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quinn
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Re: Totally signing out of culture and going it alone [Re: beforethedawn]
#23428580 - 07/10/16 07:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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i am in agreement with some of the posters such as RGV but i'm in a similar position to OP and get the self reliance thing..
im also an Aussie and plan on going solo for a while in a van.. i wanna unearth some alternative cultures! i hope i dont die.. we should hang out
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Re: Totally signing out of culture and going it alone [Re: quinn]
#23428598 - 07/10/16 07:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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quinn said: i am in agreement with some of the posters such as RGV but i'm in a similar position to OP and get the self reliance thing..
im also an Aussie and plan on going solo for a while in a van.. i wanna unearth some alternative cultures! i hope i dont die.. we should hang out 
This doesn't sound like going it alone.
Self reliance is not possible when one is relying on being in a van.
Recently I got tired of one such squatter parked in the pullout of the road for a couple of weeks just "hanging out". By morning he was on down the road, by 5 miles at least. If he just keeps hanging out at that pullout, I can make him move again, it was easy the first time and will be even easier the second.
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Re: Totally signing out of culture and going it alone [Re: LunarEclipse]
#23428682 - 07/10/16 08:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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DividedQuantum said: I didn't mean to exclude the possibility of plasticity, you're absolutely right -- the brain is exceedingly plastic. Perhaps my language was a little strong, but the fact is that most of the environmental wiring of the brain takes place in the first three years of life. Whatever changes take place after that are bound to exist within that system to some degree. Many people spend their entire lives trying to undo that wiring, and most of them are unsuccessful.
Isn't culture a bit more subtle than the "environmental wiring" in the first three years? Do kids even get out and experience culture by that age? Maybe their early experience is dependent on their parents treatment than a general cultural education?
It seems that more radical development goes on between birth and the age of three than in the entire rest of one's life. Much of this is environmental accident, and much of it is the effect of the society's shared mental contents -- in other words, culture. Certainly culture continues to make an impact after this age, but it shapes a person most meaningfully at that early stage. Children soak up the world like a sponge, and mostly that world is made up of cultural elements. Moreover, a parent's treatment is heavily steeped in the dominant culture. That is principally what the child picks up on -- language, behavior and the method of raising the child.
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quinn
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Re: Totally signing out of culture and going it alone [Re: LunarEclipse]
#23428703 - 07/10/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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what did you do to the poor man? 
i dont see why driving a van makes me any less self reliant? do i have to get rid of my clothes as well? what if i steal the van?
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Re: Totally signing out of culture and going it alone [Re: quinn]
#23428725 - 07/10/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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quinn said: what did you do to the poor man? 
i dont see why driving a van makes me any less self reliant? do i have to get rid of my clothes as well? what if i steal the van?
I just called the proper authorities who paid him a visit and told him he'd have to move his RV. Dude literally parks in the middle of the pull out where the kayak boats come and go and people use for launching drift boats as well. And there he sits, 2 weeks go by and there he sits.
The law says someone can park in these spots for 24 hours max, not 2 weeks straight. It's a tourist place and those folks bringing their RV to spend a day can do that. Not some dude just literally hanging out.
Don't worry, he'll be fine. State Cops are the nice ones.
As to your query, any time you are relying on your vehicle for living quarters you are relying on finding a place to park it and relying on gasoline and keeping it running. Or someone could rip off your van with all your shit in it, then what? You really will be screwed.
I lived out of a back pack for 3 months. Try that sometime.
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Edited by LunarEclipse (07/10/16 08:59 AM)
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Re: Totally signing out of culture and going it alone [Re: quinn]
#23428754 - 07/10/16 09:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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quinn said: what did you do to the poor man? 
i dont see why driving a van makes me any less self reliant? do i have to get rid of my clothes as well? what if i steal the van?
Looney drives a candy van.
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Re: Totally signing out of culture and going it alone [Re: DividedQuantum]
#23428792 - 07/10/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can say with certainty that my life from birth to age 3 was not a good one. Not a good one. Not a good one.
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Re: Totally signing out of culture and going it alone [Re: LunarEclipse]
#23428875 - 07/10/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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fair.. well there are plenty of free camping spots round here, also, the alternative to paying gas is rent 
im sure i will try some solo backpacking on my journeys but i dont want to get too hardcore survivalist about it like you or icelander might.. as i said, i dont want to die.
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Re: Totally signing out of culture and going it alone [Re: quinn]
#23428986 - 07/10/16 10:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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quinn said: fair.. well there are plenty of free camping spots round here, also, the alternative to paying gas is rent 
im sure i will try some solo backpacking on my journeys but i dont want to get too hardcore survivalist about it like you or icelander might.. as i said, i dont want to die. 
noticed he pulled into a real pull out but without his being 5 ft from the river. a few of these guys play the hope no cop figures out they've been moving from spot to spot but basically are squatting. there's a campground with a shitter nearby and water so if they can afford a 5th wheel maybe that's the spot to hang out.
personally i love living out of a backpack but am too old now my hips would become sore. but tent living, in third world conditions, is a luxury. privacy plus mosquito protection plus mobility. gotta keep moving lots to see. with all the equipment now it's not all that hardcore. but, getting rid of excess shit is key. no you can't carry a hardcover book, maybe one small paperback. and a pen.
