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Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits
#23425799 - 07/09/16 07:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hello everyone I ended up having 20+ grow kits which I made all myself. some by syringe and some by agar media.
all the kits grow. B+ I used mixed pop corn + ray bean + wheat All the mushrooms are growing from edge of the kit. some of them have mushrooms which are growing in mid parts of the kits. but the rate is very low.
another problem which I always have is the when they start to grow (start pinning), they are lots of them. but somehow 80% of the little mushrooms just ignore to grow any larger and remain little. I have showed them with red arrow in photos picture 1
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the last picture is showing the only kit out of 20+ kits where mushrooms are growing from all parts of the kit. but as you can see it is still growing more from edge parts. but i guess the other problem (80% of them just forget to grow bigger) will remain.
Please advice.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23425805 - 07/09/16 07:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The small mushrooms that won't grow are aborts. They are essentially dead. The reason things are pinning at the sides is because your conditions are poor on top, so they pin in the edge where a nice micro climate is formed. You need to dial your fruiting conditions in better. Based on the appearance of the fruits I am going to say things in there are dry. Pics and details of your fruiting chamber would be good.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23425827 - 07/09/16 07:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Here is a picture for a fruiting chamber I have filled it with water at the bottom
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23425833 - 07/09/16 07:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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registdewer said: Here is a picture for a fruiting chamber I have filled it with water at the bottom

That is an atrocious fruiting chamber and it's no wonder you are seeing the results you are.
Read this
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23425836 - 07/09/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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registdewer said: Here is a picture for a fruiting chamber I have filled it with water at the bottom

this is not a fruiting chamber, its a torture chamber
build an SGFC or monotub stat! and for the love of god, do not make an sgfc/monotub hybrid! choose one and follow the tek to the T.
and honestly I would personally make a monotub for these over an SGFC. itll be easier, and you have enough trays to fill it. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20356759#20356759 just ignore the magnet bullshit, and simply stuff the holes with polyfill. i wish there was a good, straight-forward monotub tek to link... i like this one but the magnetic things are overkill and really weigh down that tek for the purposes of sharing with a beginner.
Edited by Munchauzen (07/09/16 07:57 AM)
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23425867 - 07/09/16 08:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said:
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registdewer said: Here is a picture for a fruiting chamber I have filled it with water at the bottom

That is an atrocious fruiting chamber and it's no wonder you are seeing the results you are.
Read this
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542
Thanks for the respond. I disagree because the hygrometer is showing 80% and temp is 23 also I fan them 2 times daily. The chamber i sent photo may look dry and it is dry. but I have 6 more chambers which high humidity, it has water on every side of the chamber which is showing humidity is high. and I did not understand your point. if it is happening just because of lack of humidity, the what is the relation between dry chamber and growing at the sides?
Thanks
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23425869 - 07/09/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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registdewer said:
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Pastywhyte said:
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registdewer said: Here is a picture for a fruiting chamber I have filled it with water at the bottom

That is an atrocious fruiting chamber and it's no wonder you are seeing the results you are.
Read this
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542
Thanks for the respond. I disagree because the hygrometer is showing 80% and temp is 23 also I fan them 2 times daily. The chamber i sent photo may look dry and it is dry. but I have 6 more chambers which high humidity, it has water on every side of the chamber which is showing humidity is high. and I did not understand your point. if it is happening just because of lack of humidity, the what is the relation between dry chamber and growing at the sides?
Thanks
you are fucking wrong. you dont get to disagree with Pasty. why did you ask if you are going to reject the advice given to you by literally one of the top 3 cultivators on this entire site?! what were you expecting? us to tell you everything is fine and to stay the course? I simply can't understand why, if you are in a position where you have to ask for help, that you think you know the person answering you is wrong. Arrogance perhaps?
stfu, accept that you know jack shit, and listen to Pasty. That thing is garbage and I have no clue why you thought this piece of garbage would work. Standing water?! WTF man that is an open invitation to breed contaminates, not to mention is doesn't even function like you think it does.
the relation is your growing conditions suck. humidity is not nearly as important as FAE, which you have NONE of. FAE is #1. You completely lack FAE.
Water on the bottom does literally nothing for the mushrooms. Its like if you were stranded in the desert, dying of thirst, and somebody rescued you, brought you inside, then proceeded to dump water on the floor instead of letting you drink it.
Edited by Munchauzen (07/09/16 08:48 AM)
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Munchauzen]
#23425901 - 07/09/16 08:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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lol... no shit.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Munchauzen]
#23425907 - 07/09/16 08:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
#23426033 - 07/09/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Munchauzen]
#23426318 - 07/09/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said: Its like if you were stranded in the desert, dying of thirst, and somebody rescued you, brought you inside, then proceeded to dump water on the floor instead of letting you drink it.
I'll take my 5 cent tax for you using my analogy Munch.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Inocuole]
#23426392 - 07/09/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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keep the change, ya filthy animal
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Munchauzen]
#23426398 - 07/09/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Heh.... I believe ya... but my tommy gun don't.
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registdewer
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Inocuole]
#23426465 - 07/09/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: That is an atrocious fruiting chamber and it's no wonder you are seeing the results you are.
Read this
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542
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Munchauzen said: this is not a fruiting chamber, its a torture chamber
build an SGFC or monotub stat! and for the love of god, do not make an sgfc/monotub hybrid! choose one and follow the tek to the T.
and honestly I would personally make a monotub for these over an SGFC. itll be easier, and you have enough trays to fill it. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20356759#20356759 just ignore the magnet bullshit, and simply stuff the holes with polyfill. i wish there was a good, straight-forward monotub tek to link... i like this one but the magnetic things are overkill and really weigh down that tek for the purposes of sharing with a beginner.
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Munchauzen said: you are fucking wrong. you dont get to disagree with Pasty. why did you ask if you are going to reject the advice given to you by literally one of the top 3 cultivators on this entire site?! what were you expecting? us to tell you everything is fine and to stay the course? I simply can't understand why, if you are in a position where you have to ask for help, that you think you know the person answering you is wrong. Arrogance perhaps?
stfu, accept that you know jack shit, and listen to Pasty. That thing is garbage and I have no clue why you thought this piece of garbage would work. Standing water?! WTF man that is an open invitation to breed contaminates, not to mention is doesn't even function like you think it does.
the relation is your growing conditions suck. humidity is not nearly as important as FAE, which you have NONE of. FAE is #1. You completely lack FAE.
Water on the bottom does literally nothing for the mushrooms. Its like if you were stranded in the desert, dying of thirst, and somebody rescued you, brought you inside, then proceeded to dump water on the floor instead of letting you drink it.
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FreeWorldOrder said:

