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Enlightened 2
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I've been resonating with my higher power all night and it's felt amazing. Its crazy to think of how so much of society is enslaved; mentally and emotionally. It's not right to make others miserable because of ones own unhappiness. I don't have these chains on my mind and soul. I am lucky and grateful be an enlightened one.
Once achieving enlightenment, one only wants to pull all his/her loved ones to the same freedom and enlightened state. I wish I could take the chains off my loved ones soul's and mind's.
My higher power is a consciousness. An all knowing, all wise and complete being that thirsts for nothing. It doesn't look at ones self and have to question questions of existence or purpose.
I wish to take the chains off my loved ones soul's so badly. I want nothing more than to free them and it hurts so fucking bad I can't do it for them.
I achieved Brahman state once again. I wish to free the ones I love. I do not thirst for nothing but only the wellbeing of my fellow men and women. I am absolutely and without question; I am the light unto myself. I wish my fellow would stops looking out and sees that as well; that they are thy light unto thyself.
Hell is not a place or destination, it's a thought or state of mind. Hate can not be beneficial regardless whichever end you are on. Thy can not wish Ill will towards another without unknowingly wishing ill will against thyself. It is impossible to have hate for another when one have love for thyself. It's undeniably impossible. Hate and negative feelings have nothing to do with the other person, they signs and symptoms of unhappiness with oneself.
If one is truly happy with oneself, he realizes that hate will do nothing but enslave himself. Thy love thyself, and thy higher power. I have love for each and every one of y'all.
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That resonates so deep, i like your mindstate right now
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Re: Enlightened [Re: Mike4aco] 1
#23421789 - 07/07/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you guys. If you read this and vibe with what my Light/Higher power shared with me, don't hesitate to reach out or express yourself. My good vibes go out to shroomery nation tonight.
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This trip has truly spoken to me; if you are holding onto hate, sorrow, turmoil and/or negative feelings, let them go. It feels so much better to be free of any negativity and become one with all. If someone lashes out against you, don't be so quick to lash back; these people are acting like this for a reason; These people are hurting. Be your brothers keeper. One love
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sounds like it's already fading so fast you can't rind the center of it
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Great read man. I wish I was surrounded by people like you in my life. I want a bunch of enlightened friends instead of scummy cunts who try and fuck me over. I guess they're just acquaintances.
Tripping taught me that emotions are nothing but a supplement to our consciousness. Don't let emotions rule you. Instead have love for your consciousness- not your emotions and you will value and live life in a very different way.
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Re: Enlightened [Re: YeOlde]
#23422490 - 07/08/16 06:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you for sharing, beautiful words.
Don't be bothered too much about "freeing" your beloved ones. We are all the same one, dreaming this play, "your" role is this understanding, "theirs" is another one, for now. We must have both "sides" to be able to experience, otherwise, we will all be enlightened, and know nothing about it.
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maybe they will find the path to tbeir own enlightenment if you let yours shine so they can see it, and not try to show them or tell them how to get it
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Last night was much needed; truly soul cleansing and eye opening. I agree with you guys completely YeOlde, Zack and Mike; I can't fight my loved ones spiritual and emotional battles for them, only radiate my light upon them and surround them with my enlightened state of concousness.
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Many of the awakened never seek the full potential of the God mind. only an ego can want anything, and the only reason we desire to help people is to pride ourselves and subconsciously accept superiority over those with less knowledge than us. There is nothing great or bad about enlightenment, it is where true balance ensues but it is misconstrued as happiness and love, when it is strength and acceptance. we all get exactly whay we deserve, not by fate, but by our own actions. God is often referred to as "the desire for human connection" but this is false, God is only truly embraced through self reliance. We need not to help those who choose to live under the illusion, for it is our own choice to do so and our own responsibility to answer our questions. By choosing to show someone the truth allows dependence to seem as a necessity, and often does more destruction than creation. God is truly the destination that all of us are trying to reach, but it is much simpler to provide the truth and allow one to decide for themselves rather than to express our opinions about truth and put our efforts towards awakening people. It is natural order for those who seek the truth to find it and those who are dependent of others to be subjected to a hard life. Everybody truly gets what they deserve
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bigdoodie said: Many of the awakened never seek the full potential of the God mind. only an ego can want anything, and the only reason we desire to help people is to pride ourselves and subconsciously accept superiority over those with less knowledge than us. There is nothing great or bad about enlightenment, it is where true balance ensues but it is misconstrued as happiness and love, when it is strength and acceptance. we all get exactly whay we deserve, not by fate, but by our own actions. God is often referred to as "the desire for human connection" but this is false, God is only truly embraced through self reliance. We need not to help those who choose to live under the illusion, for it is our own choice to do so and our own responsibility to answer our questions. By choosing to show someone the truth allows dependence to seem as a necessity, and often does more destruction than creation. God is truly the destination that all of us are trying to reach, but it is much simpler to provide the truth and allow one to decide for themselves rather than to express our opinions about truth and put our efforts towards awakening people. It is natural order for those who seek the truth to find it and those who are dependent of others to be subjected to a hard life. Everybody truly gets what they deserve
found the yogi.
but seriously great message.