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Re: Totally signing out of culture and going it alone [Re: LunarEclipse]
#23429562 - 07/10/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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so actually 'evil' human culture is not the only factor that the self feels impinges upon it(self) as revealed by this thread there is also old age, and it's pains, and infirmaties and fear of death. those are a little trickier to escape while maintaining love of self and identification with 'our' body it would seem
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Re: Totally signing out of culture and going it alone [Re: LunarEclipse]
#23429596 - 07/10/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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even Gladis Kravits (from I dream of Jeanie) didn't go that far.
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Re: Totally signing out of culture and going it alone [Re: laughingdog]
#23429635 - 07/10/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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liquidlounge said:
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quinn said: what did you do to the poor man? 
i dont see why driving a van makes me any less self reliant? do i have to get rid of my clothes as well? what if i steal the van?
Looney drives a candy van.
BEEP BEEP
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laughingdog said: so actually 'evil' human culture is not the only factor that the self feels impinges upon it(self) as revealed by this thread there is also old age, and it's pains, and infirmaties and fear of death. those are a little trickier to escape while maintaining love of self and identification with 'our' body it would seem
another lecturer. do you fear death? i don't maybe that's the difference between you and me, you project your fear on me, as if I care?
I don't, it would seem.
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Re: Totally signing out of culture and going it alone [Re: liquidlounge]
#23429647 - 07/10/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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liquidlounge said:
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quinn said: what did you do to the poor man? 
i dont see why driving a van makes me any less self reliant? do i have to get rid of my clothes as well? what if i steal the van?
Looney drives a candy van.
BEEP BEEP
Look, Looney is not a term of endearment, it's insulting, and he's really not looking for your attention, so please find somebody else to harass. This is your first and only warning.
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Re: Totally signing out of culture and going it alone [Re: CosmicJoke]
#23429655 - 07/10/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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DividedQuantum beat you to it. He did harass me on PM's but I don't cry about it, he also loves this game.
You let him free roam this forum but when someone ridicules him back it's suddenly offensive.
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Re: Totally signing out of culture and going it alone [Re: liquidlounge]
#23429683 - 07/10/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Your PM to me just now about being on welfare, was that actually harassment?
Because I answered it as if it was serious. If it was harassment, fuck you.
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Re: Totally signing out of culture and going it alone [Re: viktor] 1
#23429745 - 07/10/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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No, I'm thinking about doing it myself, so don't worry Vic.
But I won't say Looney anymore, it's kind of old now and used up. That said I don't want to see him harass me ever again either. He is good at hiding and then stinging, pay attention mods.
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Re: Totally signing out of culture and going it alone [Re: liquidlounge]
#23429776 - 07/10/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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liquidlounge said: No, I'm thinking about doing it myself, so don't worry Vic.
But I won't say Looney anymore, it's kind of old now and used up. That said I don't want to see him harass me ever again either. He is good at hiding and then stinging, pay attention mods.
How am I hiding for calling you out for your very real harassment? I think anyone paying attention can see how you try to attack DQ for no reason other than being a mod.
You may not want me to "harass you ever again" well do the right thing then and leave me the fuck alone and quit harassing me. Pick on me, pay the consequence, it's go time so pay attention LL.
"it's old and used up calling someone a name"
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE
Damn that felt good.
Still, it's getting old being a dick, I'm done now.
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Edited by LunarEclipse (07/10/16 04:31 PM)
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Re: Totally signing out of culture and going it alone [Re: LunarEclipse]
#23430046 - 07/10/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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laughingdog said: .... old age, and it's pains, and infirmaties ...
another lecturer. do you fear death? i don't maybe that's the difference between you and me, you project your fear on me, as if I care? I don't, it would seem.
you're the one who complained about his hip and being too old for camping -- so obviously 'society' isn't the only 'thing' limiting a persons 'freedom' or style.
who said everything in the list applied to you anyway?
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Re: Totally signing out of culture and going it alone [Re: LunarEclipse] 2
#23430047 - 07/10/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Forget signing out and living like a mountain man. At this point it's just a game and sooner than later the Human race will exterminate itself anyway. Might as well keep playing, or commit suicide if you REALLY want out. The lunatics are running the asylum politically, economically, environmentally, religiously, and socially. It won't stop because the people in charge aren't willing to make the sacrifices necessary for long term survival though they do have their deep underground bunkers for themselves and their family as a halfhearted try. At this point, nothing short of an open and outright miracle from either God almighty or a truly god like extraterrestrial alien race will stop the madness before it's too late.
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Re: Totally signing out of culture and going it alone [Re: Eywa_devotee]
#23430108 - 07/10/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well said.
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