lol... no shit.
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FreeWorldOrder said:

lol... no shit.
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Inocuole said:
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Munchauzen said: Its like if you were stranded in the desert, dying of thirst, and somebody rescued you, brought you inside, then proceeded to dump water on the floor instead of letting you drink it.
I'll take my 5 cent tax for you using my analogy Munch.
Thank you for the suggestions. I will try SGFC, I have 2 six side drilled and will try it tomorrow. Any suggestion on how the percentage of covering perlite with the kits? how many kits should I put in the chamber i have sent above for SGFC to be effective? I will try monotub tomorrow too, and see which one is better, any suggestion or common mistake on monotube or SGFC would be really appretiated. I know where I suck
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23426958 - 07/09/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mono's are better for trays IMO. Dries less easily and you can dial in the FAE to suit your needs perfectly.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23468384 - 07/23/16 06:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi all What should I do after flush? some say fill the kit with water and place it in refrigerator for 24 hours. other guys told me to leave it there and it will flush again. I don't know which one is better.
Are these happen in below because of the trich? Also please tell me what is the white spots in 2nd pic (i pointed to with arrows). they are white white, and color is not similar to the grey colored contams.




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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: registdewer]
#23468391 - 07/23/16 06:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Eww that shit looks dangerous I'd bin that moldy shit immediately before it does you any or more damage All those rotting shrooms as well its fucked
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23468395 - 07/23/16 06:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The white spots seem to be the mycelium recovering, mine do the same after a harvest. You should either give the tray a heavy misting or a dunk. Trays are easy to dunk so I would probably do that. Don't leave it for 24 hours though and no need to put in the fridge. 6 hours under water at room temp is enough.
Goodluck on your second flush.
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mrmazdarx9 said: Eww that shit looks dangerous I'd bin that moldy shit immediately before it does you any or more damage All those rotting shrooms as well its fucked
I don't see any molds on there. The shrooms look that way because they have completed their life cycle, they should have been harvested days ago. I agree, those should be removed but that sub can easily give another flush if there are no molds. The white spots do not seem like any mold I've seen. Trich and other green molds (the most common) look granular, not fluffy.
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23468400 - 07/23/16 06:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Supalemonhaze said: The white spots seem to be the mycelium recovering, mine do the same after a harvest. You should either give the tray a heavy misting or a dunk. Trays are easy to dunk so I would probably do that. Don't leave it for 24 hours though and no need to put in the fridge. 6 hours under water at room temp is enough.
Goodluck on your second flush.
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mrmazdarx9 said: Eww that shit looks dangerous I'd bin that moldy shit immediately before it does you any or more damage All those rotting shrooms as well its fucked
I don't see any molds on there. The shrooms look that way because they have completed their life cycle, they should have been harvested days ago. I agree, those should be removed but that sub can easily give another flush if there are no molds. The white spots do not seem like any mold I've seen. Trich and other green molds (the most common) look granular, not fluffy.
That last pic looks mouldy as hell to me but then again I didn't think about spores dropping although mine where like a black purple colour not fluffy grey
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Re: Mushrooms grow from edge of the kits [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23468404 - 07/23/16 06:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looks like a beat up, spent sub to me. Bruising+recovering mycelium often looks a little strange. Those mushrooms definitely need to be removed though, all those fungal sugars that are left while the shroom is breaking down will probably aid in mold spore germination. I think that is why stumps left over after harvesting often go moldy.
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