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Re: I say "I love you" to every car I drive past [Re: Thanatos10]
    #23434840 - 07/12/16 12:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, right...

If beauty doesn't matter to you I'm going to suggest extreme doses of antidepressants or some manner of an attempt at brain regeneration.

Life is overwhelming. If you do not find it so, you are deep in pathology.


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Re: I say "I love you" to every car I drive past [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23434853 - 07/12/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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beforethedawn said:
Yeah, right...

If beauty doesn't matter to you I'm going to suggest extreme doses of antidepressants or some manner of an attempt at brain regeneration.

Life is overwhelming. If you do not find it so, you are deep in pathology.




Or not. Again you are speaking from your own view point and trying to project it as objective fact. Life is what you make of it, beauty is subjective. But I would say it isn't important. Because in the end we all die, and he world still turns.

I don't get hung up in fleeting concepts like beauty.


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Re: I say "I love you" to every car I drive past [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23439390 - 07/13/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Giftin out love missiles with the sky sockets of your eyes, sometimes it takes some extreme measures to know what we need to realize.

But hey, you know sometimes gentle methods work too. Not everyone needs a deep peering into their soul from a new person. And some people do. All I'm sayin is, use your judgment on that one, a little brevity helps clear the air too, y'know? :peace:


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Re: I say "I love you" to every car I drive past [Re: Chakra Shock]
    #23440391 - 07/14/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

yep!

great post


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Re: I say "I love you" to every car I drive past [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 2
    #23441464 - 07/14/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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RJ Tubs 202 said:
Saying "I love you" to every car you drive past is easy.

Saying "I love you" to the people in every car is more difficult.



I would add that I feel genuinely having the capacity to love each and every one of those people is nigh on impossible.


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Re: I say [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23442956 - 07/15/16 05:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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beforethedawn said:
And I look at them like this when I say it -

So what are you guys doing to change the world, man?





You posting about expressing love in words, but with a straight face seems to suggest that you have awareness that the rigid physical body is the prison bar hindering your expressiveness of truth.

I think changing the world (at least for oneself which is ultimately all), involves gliding through the bars with a whispful spirit that knows ultimately that the other side (of the bars) is already the place where they truly are.

Once that is achieved, the rigid avatar is a lesser concern and becomes a lot more pliable in life and cooperative to all and oneself.


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Re: I say [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23444675 - 07/15/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Beautiful words Duncan! :heart:


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Re: I say "I love you" to every car I drive past [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23454269 - 07/18/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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RJ Tubs 202 said:
Saying "I love you" to every car you drive past is easy.

Saying "I love you" to the people in every car is more difficult.



I would add that I feel genuinely having the capacity to love each and every one of those people is nigh on impossible.




"Love" is such a loaded word and means so many things.

(Sanskrit has 96 words for "love"; ancient Persian has 80)

How about feeling compassion for all of humanity?

I used to scoff at the idea I could feel compassion for everyone.

Even if we accept we can feel compassion for everyone, we often don't want to.


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Re: I say "I love you" to every car I drive past [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23454343 - 07/18/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Witnessing the interconnection of life forms, as a seamless whole, makes it difficult to exclude compassion from any one part. How can one not have compassion for their self?


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Re: I say "I love you" to every car I drive past [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #23454416 - 07/18/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Our shame and self-loathing inhibit our ability to be compassionate to our self.



“Nothing in the world is more distasteful to a man than to take the path that leads to himself.”

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Re: I say "I love you" to every car I drive past [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 2
    #23454807 - 07/19/16 01:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

A valid observation

Generally my compassion is tempered by the knowledge of impermanence of pain, the omnipotence of worldly ignorance / corruption, and the experience in permanence of self.
In other words... anyone living in this world is severely flawed, all pain one experiences is limited to this life, and this life is one of many.

So there seems little reason to be overly sentimental in compassion "The wise grieve neither for the living, nor the dead". One's compassion towards their children is not diminished by dishing out discipline as needed, there must be a degree of emotional callous / detachment to handle this world.