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SyzygisticSoul said: I wish to take the chains off my loved ones soul's so badly. I want nothing more than to free them and it hurts so fucking bad I can't do it for them.
I achieved Brahman state once again.
Just gonna throw this out there since "enlightenment" is my focus Enlightened people don't give a shit. Enlightenment is not a state. Its not something that comes and goes
You may be referring to unity consciousness, but certainly not enlightenment
If you're interested at all check out Jed Mckenna's spiritual enlightenment series to get started. I think the first chapter pretty much covers what I've just said
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Re: Enlightened [Re: JForce]
#23430541 - 07/10/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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In a conversation with an aged brahmin, the Buddha once explained concisely what is meant by a Buddha, an enlightened one:
“What has to be known, that I have known; What has to be abandoned, that I have abandoned; What has to be developed, that I have developed; Therefore, O brahmin, I am a Buddha.”
These are not only three characteristics of a Buddha; they are also the three objectives we aim at in following the Buddha’s teaching. We follow the Dhamma to fully know what should be known; to abandon what should be abandoned; and to develop what should be developed. These are the goals of the Buddhist path and the three accomplishments that mark the attainment of enlightenment.
What does it mean to say that our task is “to know that which should be known”? What we have to know, what we have to understand, is that which is closest to ourselves, what we usually refer to as our self. What we usually refer to as our self is this complex of body and mind. For most of us, from the time we are born right up to the time of our death, our minds are oriented outwardly, engaged in a tireless quest for pleasure and sensual gratification, for the enhancement of our self, for the confirmation of our sense of ego-identity. Very few people stop and turn around to consider the question, “What is it that I call my self? What is it that I refer to as my self?” And yet, if you reflect for just a moment, you will see that this is the most important question we can ask.
So our task in following the Buddha’s teaching is to investigate, to examine, that which we refer to as “I,” as “my self,” as “what I am.” We usually take these terms to refer to some kind of persisting entity, an ego, a substantial self possessing a real identity, but what the Buddha asks us to do is to see what we find when we look for the referents of the terms, “I,” “me,” and “my self.” When we look, when we investigate, what we find are just components of bodily and mental experience, which the Buddha has classified into five aggregates: physical form, feeling, perception, volitional formations, and consciousness. These are called the “five aggregates of clinging” because they are the things that we ordinarily cling to as, “This is mine, this is what I am, this is my true self.” Our task in following the Buddha’s teaching is to understand the true nature of these five aggregates. We thereby come to know that which constitutes our identity. From birth, through adulthood, through old age, to death — this whole process of life is just a procession of the five aggregates.
The second project the Buddha’s teaching sets for us is “to abandon that which should be abandoned.” What should be abandoned are the defilements. The Buddha uses the word kilesas as an umbrella term that includes all the mental states that cause suffering and unhappiness in our lives. The unwholesome mental states are called kilesas. The word can be translated afflictions because they bring suffering. It can also be translated defilements because they defile and corrupt the mind. The Buddha has analyzed the nature of the defilements and has beautifully explained how they can all be traced to the three “root defilements” of greed, hatred, and delusion. Our task in following the Buddha’s teaching, in practicing the Dhamma, is to overcome, to eliminate, to abandon the defilements of greed and hatred that give rise to many other branch defilements. But greed and hatred spring ultimately from delusion or ignorance. And thus to eliminate all the defilements, we have to eliminate ignorance.
Ignorance is what covers up the five aggregates, that which should be known. Thus the way to overcome ignorance is through the first task — “knowing that which should be known.” When we know that which should be known, ignorance falls away — and then greed, hatred, and all the other defilements fall away. It isn’t possible, however, to accomplish this merely by having the desire to do so. We can’t expect simply to think, “I want to know that which should be known,” and immediately it is known. That’s why the whole practice of Buddhism is a process of walking a path. The great gift that the Buddha offers the world is not simply a profound philosophy, not simply a very penetrating psychology, but a practical, systematic, step-by-step path that we can cultivate in sequence.
