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Kurze
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dosage advice for my friend
#23424733 - 07/08/16 08:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey everyone. Just wanted to see what the general opinion is for a first time dose of shrooms would be. My first time, they took forever to kick in. So I ended up eating quite a few more than I shouldve.
I've done acide before so it didn't bother me, I actually quite enjoyed it. However, my friend wants to try them. He doesn't do any of that stuff, and usually only smokes a bit of weed when we all hang out.
I was thinking maybe 1.5 to 2g to start, and either taking another smaller dose a few hours later if theres no trip, or just saying the hell with it and trying a higher dose in a few months.
There will be 3 of us tripping together, all laid back, and have no issues with trust or any other issues between us that may cause a bad trip. We are planning on doing it in a cabin, away from people that may not appreciate someone freaking out if theres a bad trip.
Any thoughts? or is 2g a good place to start for him? Any input would be appreciated. Thanks
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Re: dosage advice for my friend [Re: Kurze]
#23424764 - 07/08/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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will they be dried mushrooms? if so, break them all into small pieces and mix together. this is a good way to even out any potential mushroom to mushroom potency variability.
search the forums here for various methods of ingestion (eating, tea, lemon tek, etc).
2.0 can be a real solid dose. anything in the 1.5-2.0 range would be good imo.
is he a pretty relaxed guy ordinarily? teach him the importance of set and setting, and of not fighting the experience
good luck
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Re: dosage advice for my friend [Re: LuzaW]
#23424784 - 07/08/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I trying to decide if I am going to grind them to put into gel caps, or to make tea out of them. Either way I'm going to grind them so I can make them all even doses. I haven't had a chance to eat any of the ones I have yet, so I'm not sure on potency. Yeah hes a pretty easy going guy. The 3 of us have been best friends for almost 15 years at this point, so we will all be looking out for each other, and not trying to mess with each other. He used to be a bit depressed, that was maybe 8 years ago now, but hes in school, holding down a job, being social etc. I don't really see him having any issues. I have actually been debating whether or not I should just stay sober as a sitter for them both. I had talked a few of my friends down from bad trips over the years, and calmed them down a bit. The last time a bad trip happened it was made worse by my friends mom who decided to pop by for a visit while he was already freaking out. she mentioned an ambulance and started lecturing him haha. just made it worse
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Re: dosage advice for my friend [Re: Kurze]
#23425315 - 07/09/16 12:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Set and setting would be the most important guide to the dose. That said 2g is a good beginner dose in a good set and setting. Take a read through the link in my sig for LSD but applies to Shrooms as well.
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Re: dosage advice for my friend [Re: Jeff Vader]
#23425770 - 07/09/16 06:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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is your friend on any Rx meds for depression or anything else?
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Re: dosage advice for my friend [Re: Kurze]
#23426425 - 07/09/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'd say 2.5 grams but I see absolutely no reason to take any less than 2 grams (especially 1.5) unless you're someone who really doesn't think you can handle a true full on psychedelic journey.
If they take a long time to kick in that's not a good sign. That doesn't usually mean you took too little it almost always indicates that your product was of weaker quality unless you somehow had a really full stomach. Weak shrooms suck so I would see no reason to "take more later" if the ones before it didn't work. At that point for me it would be a waste of time but whatever suits you.
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Quote:
AuroraBorealis88 said: Weak shrooms suck so I would see no reason to "take more later" if the ones before it didn't work.
Such a shit idea to advise a first timer to do this. They have no metric to measure against, should the come up be longer than average they might end up taking 3-4g.
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Re: dosage advice for my friend [Re: Jeff Vader]
#23427786 - 07/09/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ya I actually almost always say that redosing is VERY unwise unless you're experienced so when I see people recommending to maybe "take more" your first time seems absurd. Even for an experienced tripper redosing mushrooms can be quite weird and crazy.
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Kurze
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yeah hes pretty relaxed, no meds or anything.I told him to come on here and read some trips reports so he can kinda make a decision based on info on here.I don't think I'll let him go over 2 either way. I think I'm going to go with tea for dosing. Ill do him up a cup with 2 g worth of tea in it, and just tell him to drink half, and slowly keep drinking till he starts feeling the come up. Might be easier that way. I dont find I get any stomach upset with tea either, so that might be easier for his first time.
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Re: dosage advice for my friend [Re: Kurze]
#23429370 - 07/10/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Trip reports suck for the most part. Words seem to fail a lot of the time. Have him watch some videos and things by McKenna.
Also research the effects
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Psilocin
http://www.thegooddrugsguide.com/mushrooms/psychedelic.htm
Also maybe have him read the differences between LSD and mushrooms. I feel like differentiating between different tryptamines can really give someone a good view of the character of each drug. Because it's not the effects of shrooms you want to be prepared for it's the character.
I feel like reading the differences between acid and shrooms can tell you more about them then just reading the effects of psilocybin on its own.
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Re: dosage advice for my friend [Re: Kurze]
#23432206 - 07/11/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Id recommend taking a gram or two to gauge its potency before giving him a dose.
That way u can give him a pretty accurate first timer dosage thats not too much and not too little.
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