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ant5
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Help me identifi these shrooms
#23425627 - 07/09/16 04:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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what they might be?found in finland
 maybe Panaeolus olivaceus or Panaeolus cinctulus any idea ?
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velho


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Re: Help me identifi these shrooms [Re: ant5]
#23425638 - 07/09/16 04:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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They look like Panaeolina foenisecii, but spore print will tell you more. Place the caps (gills down) to paper or aluminium foil and wait for a day. If the spore print is brown, they're likely Panaeolina foenisecii or something inactive. If the print is black, you might have something else like Panaeolus cinctulus or some other possibly active species.
Edited by velho (07/09/16 04:26 AM)
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ant5
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Re: Help me identifi these shrooms [Re: velho]
#23425754 - 07/09/16 06:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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this is result after few hours seems black to me or what ?
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ant5
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Re: Help me identifi these shrooms [Re: ant5]
#23425764 - 07/09/16 06:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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anyway i ate some well see if something happens
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velho


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Re: Help me identifi these shrooms [Re: ant5]
#23425785 - 07/09/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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ant5 said: anyway i ate some well see if something happens 
No, don't do stupid things like that. Never eat unidentified mushrooms, it could be hazardous and your last meal.
The spore print is clearly brown to my eyes, compare to the writing on that chocolate wrapping above the print or draw a line with a black marker next to the spore print.
You're lucky that these are Panaeolina genus (thought I'm not a trusted identifier and it's a photo anyway), so there are no known toxic species in the genus. And even if these were active Panaeolus, you'd probably need maybe 30+ specimens to feel actually anything.
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ant5
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Re: Help me identifi these shrooms [Re: velho]
#23425791 - 07/09/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just only tried what these taste like ye its not black more like brownish throwed away
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velho


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Re: Help me identifi these shrooms [Re: ant5]
#23425812 - 07/09/16 07:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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ant5 said: I just only tried what these taste like ye its not black more like brownish throwed away 
I think tasting is fine, even on toxic species. I just don't recommend swallowing unidentified things. Your tastebuds are in your mouth, not in stomach.
And with Panaeolina/Panaeolus, I recommend printing all of your finds since there could be black spored ones amongst them and when hunting active Panaeolus mushrooms, you don't want the brown spored ones. Good luck for the future hunts!
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Re: Help me identifi these shrooms [Re: velho]
#23425838 - 07/09/16 07:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It depends on the bioavailability of individual toxins via different routes of administration. Chemicals will absorb through the mucous membranes in the mouth. Of course, how long they're in there and how much is in there is also a factor.
I wouldn't recommend keeping large amounts in your mouth and chewing it around for ages (I know velho didn't mean this, either, so I'm not trying to misrepresent what he meant).
I've read other people on here say it's fine to taste a small amount and then spit it out, for (certain?) toxic mushrooms. I'm a bit sketchy on specifics, though.
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ant5
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Re: Help me identifi these shrooms [Re: velho]
#23425894 - 07/09/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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il go tomorrow look around my hometown reason is because ive been fucking depressed for like 4 (Feels like 10) years im only 20 ive only tried shrooms once and after that my depression was gone for some time psyhedelics really helps.
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Re: Help me identifi these shrooms [Re: ant5]
#23426036 - 07/09/16 09:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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ok slow down. yes they will help imo but dont forget that for me anyway doing mushrooms alot of kharma comes out in a big burp, are you ready for that big burp? hold on tight young person because ditching 20 years of kharma in one burp can be intense. im not saying dont do it, but hold on tight go long strong or go home but remember hold on tight, also do not do this in social setting if you are trying to kick that kharma out do it alone imo in controlled solo enviro. and stay there do NOT go outside during this phases because if you dirty it up and trigger something it may disrupt the burp. keep me updated on your enlightenment grasshopper you may have something to teach us after this. EDIT: while the argument could be made that social interaction while tripping could give a young person a new outlook and confidence (ie, laughing at someone who might have intimidated you previously while tripping could embolden us) primarily I support the angle that once you've tripped solo and kicked out a large chunk of that kharma, then you could eat some more the next day which will be a more mellow trip since you already poisoned, then look at the world though your new eyes, the chances of having a negative social trip while purging that initial kharma is too risky, unless you know some attractive person who is dying to shower you with love while tripping or some authoritative figure allowing you to berate them otherwise i would say do it alone and next time you go outside it will be your little secret. little by little your confidence will grow back. remember when we were kids we had all the confidence in the world. we learned to second guess ourselves which means we can unlearn that.
Edited by pan_hed (07/09/16 09:56 AM)
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