To cultivate the path means to “develop that which should be developed.” That is the third project the Buddha speaks of in his four-line verse: “That which should be developed, that I have developed.” So what the Buddha has developed is what we have to develop. The path is structured in such a way that it proceeds not suddenly, not abruptly, but in a gradual step-by-step manner to help us climb the ladder to the ultimate freedom of enlightenment. One has to begin by keeping the coarser expression of the defilements under control. One does this by observing the precepts, the Five Precepts or the Eight Precepts. These control the coarser expressions of the defilements, the way the defilements break out or erupt in the form of unwholesome actions.
We next have to cultivate concentration. When we try to collect the mind, we gain insight into the workings of our own minds. By understanding the workings of our own minds, we’re gradually changing the shape of the mind. First, we are beginning to scrape away the soil in which the unwholesome roots have been lodged. The process isn’t a quick or easy one, but requires gradual, persistent, and dedicated effort. As one practices consistently, the mind will eventually settle into firm concentration. It acquires the skills needed to remain consistently settled upon an object, without wavering, and this provides the opportunity for wisdom to arise.
Wisdom is the third quality that needs to be developed. Wisdom comes through examination, through investigation. When one has developed a strongly concentrated mind, one uses that mind to investigate the five aggregates. As one investigates, one directly sees into their real nature, into “the true characteristics of phenomena.” Generally, one first sees the arising and falling away of the five aggregates. That is, one sees their impermanence. One sees that because they’re impermanent, they’re unsatisfactory. There’s nothing worth clinging to in them. And because they’re impermanent and unsatisfactory, one cannot identify with any of them as a truly existing self. This is the empty or self-less nature of the five aggregates. This marks the arising of true insight wisdom.
With insight-wisdom, one cuts deeper and deeper into the root of ignorance until one comes to fully understand the nature of the five aggregates. When one does so, one can then say that one has “known that which should be known.” And by fully knowing that which should be known, the defilements “that should be abandoned have been abandoned,” and the path “that should be developed has been developed.” One then realizes that which should be realized, the extinction of suffering right here and now. And, in the Buddha’s own words, that is the mark of an Enlightened One.
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I was referring to unity concousness by stating that I had accomplished Brahman state again, not by saying I have achieved Enlightened state again. And I disagree an enlightened person does not look at a family member or friend that is struggling with pain and/or spiritual confusion and just "not give a shit" about them or what they are going through.
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bigdoodie said: Many of the awakened never seek the full potential of the God mind. only an ego can want anything, and the only reason we desire to help people is to pride ourselves and subconsciously accept superiority over those with less knowledge than us. There is nothing great or bad about enlightenment, it is where true balance ensues but it is misconstrued as happiness and love, when it is strength and acceptance.
Where are you getting this information??? Just cause a person is enlightened does not mean her/she does not have an ego. And my desire to see my closest friends and family not hurt physically or spiritually has to do with me wanting to feel superior or having pride in myself over them on a subconscious level??? Makes no sense to me. But I digress and choose not to argue over something I know inside my soul.
Edited by SyzygisticSoul (07/10/16 11:11 PM)
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SyzygisticSoul said: I am lucky and grateful be an enlightened one.
I am not trying to be rude at all, please understand that, I sincerely mean that.
But if one is enlightened, they do not know they are so. Those that are enlightened, often never think they are, and are always working to better themselves.
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Re: Enlightened [Re: Lucis]
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Lol, alright I'm not enlightened. Sorry for the post guys.
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doesn't this go into a special forum?
maybe "spirituality and mysticism"
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Lol get off my sack redgreenvines.
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SyzygisticSoul said: Lol get off my sack redgreenvines.
so you found some clarity on drugs, and now you want recognition. get off my sack is kinda cute. you should be recognized for writing it. All the same, what else would you like?
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SyzygisticSoul said: Lol get off my sack redgreenvines.
so you found some clarity on drugs, and now you want recognition. get off my sack is kinda cute. you should be recognized for writing it. All the same, what else would you like?
I did find clarity on a drug. I desire no recognition, I only desire for you to get off my enlightened sack and thread lol. Go troll somewhere else.
