pretty bad.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23469154 - 07/23/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you let the sub sit for a few days after harvest without dunking or misting you dont get mold on stumps, at least I dont  Harvesting with scissors is faster than twist and pull IMO, yeah I leave some behind but I dont "have to" clean the fruits afterwards.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: spacechildo]
#23469179 - 07/23/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just use the scissors to snip off the stem butt immediately after I pull it. I personally find it way easier, but what works is what works.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23471058 - 07/24/16 12:06 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't clean my fruits when fresh, peat is super annoying and all it does is get your shrooms all smudged up. If you dehydrate them first, it just flakes off pretty easily. Much faster than cleaning them when fresh.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23474815 - 07/25/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hello Thank you all for help. I have changed my torture chambers to monotub. but I don't know how to gain high humidity in them. should I spray water to the walls of monotub from inside? Here are pictures of the two kits which are in fruiting chamber on the top. the lower two fruiting chambers seem to have high humidity inside as the walls are watery and smoggy / fogy.


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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23474836 - 07/25/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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oh dude... those trays are horrific. sorry man, they just look really gross.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23474844 - 07/25/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This almost looks like what happened with my grow kit. My pins all formed on the sides and bottom, and I was told that was because those areas contained the best fruiting conditions due to my setup. I can't speak for the quality of this mycelium (mupetmower is far more qualified than I am), but as far as maintaining humidity goes, this is my understanding.
It's wise to wait for a second opinion on this, but from what I can see it seems like your substrate might be too dry on the top. The edges are collecting more moisture, so mushrooms are starting in those areas. If I had to guess, I would say mist the sub directly instead of the walls, and then fan it once or twice to start evaporation (which in turn should help create the appropriate RH).
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: r.lutece]
#23474898 - 07/25/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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i wouldnt say that about myself, but it clearly does have something wrong with it. whether its just a fuck ton of metabolites from lots of bacteria, or something else(which the myc itself looks kinda weird, too). but your are right, i believe, about side pins happening from a better micro-climate generated in those areas.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: mupetmower]
#23475153 - 07/25/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It looks bacterial but the yellowing seems to be from drying out. I reckon it will flush again. I would remove those shrooms though, once they start to break down and become all mushy, molds can hit pretty quickly.
Humidity in the chamber is not important. What's important is humidity at the substrate's level, which is impossible to calculate. With proper misting, humidity will not be a problem. Shrooms don't like a constant 90+ humidity anyway, it needs to fluctuate so evaporation can happen. Spraying the sides of the tub is useless, spray the substrate instead.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23475204 - 07/25/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: TheChief]
#23475210 - 07/25/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That is gross. I wouldn't eat those myself.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23475660 - 07/25/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I sprayed it, How mush should I spray? I buy casing layr for mushrooms from supply store. should I pasteurized it or sterilized?
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23475665 - 07/25/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That thing is riddled with pseudomonias. I would stop misting it and put it outside.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23477510 - 07/26/16 02:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, definitely bacterial but I think the yellow is from the surface drying out. It does make it look iffy but I think it has a chance for a 2nd flush. Putting it outside is a good idea though.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23491286 - 07/30/16 03:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you all for help. I have done as suggested. I always use agar media for my jars. but sometimes I get little white spots in the jar. It looks like there are hundreds of dots of mycelium without trying to colonizing at all.
I don't know if the mycelium is dead already. or some kind of contam which I cannot see. It is very easy to see in second picture.

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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23491318 - 07/30/16 04:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is that after a shake? It seems like the mycelium is trying to recover.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23491368 - 07/30/16 05:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Supalemonhaze said: Is that after a shake? It seems like the mycelium is trying to recover.
No, It's not. I have faced this kind of situation many times. I also waited 2 weeks in some cases to see any development or recovery but nothing.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23491373 - 07/30/16 05:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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What was it inoculated with? Spore syringe? If you are getting those spots all around your jar, far from your inoculation, it will always be a contam.
How long do you sterilize for? I also see a burst corn in pic 1, do you get a lot of those?
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23491429 - 07/30/16 05:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I use Agar Media for inoculation. And pressure cook for 90 min. Just a few burst corn in every jar.
Here is how I prepare them. I first wash > then soak them for 24 hours> then boil for 10 min> then pour them into a metal basket so extra moisture is gone > then pour them into jars and let it cook for 90 min. after 90 minutes of being at 15 psi I turn it of. wait for it to cool down over night. I wash everything with alcohol and use one-time use gloves. bring an agar media from fridge and wash it with alcohol. wash the knife with alcohol. flame sterilize it and put it into the glove box to cool down. i make sure the tip of the knife don't touch anything. then while it is cooling down. I open the pressure cooker and put the jars into the glovebox.
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