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Will7401


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Pins Splitting
#23422641 - 07/08/16 07:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey everyone. You've helped me get this far and I thank you. What is causing the stems to split like this? The caps so far dont look dry. The mono is dialed in like a boss so I'm not misting and fanning. I searched and found info about dry caps but couldnt find anything on stem conditions. Thanks.
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: Pins Splitting [Re: Will7401]
#23422650 - 07/08/16 07:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re-upload. The pic isn't showing.
Stems splitting is kinda wierd, usually with dry environments the caps are the first to split. Verticullum does come to mind though but we need pics in order to confirm.
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Pastywhyte
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That's not verticillium. Splitting like that is often the result of drastic fluctuations in humidity.
You need to dial in for more FAE, and that will lower the overall RH, which should help. Plus it will keep your fruits from getting lanky which yours are on track for.
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Will7401


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Thanks Pasty. You've been a champ without knowing it. Okay, so I've got my monos set up based on Frank's tek. The poly is tight in the botom holes, rather loose in the top. What adjustments do I make from here? My other ones are five days behind this one so if I can correct this now...What causes the fluctuation in humidity like that? I'm in a basement with RH between 70-80% I'm not able to check Surface humidity.
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Will7401


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Are you seeing the pic now Supa?
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Pins Splitting [Re: Will7401]
#23422742 - 07/08/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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With your basement being that humid you can get away with a little more passive FAE. Loosen the bottom holes a smidge to start. Kill any fans in the room and try to keep tubs a bit away from any vents. I have seen this where the AC or heat kicks on and drastically and suddenly drops the RH. Fluctuations in RH are a good thing providing they are not too extreme.
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Supalemonhaze
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Quote:
Pastywhyte said: Splitting like that
Splitting like what? I still can't see the pic.
Edit:
Nevermind, got it. Yeah, that's pretty cracked, not what I was expecting. Seems like it's super wet and humid in there, see how the caps are growing fuzz? Needs more FAE.
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Will7401


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Okay, I can easily make those adjustments. Would you recommend doing so in the others as well before the pinning starts, which should be any day now? I also have two minis following your tek. I'm not casing them just to get a feel for the difference between casing and not. They were put in fruiting conditions three days ago, i.e. open the top row of staggered holes on the ends and polyfil in the single bottom on each side. And one more question. If I have the mono dialed in with the condensation on the sides like it should be and I'm not misting and fanning, would opening it up to check on them periodically cause the fluctuation in RH like that? The only air flow is the fan facing the wall away from the tubs. Yes, I am excited abut them and yes, I look at them every day. This is my first successful bin after 8 losses due to contam so I am loving watching them grow but am opening the lid to look at them. Once it is dialed in is it a leave it alone until they are ready to harvest type thing? This is my first time at this stage. I give credit where it is due Pasty. This has all come about because of failed MS inoculation and overcoming agar apprehension early on by following your mini round tek. Like a good newb I thought agar was beyond my capabilities but your tek simplified it and I have been able to achieve much success with that. So thanks man. The tic tac toe Tiger Drop as well.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Pins Splitting [Re: Will7401]
#23423037 - 07/08/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think it's okay to open every other day to have a look, I doubt that's the issue. Personally I think that the real issue is having too much sustained humidity which then exacerbates any drops. The excess humidity is also evidenced by the mycelium growing on your caps, etc.
Monos are fine as set and forget, you just need to have things well dialed in. More FAE and being aware of conditions that may cause sudden drastic drops are key to dialing things in. So kill fans and keep tubs away from vents will go a ways in achieving that.
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Supalemonhaze
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A little extra FAE is always better than too little. When not sure, I prefer to overshoot it a little and tighten the holes from there later on. Contams in general have an easier time with high CO2 and as long as you mist accordingly if you need to, extra FAE will not hinder pinsets, unlike lack of FAE.
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Will7401


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Thank you both very much for sharing your experience. I'm going to make the adjustments now and research more on FAE and its role in mycology. I am going to pass this along to anyone that may read this thread in the future. I love learning new stuff, especially mycology related information so here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verticillium
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Edited by Will7401 (07/08/16 11:12 AM)
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