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This is a place I feel like I should be able to express myself and my experiences. If you don't agree with my beliefs or experiences, you don't have to; that's the beauty of people coming from all walks of life. So.... With that being said, I'll continue with my way of life. Don't care for my vibe? You don't have to, just go the opposite way. Sorry if I offended you with anything that I've said, Never my intention; just being me. Hope you have a good day redgreenvines
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So the whole enlightened thing is over now then I guess. Psychedelic bubbles of consciousness are real enough while they last, but when they deflate to sloppy sacks you should let go of them.
the forum to fluff up empty sacks is spirituality.
here is a great forum to share experiences - but if you post your transformation story you have to tolerate someone who may find the claim of enlightenment (which is a pretty big claim) an unhealthy residue from tripping.
I would like to temper that residual effect, and I promise I do not go to the spirituality forum.
I agree that during the high, there are times that something like enlightenment is at play if the person is oriented to healing and beauty, and lucky as well with set and setting.
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Alot of people mistake the glow for a false sense of enlightenment. What is it to be truly enlightened anyways? Is it an actual "awakening" or is it just a matter of perception to reality and rearranging our thought processes to how we see most fit for us?
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Na, that while enlightened "thing" is not over. I truly do see the world and situations different. It was an eye opening experience and I feel grateful for the clarity it has given me. When a person says they are enlightened, I don't feel like it means the person has to sale off everything that he owns, ditch his identity and plan to spend the rest of his days in a Buddhist temple. I also dont feel that it means the person no longer feels pain, sorrow or anger from time to time... Only that it doesn't have the hold on them like it once did; after all we all are still human. I do believe it makes a person more balanced, grounded and adds a sense of clarity in life. It wasn't a claim, and I wasn't trying to win popularity on this forum lol only wanted to let my light shine and share some thoughts and an experience. I will not continue to insist that I am enlightened because it is not important for others to know or believe. I still have a personality, an ego, a sense of humor as well as a life only more clarity to go along with it. All that being said, you don't have to agree because wheather you do or do not, it makes no difference to me.
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SyzygisticSoul said: In a conversation with an aged brahmin, the Buddha once explained concisely what is meant by a Buddha, an enlightened one:
“What has to be known, that I have known; What has to be abandoned, that I have abandoned; What has to be developed, that I have developed; Therefore, O brahmin, I am a Buddha.”
These are not only three characteristics of a Buddha; they are also the three objectives we aim at in following the Buddha’s teaching. We follow the Dhamma to fully know what should be known; to abandon what should be abandoned; and to develop what should be developed. These are the goals of the Buddhist path and the three accomplishments that mark the attainment of enlightenment.
What does it mean to say that our task is “to know that which should be known”? What we have to know, what we have to understand, is that which is closest to ourselves, what we usually refer to as our self. What we usually refer to as our self is this complex of body and mind. For most of us, from the time we are born right up to the time of our death, our minds are oriented outwardly, engaged in a tireless quest for pleasure and sensual gratification, for the enhancement of our self, for the confirmation of our sense of ego-identity. Very few people stop and turn around to consider the question, “What is it that I call my self? What is it that I refer to as my self?” And yet, if you reflect for just a moment, you will see that this is the most important question we can ask.
So our task in following the Buddha’s teaching is to investigate, to examine, that which we refer to as “I,” as “my self,” as “what I am.” We usually take these terms to refer to some kind of persisting entity, an ego, a substantial self possessing a real identity, but what the Buddha asks us to do is to see what we find when we look for the referents of the terms, “I,” “me,” and “my self.” When we look, when we investigate, what we find are just components of bodily and mental experience, which the Buddha has classified into five aggregates: physical form, feeling, perception, volitional formations, and consciousness. These are called the “five aggregates of clinging” because they are the things that we ordinarily cling to as, “This is mine, this is what I am, this is my true self.” Our task in following the Buddha’s teaching is to understand the true nature of these five aggregates. We thereby come to know that which constitutes our identity. From birth, through adulthood, through old age, to death — this whole process of life is just a procession of the five aggregates.
The second project the Buddha’s teaching sets for us is “to abandon that which should be abandoned.” What should be abandoned are the defilements. The Buddha uses the word kilesas as an umbrella term that includes all the mental states that cause suffering and unhappiness in our lives. The unwholesome mental states are called kilesas. The word can be translated afflictions because they bring suffering. It can also be translated defilements because they defile and corrupt the mind. The Buddha has analyzed the nature of the defilements and has beautifully explained how they can all be traced to the three “root defilements” of greed, hatred, and delusion. Our task in following the Buddha’s teaching, in practicing the Dhamma, is to overcome, to eliminate, to abandon the defilements of greed and hatred that give rise to many other branch defilements. But greed and hatred spring ultimately from delusion or ignorance. And thus to eliminate all the defilements, we have to eliminate ignorance.