Compassion to me, is goodwill
Yet while I may have spiritual goodwill towards any being, innately
That might not extend to goodwill in this lifetime
For say, Ted Bundy
Or more practically, for someone who has crossed me

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Re: I say "I love you" to every car I drive past [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #23455527 - 07/19/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nice post, Repertoire. :thumbup:


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Re: I say "I love you" to every car I drive past [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23463718 - 07/21/16 07:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Repertoire89 said:

Compassion to me, is goodwill
Yet while I may have spiritual goodwill towards any being, innately
That might not extend to goodwill in this lifetime
For say, Ted Bundy
Or more practically, for someone who has crossed me





Yes, compassion to me is to wish others goodwill, and offer my loving-kindness.

To have compassion for those who do great harm is challenging but possible, as to withhold
one's goodwill towards some people only closes our own heart, and makes these people into
our enemy, instead of connecting with their humanity.

If we only have compassion for certain people, we live in a constant state of judgment,
always in the business of deciding who gets our love and who doesn't.

I don't want that job.


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Re: I say "I love you" to every car I drive past [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #23463986 - 07/21/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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RJ Tubs 202 said:
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Repertoire89 said:

Compassion to me, is goodwill
Yet while I may have spiritual goodwill towards any being, innately
That might not extend to goodwill in this lifetime
For say, Ted Bundy
Or more practically, for someone who has crossed me





Yes, compassion to me is to wish others goodwill, and offer my loving-kindness.

To have compassion for those who do great harm is challenging but possible, as to withhold
one's goodwill towards some people only closes our own heart, and makes these people into
our enemy, instead of connecting with their humanity.

If we only have compassion for certain people, we live in a constant state of judgment,
always in the business of deciding who gets our love and who doesn't.

I don't want that job.




Personally I have no problem discriminating between people
Old friends have become enemies, because they stole from me
If I caught one of them in my house again, I would have no problem ending their life

All matter is living and conscious, as far as I understand
We breathe and microorganisms die
We walk and crush plants beneath our feet
Our skin absorbs, our blood wrestles with viruses and infections
Our food is living: animals, plants and insects

This is just the nature of the world
I think there is release in accepting that

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Re: I say "I love you" to every car I drive past [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23466838 - 07/22/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That you would kill someone for stealing your possessions reflects your values.

Many people value material objects more than life. 

We create "enemies". We blame our anger on our enemies, but that's a cop out.

If your wife or child stole from you, would you kill them?


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Re: I say "I love you" to every car I drive past [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23468097 - 07/23/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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RJ Tubs 202 said:
That you would kill someone for stealing your possessions reflects your values.

Many people value material objects more than life. 

We create "enemies". We blame our anger on our enemies, but that's a cop out.

If your wife or child stole from you, would you kill them?




Anger is a transitory emotion, there's no need to blame anything for it
I just experience it and let it past, moderate my actions

If I catch someone breaking into my house, they've forfeited their life by threatening mine
That's not a problem for me, just a situation to be dealt with

They'll be fine in a spiritual sense
If I was a materialist and thought they would cease to exist upon dying :shrug: that would be their problem

Honestly I don't see the hangup
Regarding family, there's other ways to deal with that :lol:
A roommate stole weed from me so I confronted him and took it back, no big deal
He missed some sessions


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Re: I say "I love you" to every car I drive past [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23471166 - 07/24/16 01:02 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Repertoire89 said:

Anger is a transitory emotion, there's no need to blame anything for it

I just experience it and let it past, moderate my actions





You must not follow the news. You don't notice the anger based violence around the world?

I "blame" nothing. Anger has it's roots. Ask someone whose loved one was killed by road rage.

"Transitory" wouldn't be part of their reply. Adult anger is just like a child's temper tantrum.


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Re: I say "I love you" to every car I drive past [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23471178 - 07/24/16 01:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I think you're confusing the options one has available  (violence)

With the actions one takes  (ethics)

Anger exists for a reason, to be used for your benefit


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Re: I say "I love you" to every car I drive past [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23471202 - 07/24/16 01:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's a common notion that anger is a catalyst for growth and change.

Many people believe that anger fuels progress (for example angry protesters).

Anger is an option.          Anger, at it's core, is pure ego.

Although it wants to hide, nothing reveals our ego like anger. Anger is our teacher.


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Re: I say "I love you" to every car I drive past [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23471206 - 07/24/16 01:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

This is all assuming you find the idea of ego compelling

The ego is what it is

Anger is a catalyst for keeping bears from eating you


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