Ignorance is what covers up the five aggregates, that which should be known. Thus the way to overcome ignorance is through the first task — “knowing that which should be known.” When we know that which should be known, ignorance falls away — and then greed, hatred, and all the other defilements fall away. It isn’t possible, however, to accomplish this merely by having the desire to do so. We can’t expect simply to think, “I want to know that which should be known,” and immediately it is known. That’s why the whole practice of Buddhism is a process of walking a path. The great gift that the Buddha offers the world is not simply a profound philosophy, not simply a very penetrating psychology, but a practical, systematic, step-by-step path that we can cultivate in sequence.
To cultivate the path means to “develop that which should be developed.” That is the third project the Buddha speaks of in his four-line verse: “That which should be developed, that I have developed.” So what the Buddha has developed is what we have to develop. The path is structured in such a way that it proceeds not suddenly, not abruptly, but in a gradual step-by-step manner to help us climb the ladder to the ultimate freedom of enlightenment. One has to begin by keeping the coarser expression of the defilements under control. One does this by observing the precepts, the Five Precepts or the Eight Precepts. These control the coarser expressions of the defilements, the way the defilements break out or erupt in the form of unwholesome actions.
We next have to cultivate concentration. When we try to collect the mind, we gain insight into the workings of our own minds. By understanding the workings of our own minds, we’re gradually changing the shape of the mind. First, we are beginning to scrape away the soil in which the unwholesome roots have been lodged. The process isn’t a quick or easy one, but requires gradual, persistent, and dedicated effort. As one practices consistently, the mind will eventually settle into firm concentration. It acquires the skills needed to remain consistently settled upon an object, without wavering, and this provides the opportunity for wisdom to arise.
Wisdom is the third quality that needs to be developed. Wisdom comes through examination, through investigation. When one has developed a strongly concentrated mind, one uses that mind to investigate the five aggregates. As one investigates, one directly sees into their real nature, into “the true characteristics of phenomena.” Generally, one first sees the arising and falling away of the five aggregates. That is, one sees their impermanence. One sees that because they’re impermanent, they’re unsatisfactory. There’s nothing worth clinging to in them. And because they’re impermanent and unsatisfactory, one cannot identify with any of them as a truly existing self. This is the empty or self-less nature of the five aggregates. This marks the arising of true insight wisdom.
With insight-wisdom, one cuts deeper and deeper into the root of ignorance until one comes to fully understand the nature of the five aggregates. When one does so, one can then say that one has “known that which should be known.” And by fully knowing that which should be known, the defilements “that should be abandoned have been abandoned,” and the path “that should be developed has been developed.” One then realizes that which should be realized, the extinction of suffering right here and now. And, in the Buddha’s own words, that is the mark of an Enlightened One.
Don't bother with the eighth fold path. It mostly a description of symptoms. Find out who you are and the symptoms will all take care of themselves. They have nothing to do with you anyways.
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Re: Enlightened [Re: JForce]
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There are many different pathsto enlightenment. For me, being able to recognize the differences all lead to the same spot is a big factor. I can believe what i want to believe and you can believe yours. In the end who is correct? Both of us are equally correct. If i believe eating mushrooms and taking lsd connect me to a higher power than i will be connected and be able to learn from them. I would do the same as syzergicsoul and share my findings. Not to make you believe as i do, but to allow people to see the changes that have been made and activated within myself. Then i would allow you to continue with your path, without saying you are wrong and i am right. There is not wrong and right, there is just isness
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believe whatever you want. Belief is the exact mechanism that walls reality out from you
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SonicTitan



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Re: Enlightened [Re: JForce]
#23436662 - 07/13/16 12:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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And that's what you believe man. It's all opinion. Humans need a belief of some kind be it science, religion, or hailing to a tree. We need something to base morality on. Without any sort of believe humans would probably be apathetic towards alot more.
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JForce
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"And that's what you believe man"
That's why shit gets paradoxical real quick
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pineninja
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Re: Enlightened [Re: Lucis]
#23436819 - 07/13/16 02:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fennario said:
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SyzygisticSoul said: I am lucky and grateful be an enlightened one.
I am not trying to be rude at all, please understand that, I sincerely mean that.
But if one is enlightened, they do not know they are so. Those that are enlightened, often never think they are, and are always working to better themselves.
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redgreenvines
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you could say in fuzzy terms that he is more enlightened than the average, i.e. a brighter shade of orange or whatever the bag was.
in that way I kind of agree, psychedelics function a bit like mind bleach.
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